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Travis King

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:55 pm
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Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious.
Do you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think
it would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k
miles - throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are
not serious.

1. Stalls especially when you goose the gas pedal from a stop from time
to time, especially in reverse and especially when the steering wheel is
turned sharp. It will do it going straight however. Sometimes turns
over bad on the restart after it stalls. It didn't actually used to
have a problem starting back up until the past few months.
2. Has issues starting below 0 (F) and the battery appears to be good.
(Turns over very slow - if the motor does start, it sometimes sputters
and dies after a second or two on the bitter cold days) Oil used is
5W30 and was changed less than two months ago. It also backfires
sometimes when you're trying to get it to start on those bitter cold
days like today for example. You could actually see the smoke coming
off of the engine when it backfires back by the air filter some place.
3. Putt-putts like a lawn mower does.
4. Misses really bad especially if you begin to drive the vehicle and
don't let it warm up for at least five minutes on days where the
temperatures are below 50 (F). It really misses when you come to a stop
when it's still cold.
5. Misses and sometimes dies when you give the car gas when you first
start it up cold even if you just lightly press the gas pedal.
6. From time to time, it turns over poorly if you start it up hot.
*7. Cruise control does not work.
8. Valve cover gasket leaking. (PCV valve possibly causing this as it
has been addressed several times before)
9. Dad says he can hear the engine making a knocking noise.
10. Possible engine rocker noise heard on occasion when started cold on
colder days.
11. Timing may be off - not sure.
12. On occasion, a "rotten egg" smell is noticed when driving the car.
Seems to do this more on colder days and seems to be infrequent. It
only does this once a month at the most and it appears to be random when
it does this and when it doesn't.
13. Tapping noise heard from the engine. (I've noticed it slightly and
Dad has also noticed it.)
14. Sometimes acts like you're not letting the car turn over long
enough. (This is where I think the timing may be off.)
*15. The A/C does not work and will cost more than it's worth to fix
from what we've been told.
*16. A speaker cuts out at low volumes - when you crank the volume up,
the speaker kicks back in.

In a previous post done by me earlier today, I discovered the antifreeze
leak was just caused my a hose that was not tight. I tightened it up.
We have tightened up that hose before, so for some reason, it keeps
getting loose and has be tightened from time to time I guess.

I just checked my oil level today and it's fine and the oil's condition
also looks fine.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:55 pm
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Travis King wrote:
> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
> throttle body injected)

I stopped reading there. The answer is no. A 19 year old dime-a-dozen
sedan that has a LIST of issues? No No No. Not unless the educational
value of doing the work yourself comes into the equation, but even then
I say no because all the technology in that car is waaayyyyy outdated.
GW

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:42 pm
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"Travis King" wrote in message

> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
> you think this car's worth fixing?

Nope.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:55 pm
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Geoff Welsh wrote:
> Travis King wrote:
>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious.
>> Do you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think
>> it would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k
>> miles - throttle body injected)
>
> I stopped reading there. The answer is no. A 19 year old dime-a-dozen
> sedan that has a LIST of issues? No No No. Not unless the educational
> value of doing the work yourself comes into the equation, but even then
> I say no because all the technology in that car is waaayyyyy outdated.
> GW
I figured that would be an easy one for you all to answer... lol
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:31 pm
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"Travis King" wrote in message

> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
> serious.

I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go ahead
and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then the car did
to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them and liked
them.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:55 pm
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80 Knight wrote:
> "Travis King" wrote in message
>
>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
>> serious.
>
> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
> but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go ahead
> and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then the car did
> to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them and liked
> them.
>
>
Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot,
but I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine
is going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as
I'm concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on
the original tranny to my knowledge.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:05 pm
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"Travis King" wrote in message

> 80 Knight wrote:
>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>
>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>>> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
>>> serious.
>>
>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
>> but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go
>> ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then
>> the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them
>> and liked them.
> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot, but
> I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine is
> going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as I'm
> concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on the
> original tranny to my knowledge.

You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together, its
time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be getting
someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:01 pm
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:48:19 -1000, Geoff Welsh
wrote:

>Travis King wrote:
>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>> throttle body injected)
>
>I stopped reading there. The answer is no. A 19 year old dime-a-dozen
>sedan that has a LIST of issues? No No No. Not unless the educational
>value of doing the work yourself comes into the equation, but even then
>I say no because all the technology in that car is waaayyyyy outdated.
>GW
Doesn't say what the condition of the rest of the vehicle is. If it's
a cream-puff, it might be worth cleaning the injectors and replacing
the ignition high tension components. If there are no compression
issues that will likely fix it. About 2 bills if you do it yourself.
It IS a low mileage car.(for the year)

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I would fix the car. sounds to me like a bad EGR, bad starter, probably
needs a tune up too.


