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Eric G.

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(Msg. 91) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:43 am
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Matt Whiting <whiting.TakeThisOut@epix.net> wrote in
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> Eric G. wrote:
>> Matt Whiting <whiting.TakeThisOut@epix.net> wrote in
>> news:NoKrj.173$kD5.2797@news1.epix.net:
>>
>> This debate definitely entertained the heck outta me Smile
>>
>> For the record, I believe the earth is warming. I don't believe
>> anyone has really figured out why yet. I also believe it is a
>> cyclical event that there ain't a thing we can do about. I am also a
>> registered Republican but I do vote for an occasional "D". I can't
>> find anyone I can really align with this time around though Sad
>
> Yes, I'm in much the same boat. I'm not a fan of any of the front
> runners or any of the "independents in waiting" such as Bloomberg. I
> may write in someone's name just so I can say I voted and did my civic
> duty, but did so without compromising my beliefs.
>
> Matt

At this point in time I'd have to agree with a write in being the best
choice for me as well. Bloomberg scares the heck out of me. His idea
of gun control is to allow only the criminals and police to have guns.
His fiscal policies seem pretty sound though, and I know many around
here in NJ would vote for him if he throws his hat in to the ring.

Doesn't Reagan have any relatives that want to run??? Smile

Eric


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(Msg. 92) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:10 pm
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> GUEST wrote:
> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai
Genesis!
> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the
Sonata,
> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
> way!!!

I realize this is not a political forum but it has
drifted that way and I have to comment. Ronald Reagan was a great
politician even if he was senile and his little sound bites were
cute. But he was a terrible president for the long term good of the
country. He added four trillion dollars to the national debt for
our chuildren to pay back. And it was not necessary because the
Russians would have gone broke soon without his escalation of the
cold war.

It just goes to show how shortsighted the American people are and they
are not very good at cause and effect.

I've been watching Presidents since 1952 and was in the military
during the Vietnam war and Bush is the worst president yet with
Johnson second worst.

Matt: Be sure to check for spelling and gramatical errors since it
will prove that I am not really an engineer. Do not look at content.

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Rob

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(Msg. 93) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:22 pm
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"southluke" <luke.l.talley RemoveThis @boeing-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> > GUEST wrote:
> > Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai
> Genesis!
> > Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the
> Sonata,
> > but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
> > way!!!
>
> I realize this is not a political forum but it has
> drifted that way and I have to comment. Ronald Reagan was a great
> politician even if he was senile and his little sound bites were
> cute. But he was a terrible president for the long term good of the
> country.

I would say that honor goes to Carter.


He added four trillion dollars to the national debt for
> our chuildren to pay back. And it was not necessary because the
> Russians would have gone broke soon without his escalation of the
> cold war.
>
> It just goes to show how shortsighted the American people are and they
> are not very good at cause and effect.
>
> I've been watching Presidents since 1952 and was in the military
> during the Vietnam war and Bush is the worst president yet with
> Johnson second worst.
>
> Matt: Be sure to check for spelling and gramatical errors since it
> will prove that I am not really an engineer. Do not look at content.
>
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Matt Whiting

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(Msg. 94) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:41 am
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southluke wrote:
> > GUEST wrote:
> > Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai
> Genesis!
> > Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the
> Sonata,
> > but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
> > way!!!
>
> I realize this is not a political forum but it has
> drifted that way and I have to comment. Ronald Reagan was a great
> politician even if he was senile and his little sound bites were
> cute. But he was a terrible president for the long term good of the
> country. He added four trillion dollars to the national debt for
> our chuildren to pay back. And it was not necessary because the
> Russians would have gone broke soon without his escalation of the
> cold war.
>
> It just goes to show how shortsighted the American people are and they
> are not very good at cause and effect.
>
> I've been watching Presidents since 1952 and was in the military
> during the Vietnam war and Bush is the worst president yet with
> Johnson second worst.
>
> Matt: Be sure to check for spelling and gramatical errors since it
> will prove that I am not really an engineer. Do not look at content.

I would look at content if only there were some content.

