1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ??

Thanks for the help. I have a 1993-1997 Chilton for all US & Canadian
(domestic) make & models, and it's just crap. Heater core is very
basic and I just can't believe that it's not in the book. The
instructions are there for the blower motor, but not for the heater
core.

Thanks.

==========================================================
On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:37:13 -0400, "Thomas Moats" <me.RemoveThis@me.net> wrote:

 >Cant believe that Chilton's does not give diagrams or at least instructions,
 >Haynes does. It comes out from the inside of the car.
 >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
 >news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
  >> I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
  >> Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
  >>
  >> Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
  >> hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
  >>
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

I have yet (in 30 years of doing this stuff) to see a heater core that gets
removed from the engine side.

--
Steve
=========


"X-Eliminator" <blablabla DeleteThis @aohell.com> wrote in message
news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
 > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
 > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
 >
 > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
 > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:45:47 UTC, "Steve Barker"
<railphotonut.TakeThisOut@not.hotmail.com> wrote:

 > I have yet (in 30 years of doing this stuff) to see a heater core that gets
 > removed from the engine side.

If I remember right, my 1979 LTD II came out from under the hood.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

The old Galaxy did and there are others.
"Steve Barker" <railphotonut.RemoveThis@not.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iyzoc.59187$u_4.23454@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
 > I have yet (in 30 years of doing this stuff) to see a heater core that gets
 > removed from the engine side.
 >
 > --
 > Steve
 > =========
 >
 >
 > "X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
 > news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
  > > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
  > > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
  > >
  > > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
  > > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

All early to late '70 full size Fords and Mercs had access to the
heatercore from under the hood. Replacing a core was a 15 min job. All
you had to do was disconnecting the heater hoses, remove four screws
and remove the access cover. I guess it was too easy of a job.

Steve Barker wrote:

 >I have yet (in 30 years of doing this stuff) to see a heater core that gets
 >removed from the engine side.
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

"X-Eliminator" <blablabla.DeleteThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
 > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
 > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
 >
 > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
 > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
===========
right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box. the
box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives you
just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull the
cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

"Scott M" <no.TakeThisOut@no.com> wrote in message
news:btkpc.10408$q_1.4300@twister.socal.rr.com...
 >
 > "X-Eliminator" <blablabla.TakeThisOut@aohell.com> wrote in message
 > news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
  > > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
  > > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
  > >
  > > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
  > > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
 > ===========
 > right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box. the
 > box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
 > book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
 > royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
 > behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives you
 > just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull the
 > cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
  > >
 >
 >
The real bitch is trying to lift up the dash when there is still the one bolt
attached on the engine side of the fire wall.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

Thanks --- thats the info that I was really looking for !!!

=====================================================
On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:24:39 GMT, "Scott M" <no DeleteThis @no.com> wrote:

 >
 >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla DeleteThis @aohell.com> wrote in message
 >news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
  >> I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
  >> Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
  >>
  >> Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
  >> hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
 >===========
 >right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box. the
 >box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
 >book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
 >royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
 >behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives you
 >just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull the
 >cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
  >>
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

"Thomas Moats" <me.TakeThisOut@me.net> wrote in message
news:QNqdnSNKsvrZmjvd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
 >
 > "Scott M" <no.TakeThisOut@no.com> wrote in message
 > news:btkpc.10408$q_1.4300@twister.socal.rr.com...
  > >
  > > "X-Eliminator" <blablabla.TakeThisOut@aohell.com> wrote in message
  > > news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
   > > > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
   > > > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
   > > >
   > > > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
   > > > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
  > > ===========
  > > right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box.
the
  > > box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
  > > book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
  > > royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
  > > behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives
you
  > > just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull
the
  > > cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 > The real bitch is trying to lift up the dash when there is still the one
bolt
 > attached on the engine side of the fire wall.
=============
Dont you mean the one holding the heater box? Ever do the mid 80's LTD II ?
Oh, now thats a fun heater core also. <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

