Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL

Hi:

The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than likely the
thermostat.

Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have combustion
leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the cooling
system.

Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.

The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The hole is
there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks through the
hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.

I hope this helps.

RK
"StarMan" <NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
>
> However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my heat.
> Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't worried
> much about that alone.
>
> Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but then fall
> to 200 suddenly.
>
> When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump down
> below.
>
> I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
>
>
> Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water pump
> suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in a few
> seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also there's the
> lack of HEAT inside the car.
>
> I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
> radiator,
> it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
> evidence
> to go ahead and replace the water pump?
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

Hello and thanks

As far as I can tell, the water is actually leaking RIGHT OUT of the water
pump (I need to look at the diagram again to ensure I have it ID'd right but
I'm pretty sure). I can't tell if it's coming out of a weep hole or not,
but the water I add, when it gets full, seems to pour right out of the water
pump, where it connects with the engine, drips down onto the main drive
wheel which drives the belt, then onto the ground.

When you say "head gasket" or "cracked head", I confess to getting
concerned. But how would I tell if it's the carbon seal of the water pump
or something much worse?

As I mentioned, the water drips out when the rad gets filled but I can't ID
just where.

I can't see where any of the hoses are leaking, when I've looked further.




"Refinish King" <Julio572004 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:zvcRi.4242$2h2.1511@trndny01...
> Hi:
>
> The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than likely
the
> thermostat.
>
> Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have combustion
> leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the cooling
> system.
>
> Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.
>
> The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The hole
is
> there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks through the
> hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> RK
> "StarMan" <NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
> >
> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my
heat.
> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't worried
> > much about that alone.
> >
> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but then
fall
> > to 200 suddenly.
> >
> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump down
> > below.
> >
> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
> >
> >
> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water
pump
> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in a
few
> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also there's
the
> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
> >
> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
> > radiator,
> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
> > evidence
> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

Thanks, Bill.

As I just posted in another reply, though, the pump isn't just "wet";
filling the rad causes the water to actively leak from somewhere.



"Bill" <Spamwgerickson DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13h9cgh5oo0a23e@corp.supernews.com...
> To me the sounds of your skyrocketing high then dropping low sounds like a
> thermostat to me, and a wet water pump, could be a sign of a replacement
> water pump maybe needed..
> Bill
>
>
> "StarMan" <NOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
> >
> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my
heat.
> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't worried
> > much about that alone.
> >
> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but then
fall
> > to 200 suddenly.
> >
> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump down
> > below.
> >
> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
> >
> >
> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water
pump
> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in a
few
> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also there's
the
> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
> >
> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
> > radiator,
> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
> > evidence
> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

Hi:

The weep hole is part way in the pulley, so the water will run back, down
the body of the pump.

I hope this helps.

RK
"StarMan" <NOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:V9iRi.5142$5c.789@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Hello and thanks
>
> As far as I can tell, the water is actually leaking RIGHT OUT of the water
> pump (I need to look at the diagram again to ensure I have it ID'd right
> but
> I'm pretty sure). I can't tell if it's coming out of a weep hole or not,
> but the water I add, when it gets full, seems to pour right out of the
> water
> pump, where it connects with the engine, drips down onto the main drive
> wheel which drives the belt, then onto the ground.
>
> When you say "head gasket" or "cracked head", I confess to getting
> concerned. But how would I tell if it's the carbon seal of the water pump
> or something much worse?
>
> As I mentioned, the water drips out when the rad gets filled but I can't
> ID
> just where.
>
> I can't see where any of the hoses are leaking, when I've looked further.
>
>
>
>
> "Refinish King" <Julio572004 DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:zvcRi.4242$2h2.1511@trndny01...
>> Hi:
>>
>> The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than likely
> the
>> thermostat.
>>
>> Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have combustion
>> leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the cooling
>> system.
>>
>> Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.
>>
>> The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The hole
> is
>> there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks through the
>> hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> RK
>> "StarMan" <NOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
>> >
>> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my
> heat.
>> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't
>> > worried
>> > much about that alone.
>> >
>> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but then
> fall
>> > to 200 suddenly.
>> >
>> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump down
>> > below.
>> >
>> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water
> pump
>> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in a
> few
>> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also there's
> the
>> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
>> >
>> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
>> > radiator,
>> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
>> > evidence
>> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

Right, which I understand.

But how can I tell if there's any problem with the HEAD?




