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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:02 pm
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"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >That's one way to look at the matter. Another is that the real idiots
> >are
>>those who blindly think they can drive around in the lightest, smallest,
>>most vulnerable pieces of junk, with a singular focus on the economics of
>>their vehicle, and then blame others who actually care about other factors
>>(like survivability) for the consequences of their decisions.
>
> Right. That's why old people drive in the biggest boats they can find.
> Your point is very dull.
>
Your point never made it through. Try that again?
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:16 pm
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"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> The fact of the matter is, if you took the time to understand that the
> point of the Energy Tax Act, when created, was to exempt large trucks
> from having to have the same gas mileage as passenger cars do. Back
> THEN, people used light trucks for utilitarian purposes. That isn't
> true today. Car makers use this gaping loophole to make Hummers,
> Navigators, and other vehicles and call them "trucks" because of their
> weight or the way the square footage come out. They are as utilitarian
> as tits on a bull. Nowadays, people don't buy Hummers or Navigators or
> crew-cab trucks because they use them for "work", they buy them
> because they can and have all the money in the world to blow on gas or
> diesel.
Do you ever actually pay attention to who really drives those big diesel
duelies? Check it out - most are used for real hauling. Navigators - I
agree with you on that point, as well as those who buy Hummers. But - they
pay the price not you or I, so what either of us think about it does not
matter. You may well be a bigger user of gas than either of those,
depending on the number of miles you put on in your Sonata each year.
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> Why should someone's "work" truck consume at twice the rate my car
> does and not pay any penalty just because of a loophole in a law?
And why should they pay a penalty beyond the price they already pay for the
vehicle and fuel? You're starting to sound like you're all about penalizing
anyone who does not fit into your definition of what is acceptable.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:25 pm
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> Why should someone's "work" truck consume at twice the rate my car
> does and not pay any penalty just because of a loophole in a law?
They pay twice as much to go the same distance
> Nobody drives Fiats in this country and to say people drive "go-karts"
> shows us how much of a manly man you are by insulting the group.
Didn't insult me... Your socialism does. I drive a 06 Sonata 6 cyl. Does
that mean I'm screwing the rest of you because I did not get the 4 cyl? I
own a 07 F150 8' bed...6 cyl. Does that mean I'm some kind of evil person
for owning a long bed truck...or maybe I'm a saint because it's only a 6
cyl. I don't have a 4 door 8 cyl because I can't afford one. If I could and
I wanted one the gov. has no business telling me what to drive. It's called
free market economics, build a vehicle that people like more than their SUVs
and they will buy them. I have no problem with SUV getting NO special
treatment but I do have a problem with them being penalized because some
liberal tree hugger thinks they're evil. >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:32 pm
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"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >That's one way to look at the matter. Another is that the real idiots
> >are
>>those who blindly think they can drive around in the lightest, smallest,
>>most vulnerable pieces of junk, with a singular focus on the economics of
>>their vehicle, and then blame others who actually care about other factors
>>(like survivability) for the consequences of their decisions.
>
> Right. That's why old people drive in the biggest boats they can find.
> Your point is very dull.
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf
They drive boats because they are comfortable. Be careful though... some
of those "boats" are likely to get better MPG than your Sonata. I've rented
Park Avenues and some Cadillac's that got excellent MPG. >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:34 pm
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"jp103" <jpoinier110522mi.RemoveThis@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer the
> forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good strong rear
> bumper tailgaters won't bother me.
>
> John
> St Peters wrote:
>> Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me.
>> I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car, the
>> Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an optional
>> 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and also make the
>> Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they tailgate.
>>
>> Fred
With all the diesel smoke, no one will tailgate.
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>> <bought2bought.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:b50d16a4-c6ea-4230-bd16-2031c69c1510@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis!
>>> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the Sonata,
>>> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
>>> way!!!
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:34 pm
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WOW !!!!! has anybody seen the NEW HYUNDAI GENESIS YET ?
Hank
"Rob" <bucfan11 RemoveThis @SPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "jp103" <jpoinier110522mi RemoveThis @nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:htOdnZj-08vuLTXanZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer the
>> forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good strong rear
>> bumper tailgaters won't bother me.
>>
>> John
>> St Peters wrote:
>>> Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me.