"Scott M" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote in message
news:4wqpc.52886$BG1.15789@twister.socal.rr.com...
 >
 > "Thomas Moats" <me.RemoveThis@me.net> wrote in message
 > news:QNqdnSNKsvrZmjvd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
  > >
  > > "Scott M" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote in message
  > > news:btkpc.10408$q_1.4300@twister.socal.rr.com...
   > > >
   > > > "X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
   > > > > I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
   > > > > Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
   > > > >
   > > > > Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
   > > > > hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
   > > > ===========
   > > > right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box.
 > the
   > > > box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
   > > > book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
   > > > royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
   > > > behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives
 > you
   > > > just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull
 > the
   > > > cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > > The real bitch is trying to lift up the dash when there is still the one
 > bolt
  > > attached on the engine side of the fire wall.
 > =============
 > Dont you mean the one holding the heater box?

If it's not holding the heater box to the wall, why would it be a bitch, of
course that's the one. It's also the one not found the most and because of
mindless butchery the reason of many a broken box.

 >Ever do the mid 80's LTD II ?

Far more than you can imagine, been around long before the 80's.

 > Oh, now thats a fun heater core also.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:24:39 GMT, "Scott M" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:

 >
 >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
 >news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
  >> I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
  >> Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
  >>
  >> Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
  >> hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
 >===========
 >right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box. the
 >box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
 >book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
 >royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
 >behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives you
 >just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull the
 >cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
  >>
 >

What a pain in the ass. 5 hours of my time to replace a $26.99 heater
core. Actually you DO have to pull the dashboard back because it's the
only way to be able to maneuver the heater box around to get it away
from the firewall becaue the studs holding it forward are too long to
move the box unless you pull the dashboard back.

Obviously Ford designed the heater core box in such a way to promote
good assembly line efficiency, rather than considering the guy who has
to replace the heater core years down the road. What a bitch !!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

"X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
news:jt1ga0tsj95b7d5a1b5ho8j8r9chplc9h4@4ax.com...
 > On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:24:39 GMT, "Scott M" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla.RemoveThis@aohell.com> wrote in message
  > >news:mat4a0l26bk1nbj9m7iv9b5kittus8ap4g@4ax.com...
   > >> I need to R & R the heater core on a 1993 Crown Victoria, but my
   > >> Chilton book doesn't show a diagram or instructions.
   > >>
   > >> Can anyone tell me whether the heater core comes out from under the
   > >> hood, or has to be removed from inside behind the glove box ?
  > >===========
  > >right side under the dash. pull the glove box and you can see the box.
the
  > >box has to come out or at least drop way down the get the cover off. The
  > >book would tell you to pull the whole dash but you dont have to. It is a
  > >royal bitch when you havent done one before. The secret is a 2x4 wedged
  > >behind the right side of the dash after everything is loose. It gives you
  > >just enough room to remove or at least drop the box down so you can pull
the
  > >cover off the top. GOOD LUCK.
   > >>
  > >
 >
 > What a pain in the ass. 5 hours of my time to replace a $26.99 heater
 > core. Actually you DO have to pull the dashboard back because it's the
 > only way to be able to maneuver the heater box around to get it away
 > from the firewall becaue the studs holding it forward are too long to
 > move the box unless you pull the dashboard back.
 >
 > Obviously Ford designed the heater core box in such a way to promote
 > good assembly line efficiency, rather than considering the guy who has
 > to replace the heater core years down the road. What a bitch !!!
=============
You got it? cool! 5 hours is pretty good for a first timer
Yes you do have to pull the right side of the dash back(the 2x4 I mentioned
is to hold it back) Most books will tell you to REMOVE the dash. Good job
man. Keep that cooling system in good shape so you dont have to do it again
anytime soon <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ?? 

Hi! Just noticed my windows steaming and I assume its the heater core- can
smell the antifreeze. Have read the good info on removal - my question is -
will just leaving heater off keep me from the steaming of the windows, or
do I have to disconnect the core? thanx, bob d.
 >> Stay informed about: 1993 Crown Vic -- heater core -- help ??