<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message

> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:48:19 -1000, Geoff Welsh
> wrote:
>
>>Travis King wrote:
>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>>> throttle body injected)
>>
>>I stopped reading there. The answer is no. A 19 year old dime-a-dozen
>>sedan that has a LIST of issues? No No No. Not unless the educational
>>value of doing the work yourself comes into the equation, but even then
>>I say no because all the technology in that car is waaayyyyy outdated.
>>GW
> Doesn't say what the condition of the rest of the vehicle is. If it's
> a cream-puff, it might be worth cleaning the injectors and replacing
> the ignition high tension components. If there are no compression
> issues that will likely fix it. About 2 bills if you do it yourself.
> It IS a low mileage car.(for the year)
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:17 am
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80 Knight wrote:
> "Travis King" wrote in message
>
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>>>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>>>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>>>> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
>>>> serious.
>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
>>> but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go
>>> ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then
>>> the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them
>>> and liked them.
>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot, but
>> I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine is
>> going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as I'm
>> concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on the
>> original tranny to my knowledge.
>
> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together, its
> time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be getting
> someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
>
>
Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The
spots you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were
and the spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:17 am
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"Travis King" wrote in message

> 80 Knight wrote:
>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>
>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious.
>>>>> Do you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think
>>>>> it would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k
>>>>> miles - throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are
>>>>> not serious.
>>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many
>>>> problems, but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good
>>>> shape, then go ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more
>>>> in repairs then the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because
>>>> I was used to them and liked them.
>>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot,
>>> but I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine
>>> is going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as
>>> I'm concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on
>>> the original tranny to my knowledge.
>>
>> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
>> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
>> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together,
>> its time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
>> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
>> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be
>> getting someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
> Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
> changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The spots
> you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were and the
> spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg

It's actually a nice looking car, if you ask me. Is that burgundy interior?
I love that interior color. One of our 1987 6000's had the burgundy
interior, and both of my old Grand Prix's had the same.
Looks like the body is pretty good, so its up to if you want to repair the
things wrong with the car. I found myself in the situation you are in a
couple of times, but it was usually cheaper to fix the car I had then to buy
another one. You did say you don't like the car very much, so perhaps that
is a good reason to get rid of it. Most people don't like putting money into
cars period, let alone ones they don't like.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:17 am
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:17:45 GMT, Travis King
wrote:

>80 Knight wrote:
>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>
>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>>>>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>>>>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>>>>> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
>>>>> serious.
>>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
>>>> but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go
>>>> ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then
>>>> the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them
>>>> and liked them.
>>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot, but
>>> I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine is
>>> going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as I'm
>>> concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on the
>>> original tranny to my knowledge.
>>
>> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
>> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
>> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together, its
>> time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
>> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
>> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be getting
>> someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
>>
>>
>Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
>changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The
>spots you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were
>and the spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
>http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
>http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
>http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg
In that condition I'd at least check out the injectors and ignition
wires - enough to cause virtually ALL of the reported problems.