>>> I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car, the
>>> Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an optional
>>> 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and also make the
>>> Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they tailgate.
>>>
>>> Fred
>
> With all the diesel smoke, no one will tailgate.
>
>
>>>
>>> <bought2bought RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:b50d16a4-c6ea-4230-bd16-2031c69c1510@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis!
>>>> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the Sonata,
>>>> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
>>>> way!!!
>>> >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:51 pm
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Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:
>> I guess you can't read either...I use my truck for WORK...Look it up if you
>> don't know what it means.....By the way ,what do you drive and how big is
>> your house? Public Transportation and Public Housing maybe???? I'll get rid
>> of my truck when Al Gore starts riding a bike and living in a Tee-Pee...LOL
>
> I own my own house and I drive an 02 Sonata.
>
> I understand people who drive trucks for work (i.e., construction,
> carrying payload, etc.). No one needs a crew-cab V8 with 8ft bed or
> dualie to get groceries or drive to the office. Same for Hummers, same
> for Navigators, same for blah blah blah. But, people can do whatever
> they want with their money. If you can afford it, good for you. Don't
> screw the rest of the American populous in the interim with you
> obsession with waste and consumerism. Exxon is happy that you've
> helped them break a global record for profit on gas this past year.
> Yay for you. May the Arab Oil Czars put their blessing on you and your
> family. Allah Ahkbar.
And nobody needs a Sonata either. What a gas hog when you can ride a
bicycle or drive a Prius!
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:45 pm
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:46 pm
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:47 pm
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"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >NO... This may sound alien to ya but I work for myself(construction) and
>>have written paychecks to employees...Hell, I not only shop at Walmart ,
>>my
>>wife works there. I drive a 95 Silverado for work,wife drives an 06
>>Elantra.If you could see my size you would understand why I refer to
>>subcompacts as go-carts...LOL... I work DAMN hard to earn my money and
>>will
>>spend it as I see fit.Screw you nanny types and global warming snake oil
>>salesmen........
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> You don't even see the irony in it all. I never mentioned global
> warming. I am talking about rate of consumption. Big difference.
> Please continue to support the Chinese and Arab economies, they're
> depending on you.
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf
Geesh,ATLEAST use the right countries I'm supporting...Like The United
States,(we do still produce our own oil you know)Canada, Venezuela,Russia
THEN Saudi Arabia. Don't forget Korea (Elantra)...LOL..MORON... >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:47 pm
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:34 pm
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"Rob" <bucfan11.RemoveThis@SPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
> news:5c7hq35un2dol8unrvulliaa2k6j2l12d1@4ax.com...
>> >That's one way to look at the matter. Another is that the real idiots
>> >are
>>>those who blindly think they can drive around in the lightest, smallest,
>>>most vulnerable pieces of junk, with a singular focus on the economics of
>>>their vehicle, and then blame others who actually care about other
>>>factors
>>>(like survivability) for the consequences of their decisions.
>>
>> Right. That's why old people drive in the biggest boats they can find.
>> Your point is very dull.
>>
>> - Thee Chicago Wolf
>
> They drive boats because they are comfortable. Be careful though... some
> of those "boats" are likely to get better MPG than your Sonata. I've
> rented Park Avenues and some Cadillac's that got excellent MPG.
Point of fact - I owned a Buick Park Avenue Ultra with a supercharged 3.8L
V-6. I put over 225,000 miles on that car in complete luxury, and it easily
rolled its way down the interstate at over 30mpg. Around town the car got
24mpg. Talk about fast... the supercharged 3.8 was just fast. Great car.
But of course, it was one of those "boats"...
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:30 pm
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Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:
>> And nobody needs a Sonata either. What a gas hog when you can ride a
>> bicycle or drive a Prius!
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> Dude, the 08 4-cyl Sonata gets better gas mileage and has more
> horsepower than my 02. 09 Sonata is supposed to be even better. I am
> hoping my 02 lasts until Hyundai comes out with their Hybrids (2011?
> 2012?).
That doesn't matter. The point is that you are complaining about people
who drive trucks that get worse mileage than your Sonata. I'm simply
point out how hypocritical you are since you are driving a vehicle that
gets much poorer mileage than alternatives such as the Prius.
Kind of like Al Gore in his energy guzzling mansion flying around in
jets and complaining about global warming.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:30 pm
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