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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 pm
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I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in
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> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
> system?
>



My goodness, you're a busy one.

See my reply to this identical message in alt.autos.honda.

How many other groups did you independently post this to?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 pm
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>
>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
>> system?
>>
>
>
>
> My goodness, you're a busy one.
>
> See my reply to this identical message in alt.autos.honda.
>
> How many other groups did you independently post this to?

I have no idea how the Honda and Acura groups work these days, so I
posted everywhere.
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote in news:5TUTh.69078$6m4.19422
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>
>>
>>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound
>>> system?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My goodness, you're a busy one.
>>
>> See my reply to this identical message in alt.autos.honda.
>>
>> How many other groups did you independently post this to?
>
> I have no idea how the Honda and Acura groups work these days, so I
> posted everywhere.
>>
>


You sure did. And improperly, at that.

You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:55 pm
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>
> You sure did. And improperly, at that.
>
> You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".
>

So, what would the difference have been with a cross post? Wouldn't it
still have appeared on all the lists?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in news:q5WTh.69317$6m4.31812
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>
>>
>> You sure did. And improperly, at that.
>>
>> You should learn to cross-post. That's how you post "everywhere".
>>
>
> So, what would the difference have been with a cross post? Wouldn't it
> still have appeared on all the lists?
>


Yes, but any *replies* would have been limited to the single particular
group you posted to, and that group only. None of the other groups would
have known of, or benefited from, any replies to any other groups.

Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in all
groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody everywhere
would have been equally educated, and there would have been no duplication.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:55 am
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>
> Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in all
> groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody everywhere
> would have been equally educated, and there would have been no duplication.
>

Ah, that's an important difference. Is it hard to figure out how to
cross post?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in
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>
>>
>> Had you cross-posted properly, all the replies would have shown up in
>> all groups you posted to all at the same time, meaning everybody
>> everywhere would have been equally educated, and there would have
>> been no duplication.
>>
>
> Ah, that's an important difference. Is it hard to figure out how to
> cross post?



Nope.

In the little bar that shows the group you're posting to, you have to add
other groups manually. Their names should be separated by commas, but no
spaces.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:43 pm
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> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
> it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?

what is the problem ???
You're still covered by warranty, why not take it to dealer ?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:55 pm
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>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player. Is
>> it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market sound system?
>
> what is the problem ???
> You're still covered by warranty, why not take it to dealer ?
>


It took almost a month for the dealer to fix the cd player by replacing
it with a rebuilt one. This one is developing intermittent problems, but
the dealer won't fix it until it stops working for him, and then, I'd
wait another month.

I don't much like the cd player anyway and suspect I could get better
sound with a different one.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in
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>
>>> I have a Canadian '06 TSX and I'm having trouble with the cd player.
>>> Is it possible to replace the one I've got with an after market
>>> sound system?
>>
>> what is the problem ???
>> You're still covered by warranty, why not take it to dealer ?
>>
>
>
> It took almost a month for the dealer to fix the cd player by
> replacing it with a rebuilt one. This one is developing intermittent
> problems, but the dealer won't fix it until it stops working for him,
> and then, I'd wait another month.



Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.

Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait for
confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of time goes by
before they are authorized to perform the repair.



>
> I don't much like the cd player anyway and suspect I could get better
> sound with a different one.
>



Probably, but intrusion into the factory wiring setup is a recipe for
disaster, especially these days.

If you do decide to go aftermarket, have a _qualified_ professional shop do
the work, and insist they use an "aftermarket harness" so the factory
wiring is not altered.


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:55 am
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>
>
>
> Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
>
> Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait for
> confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of time goes by
> before they are authorized to perform the repair.
>

nah, the bastards just waited until they had a rebuilt cd player they
could give me.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in
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>
>>
>>
>>
>> Honda has been having many problems with their audio units.
>>
>> Honda also requires that dealers submit the warranty claim, AND wait
>> for confirmation, before performing the repair. This means lots of
>> time goes by before they are authorized to perform the repair.
>>
>
> nah, the bastards just waited until they had a rebuilt cd player they
> could give me.
>



Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair center,
remanufactured, then reissued.

If the dealer does not wait until they get warranty clearance from Honda,
they may have to eat the cost of replacing your radio. It makes no sense
for them to replace your audio unit until they get approval.


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:55 pm
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> Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
> issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair center,
> remanufactured, then reissued.
>
> If the dealer does not wait until they get warranty clearance from Honda,
> they may have to eat the cost of replacing your radio. It makes no sense
> for them to replace your audio unit until they get approval.


The dealer promised me a new unit, seeing as the car was only a few
months old. Then, he stalled and stalled for about a month.
Honda Canada was embarrassed when I complained and gave me some free
service for compensation. But having the newly rebuilt one start to
screw up really has me annoyed.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:55 pm
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really real <reallyreal.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in
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>
>> Failed units are replaced with rebuilts. That is Honda policy on this
>> issue. Failed audio units are sent to a Honda-authorized repair
>> center, remanufactured, then reissued.
>>
>> If the dealer does not wait until they get warranty clearance from
>> Honda, they may have to eat the cost of replacing your radio. It
>> makes no sense for them to replace your audio unit until they get
>> approval.
>
>
> The dealer promised me a new unit,



He can't do that; Honda won't give him one. You probably got that
promise from a new Service Advisor who didn't know any better and didn't
think to ask. Or maybe one who was sick of you bending his ear with
complaints and just said something nice to make you go away.



> seeing as the car was only a few
> months old. Then, he stalled and stalled for about a month.
> Honda Canada was embarrassed when I complained and gave me some free
> service for compensation. But having the newly rebuilt one start to
> screw up really has me annoyed.
>



Like I said, they've been having lots of trouble with their audio units.
Lots of TSBs on them.

But audio units are not like, say, transmissions, and will not receive
the same sort of corporate expenditure Honda is willing to lay out on
trannies.

Dealers have a hard row to hoe sometimes. Financially, dealers are
usually at Honda's mercy. Plus they have no say in what they must buy
from Honda, but they still have to sell and service what Honda sells to
them, no matter how inadequate or defective.

Keep bringin' it back as long as your warranty is in effect; make them
work for their money. Eventually you'll get a radio that keeps working.
I know this is a pain, but at least it's not a "stranded vehicle"
problem, like you might get with, say, Ford...



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