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fieronut

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:01 pm
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The above problem has bothered me for almost a year..but not much rain in
TX so it didn't bother me much. But with winter coming on, where do I
start? Switch? Relay? Motor? And when I press the washer button, the
speed of the wipers is determined by the speed setting of the wipers. In
other words, when it's set on fast, even tho it doesn't work normally, it
runs fast with the washers. And slow...slow. Very frustrating! TIA,
John

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:12 pm
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"Fieronut" <fieronut DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in
news:1bca7769755f796af0808d75ddfc46ac@localhost.talkaboutautos.com:

> The above problem has bothered me for almost a year..but not much rain
in
> TX so it didn't bother me much. But with winter coming on, where do I
> start? Switch? Relay? Motor? And when I press the washer button,
the
> speed of the wipers is determined by the speed setting of the wipers.
In
> other words, when it's set on fast, even tho it doesn't work normally,
it
> runs fast with the washers. And slow...slow. Very frustrating! TIA,
> John
>
>

Somewhat common problem in the '96-98 year models.
Also appears as a "phantom wiper" operation, where the blades wipe once
or twice without any intervention (and for no reason).

I had a '97 dodge with the above problem.
Most often the causes I heard about were:
steering wheel clockspring
ground to passenger side wiper motor
ground wire somewhere that escapes me currently
bad BCU

Once my wipers quit altogether (except sometimes with the washer like
yours) I opted to trade it in. I am in southern California, so also not
often much need for wipers, but we do get a bit of fog and mist and it
got annoying.

Good luck!

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Bill Putney

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:16 am
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Fieronut wrote:

> The above problem has bothered me for almost a year..but not much rain in
> TX so it didn't bother me much. But with winter coming on, where do I
> start? Switch? Relay? Motor? And when I press the washer button, the
> speed of the wipers is determined by the speed setting of the wipers. In
> other words, when it's set on fast, even tho it doesn't work normally, it
> runs fast with the washers. And slow...slow. Very frustrating! TIA,
> John

First step is get schematics for the wiper assembly (from a real FSM -
not from an aftermarket manual - you can buy an FSM, get the dealer to
photocopy the appropriate page(s) after you look at theirs and pick out
the pertinent page (s), or get an on line alldata.com subscription for
your vehicle - on-line availability if all schematics specific to your
vehicle right out of the FSM come with the subscription). Second step
is, from the schematics, logically determining what could fail that
would cause the symtoms. Third step would be to narrow it down and
pinpoint the cause with a multimeter and good troubleshooting skills.

Obviously the motor itself is OK, and the path that provides voltage to
the motor from pressing the washer button is good, but the main path for
normal wiper running has a problem.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:45 pm
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Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.


Thanx.
John
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:52 pm
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Fieronut wrote:

> Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
> was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.
>
>
> Thanx.
> John
>

Yep - good deal. You're welcome.

Bill Putney
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:09 pm
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I have the same problem I think. I only got part of this thread.

The wipers on my 96 T&C are very picky about when they will work. The
washer does make them activate. They work some times. I changed out
the whole turn signal arm assembly and it seemed to work for a short
time, but I think it was just a fluke.

Have you found out what this may be?



Bill Putney wrote:
> Fieronut wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
>> was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.
>>
>> Thanx.
>> John
>>
>
> Yep - good deal. You're welcome.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:12 pm
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I have the same problem I think. I only got part of this thread.

The wipers on my 96 T&C are very picky about when they will work. The
washer does make them activate. They work some times. I changed out
the whole turn signal arm assembly and it seemed to work for a short
time, but I think it was just a fluke.

Have you found out what this may be?


Bill Putney wrote:
> Fieronut wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
>> was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.
>>
>> Thanx.
>> John
>>
>
> Yep - good deal. You're welcome.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:20 pm
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checking the wipers to see if they work on spray is a step in troubleshooting
the wipers when they are inop. it's in the service manual
there is a tsb for testing the system since there has been so big time issues
with the wiper system so i would first check for fault codes in the bcm then
go from there so parts are not thrown at it.

"Just Me (remove to reply)" wrote:

> I have the same problem I think. I only got part of this thread.
>
> The wipers on my 96 T&C are very picky about when they will work. The
> washer does make them activate. They work some times. I changed out
> the whole turn signal arm assembly and it seemed to work for a short
> time, but I think it was just a fluke.
>
> Have you found out what this may be?
>
> Bill Putney wrote:
> > Fieronut wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
> >> was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.
> >>
> >> Thanx.
> >> John
> >>
> >
> > Yep - good deal. You're welcome.
> >
> > Bill Putney
> > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> > address with the letter 'x')
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:55 pm
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Does anyone have this TSB?

26-07-99D JUL 99 Wipers/Washers - Wiper System Test Revisions



philthy wrote:
> checking the wipers to see if they work on spray is a step in troubleshooting
> the wipers when they are inop. it's in the service manual
> there is a tsb for testing the system since there has been so big time issues
> with the wiper system so i would first check for fault codes in the bcm then
> go from there so parts are not thrown at it.
>
> "Just Me (remove to reply)" wrote:
>
>> I have the same problem I think. I only got part of this thread.
>>
>> The wipers on my 96 T&C are very picky about when they will work. The
>> washer does make them activate. They work some times. I changed out
>> the whole turn signal arm assembly and it seemed to work for a short
>> time, but I think it was just a fluke.
>>
>> Have you found out what this may be?
>>
>> Bill Putney wrote:
>>> Fieronut wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a deal. I have the FSM and can check it. I just thot if it
>>>> was a common problem, as it seems to be, someone might have a quick fix.
>>>>
>>>> Thanx.
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> Yep - good deal. You're welcome.
>>>
>>> Bill Putney
>>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>>> address with the letter 'x')
>
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