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Since: Jul 25, 2005
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:01 pm
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its only blue smoke now, i filled r up with 93 octane, changed the oil 10w
40 added some stp and it still dosent smoke aat first only about 5 min
later then i rev it up to round 2 grand and a minute later hardly no smoke

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:02 pm
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youve made the most sense to me so far, so when i go to replace the seals
what else should i replace while im there in your opinion? (on a limited
budget

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

coolant good and green and oil was very black now its nice after the change a little bit of leakage behind passenger side valve cover and i see theres oil underneath but no big spots on the ground >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Im going to do this thanks for the info sir captain >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

how can trans fluid get in the exhaust? >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

got lots of tools, besides its a work in progress but i agree id rather go to a professional but the pocket book dosent think the way i do. >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

its bluish only now >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> coolant good and green and oil was very black now its nice after the change > a little bit of leakage behind passenger side valve cover and i see theres > oil underneath but no big spots on the ground I'd still get it checked out, better pay a bit now than a lot later. cp >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 2005-07-28 19:07:00 -0700, "dzman" <josezenewicz DeleteThis @yahoo.com> said: > how can trans fluid get in the exhaust? Leaking vacuum modulator. >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 2005-07-28 19:08:37 -0700, "dzman" <josezenewicz RemoveThis @yahoo.com> said: > got lots of tools, besides its a work in progress but i agree id rather go > to a professional but the pocket book dosent think the way i do. If it's bluish, that is a giveaway for oil burning. Your options become bad ones at that point. Worst case first: 1) Poor oil control at rings. 2) Cracked head or heads, or head gasket. 3) valve seals. The best bet to identify the source of this is to go out when the vehicle is cold and pull all the plugs and examine them carefully. Odds are one or more of them will show some residue of the oil that you see coming out the tailpipe. If it's only one, then you can pursue those valve seals and see if that helps any. Otherwise.... MONDO labor. >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

yes your right, but then what fun would in talking about it? >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

oh, im not too familiar with mercedes this is my first one i really wanted an sec but hey whos complainin. also my sunroof dosent open they say in the manual to do it manually from the trunk by the hex nut. i tried and the nut came loose one way and the other way seemed to go too far with no results also i dont hear the motor running, the fuse is good. one more thing, theres a little motor behind the passenger rear wheel and it runs all the time. it appears to be a self leveler like my cadillac had but im not sure i plan to buy a chilton or haines book soon and study it. chilton only offered 76-89 book im checking haines tonight, some of the other places their manuals were very expensive. I should check ebay too i figure anyway any help will be appreciated thanks >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Your good at this i will check the plugs tomorrow which one is the easiest fix and ill pray for it to be that! Maybe GOD loves mercedes I expect thats the case. >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:55 am Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> yes your right, but then what fun would in talking about it? >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:55 am Post subject: Re: 1987 560 sel smoking problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> oh, im not too familiar with mercedes this is my first one i really wanted > an sec but hey whos complainin. also my sunroof dosent open they say in > the manual to do it manually from the trunk by the hex nut. i tried and > the nut came loose one way and the other way seemed to go too far with no > results also i dont hear the motor running, the fuse is good. one more > thing, theres a little motor behind the passenger rear wheel and it runs > all the time. it appears to be a self leveler like my cadillac had but im > not sure i plan to buy a chilton or haines book soon and study it. chilton > only offered 76-89 book im checking haines tonight, some of the other > places their manuals were very expensive. I should check ebay too i > figure anyway any help will be appreciated thanks If you want, I have the factory manual on CD, I can send you parts of it. cp >> Stay informed about: 1987 560 sel smoking problem

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