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80 Knight wrote:
> "Travis King" wrote in message
>
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious.
>>>>>> Do you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think
>>>>>> it would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k
>>>>>> miles - throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are
>>>>>> not serious.
>>>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many
>>>>> problems, but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good
>>>>> shape, then go ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more
>>>>> in repairs then the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because
>>>>> I was used to them and liked them.
>>>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot,
>>>> but I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>>>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine
>>>> is going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as
>>>> I'm concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on
>>>> the original tranny to my knowledge.
>>> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
>>> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
>>> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together,
>>> its time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
>>> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
>>> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be
>>> getting someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
>> Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
>> changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The spots
>> you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were and the
>> spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
>> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg
>
> It's actually a nice looking car, if you ask me. Is that burgundy interior?
> I love that interior color. One of our 1987 6000's had the burgundy
> interior, and both of my old Grand Prix's had the same.
> Looks like the body is pretty good, so its up to if you want to repair the
> things wrong with the car. I found myself in the situation you are in a
> couple of times, but it was usually cheaper to fix the car I had then to buy
> another one. You did say you don't like the car very much, so perhaps that
> is a good reason to get rid of it. Most people don't like putting money into
> cars period, let alone ones they don't like.
>
>
Yes, the interior is burgundy. If I did try to sell this car, the good
points would be the body, the miles for its age, and the fuel economy,
which still is getting around 30mpg or 31mpg on the highway the last
time I took it out, which was two months ago. It managed fine. The car
always seems to make it fine on long drives provided it can make it out
of the driveway. Only has the basic dashboard - speedometer that goes
to 85MPH and the fuel gauge, plus the warning lights - SES, brake, oil,
temp, and volts. I also know this car's past, as it's been in our
family for nearly ten years, so I know it's not really ever been that
reliable. When my brother bought it with only 60,000 miles ten years
ago, it needed three major repairs done and was sold for $1800. One of
the repairs was the fuel pump. I don't remember the other two, but I
remembered that my brother always had problems getting the car to start.
(See, this car always has had starting problems.) The stalling
problem this car has when you press the gas sometimes has always been
there in the ten years it's been in our family, and it was annoying to
all of us. lol The A/C quit only a year after my brother bought it,
when he saw the freon starting to run through the vents, and was told
back then the car wasn't worth fixing for the A/C. The car also used to
have an overheating problem where you'd sit at a fast food place and
wait and the temp light would come on from time to time - it would even
do this during the winter. This was odd though because this problem was
never addressed and the problem has gone away since I've had the car
unless my mom had it fixed and I didn't know it - even when it idles
after a long drive on really hot days. When I took the car over three
years ago, the oil was leaking from the valve cover gasket, and I got
that fixed. A month later, it started leaving puddles of oil in the
driveway, so we siliconed it, and that held for a year, now it's been
leaking for a while again. (I know, the PCV valve.)
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80 Knight wrote:
> "Travis King" wrote in message
>
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious.
>>>>>> Do you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think
>>>>>> it would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k
>>>>>> miles - throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are
>>>>>> not serious.
>>>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many
>>>>> problems, but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good
>>>>> shape, then go ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more
>>>>> in repairs then the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because
>>>>> I was used to them and liked them.
>>>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot,
>>>> but I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>>>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine
>>>> is going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as
>>>> I'm concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on
>>>> the original tranny to my knowledge.
>>> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
>>> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
>>> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together,
>>> its time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
>>> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
>>> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be
>>> getting someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
>> Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
>> changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The spots
>> you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were and the
>> spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
>> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg
>
> It's actually a nice looking car, if you ask me. Is that burgundy interior?
> I love that interior color. One of our 1987 6000's had the burgundy
> interior, and both of my old Grand Prix's had the same.
> Looks like the body is pretty good, so its up to if you want to repair the
> things wrong with the car. I found myself in the situation you are in a
> couple of times, but it was usually cheaper to fix the car I had then to buy
> another one. You did say you don't like the car very much, so perhaps that
> is a good reason to get rid of it. Most people don't like putting money into
> cars period, let alone ones they don't like.
>
>
I'll add that the headliner was coming down, so we took that out and put
vinyl headliner up. (This was back when I first got the car.) The
vinyl is light gray instead of the burgundy, but it kind of matches the
gray on the dashboard. Unfortunately, the headliner glue wasn't holding
it well enough - it was partially, so we got a few bars that we put
across the ceiling to hold the headliner up, and it holds it up well
without any sag.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:28 am
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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:17:45 GMT, Travis King
> wrote:
>
>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> 80 Knight wrote:
>>>>> "Travis King" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the list of issues that mostly need attention and are serious. Do
>>>>>> you think this car's worth fixing? Secondly, how much do you think it
>>>>>> would cost to fix all of this? (1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5 with 125k miles -
>>>>>> throttle body injected) The ones below with asterisks (*) are not
>>>>>> serious.
>>>>> I would say it is totally up to you. The car seems to have many problems,
>>>>> but if you like the car enough, and the body is in good shape, then go
>>>>> ahead and keep it. I have owned cars that cost me more in repairs then
>>>>> the car did to buy, but I still repaired them, because I was used to them
>>>>> and liked them.
>>>> Well, the body's in great shape, but I don't like the car a whole lot, but
>>>> I am used to it. The seat is starting to tear a little bit on the
>>>> driver's side - it's old though, so what do you expect? If the engine is
>>>> going to see some sort of an overhaul, it's all over with as far as I'm
>>>> concerned. Same for the tranny if it ever goes, and I'm still on the
>>>> original tranny to my knowledge.
>>> You are well ahead of where we were when we had our last 6000. The body
>>> rusted out so bad we had to scrap the car. I always liked the 6000's, but
>>> when the body get's to the point where it's not going to hold together, its
>>> time to get rid of it. As for your car, it's totally up to you. One
>>> advantage you do have (as opposed to buying another used car) is you know
>>> all the problems with yours. If you buy another used car, you may be getting
>>> someone else's problems. Still up to you though. Smile
>>>
>>>
>> Here are three pictures of it taken a little over a year ago. It hasn't
>> changed much... I guess one of them was only three months ago. The
>> spots you see on the trunk in the picture were just where leaves were
>> and the spots were washed off, so don't panic there. lol
>> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6049/p1160003mediumic0.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1188/p1160004mediumoq5.jpg
>> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/469/img2189mediumfn1.jpg
> In that condition I'd at least check out the injectors and ignition
> wires - enough to cause virtually ALL of the reported problems.
>
Do you think it might be a compression problem when I mentioned the one
about the steering wheel being turned and pressing the gas. Twice it
has stalled on me just when I simply turned the steering wheel without
pressing the gas. The last time it did that was over a month ago, and
the car did not want to start back up after it stalled that time either.
It also stalled every single time that I put it in reverse and let off
the brake.
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