Matt
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Bob Adkins

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(Msg. 95) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:08 pm
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(Msg. 96) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:11 pm
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(Msg. 97) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:05 pm
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"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:15:30 GMT, "Eric G."
> <NgOrSePeAnM99 DeleteThis @Zoptonline.Znet> wrote:
>
>
>>For the record, I believe the earth is warming. I don't believe anyone
>>has
>>really figured out why yet. I also believe it is a cyclical event that
>>there ain't a thing we can do about. I am also a registered Republican
>>but
>>I do vote for an occasional "D". I can't find anyone I can really align
>>with this time around though Sad
>
> I don't want to add confusion on top of doubt, but...
>
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
>
> I already hate global cooling. Sad
> -
>
> Bob

This is the best (IMHO) objective and non-partisan take on the subject I've
found:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
It's worth everyone's time to read it.

I especially like this snippet:

Global warming alarmists maintain that global temperatures have increased
since about A.D. 1860 to the present as the result of the so-called
"Industrial Revolution,"-- caused by releases of large amounts of greenhouse
gases (principally carbon dioxide) from manmade sources into the atmosphere
causing a runaway "Greenhouse Effect."
Was man really responsible for pulling the Earth out of the Little Ice Age
with his industrial pollution? If so, this may be one of the greatest
unheralded achievements of the Industrial Age!
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(Msg. 98) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:56 pm
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"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> We don't need any artificial laws. The only real law that should
> govern MPG in cars and fuel prices is supply and demand. Let the
> markets stay free. That way, the prices will always be fair, and the
> vehicles will have bearable fuel economy.
>
> You talk as though the government is responsible for the laws of
> physics. Internal combustion engines have been all but tweaked to the
> limit. In order to improve mileage significantly, the automobile will
> have to undergo serious change. Cars will have to get smaller and a
> lot lighter to significantly improve mileage. Some people won't like
> the cars that result, so they will be accepted very grudgingly. Car
> makers aren't in business to make the government happy. They are in
> business to make their customers happy. And that's the way it should
> be.
> -
>
> Bob

Normally I'd agree and strongly support your position. But I'm not so sure
it works in this case.

Let's play "what if". What if the government did not mandated unleaded
fuel? What if the government did not mandate some fuel savings? Would
technology have won or would we be changing plugs at 10,000 miles because
they are lead fouled? Would cars till be 5000 pounds when a much lighter
one performs better?

Agree that the internal combustion engine is pretty close to its limits so
other types must be researched. Twenty years ago people said the internal
combustion engine was at its limit, but the automakers manage to add some
power every couple of years. Just look at the 3800 GM for instance.
Hyundai 3.3 is getting a boost. Evidently it is still possible to squeeze a
bit more.

Just my opinion, but the hybrid is not the way of the future.

I'm also not so sure that the automakers actually want some of the changes
that the government forces them to charge more for and increase profits.
Public posturing aside, they do add those mandated "improvements" into the
cost of the car. "We don't want to increase prices but the government makes
us do it."
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(Msg. 99) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:21 pm
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Bob Adkins <bob.adkins.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:15:30 GMT, "Eric G."
> <NgOrSePeAnM99.DeleteThis@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote:
>
>
>>For the record, I believe the earth is warming. I don't believe
>>anyone has really figured out why yet. I also believe it is a
>>cyclical event that there ain't a thing we can do about. I am also a
>>registered Republican but I do vote for an occasional "D". I can't
>>find anyone I can really align with this time around though Sad
>
> I don't want to add confusion on top of doubt, but...
>
> http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175
>
> I already hate global cooling. Sad
> -
>
> Bob

Jeez, Bob. You'll believe just about anyone, won't you?? Smile


To be honest, it has more credibility to me than Al Gore does. Does this
mean we'll have to get the government to regulate that all cars and trucks
ahouls get LESS than 10 MPG and generate more CO2? Oh wait, I see it says
the sun overpowers anything man could ever do to the environment, CO2 wise
that is.

Eric
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(Msg. 100) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:56 am
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(Msg. 105) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:24 am
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Reply to message from Matt Whiting <whiting RemoveThis @epix.net> (Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:
36:51) about "Re: Wow! How about that new Genesis!":

MW> Funny, it seems that the opinions of the group are running unanimously
MW> against you. So who has the more valid opinion?

Maybe some of us agree with him but don' t have the time to spend online
pushing this particular piece of string..... Wink

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Wayne Moses <wayne.moses RemoveThis @comcast.net> Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:27:26 -0600

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