"Refinish King" <Julio572004 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%nwRi.8112$hI1.390@trndny06...
> Hi:
>
> The weep hole is part way in the pulley, so the water will run back, down
> the body of the pump.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> RK
> "StarMan" <NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:V9iRi.5142$5c.789@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> > Hello and thanks
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the water is actually leaking RIGHT OUT of the
water
> > pump (I need to look at the diagram again to ensure I have it ID'd right
> > but
> > I'm pretty sure). I can't tell if it's coming out of a weep hole or
not,
> > but the water I add, when it gets full, seems to pour right out of the
> > water
> > pump, where it connects with the engine, drips down onto the main drive
> > wheel which drives the belt, then onto the ground.
> >
> > When you say "head gasket" or "cracked head", I confess to getting
> > concerned. But how would I tell if it's the carbon seal of the water
pump
> > or something much worse?
> >
> > As I mentioned, the water drips out when the rad gets filled but I can't
> > ID
> > just where.
> >
> > I can't see where any of the hoses are leaking, when I've looked
further.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Refinish King" <Julio572004 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:zvcRi.4242$2h2.1511@trndny01...
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than likely
> > the
> >> thermostat.
> >>
> >> Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have combustion
> >> leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the cooling
> >> system.
> >>
> >> Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.
> >>
> >> The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The
hole
> > is
> >> there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks through
the
> >> hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps.
> >>
> >> RK
> >> "StarMan" <NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
> >> >
> >> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my
> > heat.
> >> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't
> >> > worried
> >> > much about that alone.
> >> >
> >> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but then
> > fall
> >> > to 200 suddenly.
> >> >
> >> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump
down
> >> > below.
> >> >
> >> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water
> > pump
> >> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in a
> > few
> >> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also there's
> > the
> >> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
> >> >
> >> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
> >> > radiator,
> >> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
> >> > evidence
> >> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

You'd need a cooling system pressure tester:

You make sure the cooling system is full, start the car until it warms up,
then pump the pressure tester to 15Lbs. Let it keep running. If it goes over
the red zone on the gauge, you have a head or head gasket problem.

Although, it's not that easy, a bad thermostat can make the pressure build
up quickly and go high.

RK
"StarMan" <NOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CpyRi.7928$m8.667@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> Right, which I understand.
>
> But how can I tell if there's any problem with the HEAD?
>
>
>
>
> "Refinish King" <Julio572004.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%nwRi.8112$hI1.390@trndny06...
>> Hi:
>>
>> The weep hole is part way in the pulley, so the water will run back, down
>> the body of the pump.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> RK
>> "StarMan" <NOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:V9iRi.5142$5c.789@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>> > Hello and thanks
>> >
>> > As far as I can tell, the water is actually leaking RIGHT OUT of the
> water
>> > pump (I need to look at the diagram again to ensure I have it ID'd
>> > right
>> > but
>> > I'm pretty sure). I can't tell if it's coming out of a weep hole or
> not,
>> > but the water I add, when it gets full, seems to pour right out of the
>> > water
>> > pump, where it connects with the engine, drips down onto the main drive
>> > wheel which drives the belt, then onto the ground.
>> >
>> > When you say "head gasket" or "cracked head", I confess to getting
>> > concerned. But how would I tell if it's the carbon seal of the water
> pump
>> > or something much worse?
>> >
>> > As I mentioned, the water drips out when the rad gets filled but I
>> > can't
>> > ID
>> > just where.
>> >
>> > I can't see where any of the hoses are leaking, when I've looked
> further.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Refinish King" <Julio572004.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:zvcRi.4242$2h2.1511@trndny01...
>> >> Hi:
>> >>
>> >> The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than
>> >> likely
>> > the
>> >> thermostat.
>> >>
>> >> Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have combustion
>> >> leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the cooling
>> >> system.
>> >>
>> >> Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.
>> >>
>> >> The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The
> hole
>> > is
>> >> there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks through
> the
>> >> hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> RK
>> >> "StarMan" <NOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
>> >> >
>> >> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with my
>> > heat.
>> >> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't
>> >> > worried
>> >> > much about that alone.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but
>> >> > then
>> > fall
>> >> > to 200 suddenly.
>> >> >
>> >> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump
> down
>> >> > below.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my water
>> > pump
>> >> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then in
>> >> > a
>> > few
>> >> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also
>> >> > there's
>> > the
>> >> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
>> >> >
>> >> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
>> >> > radiator,
>> >> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
>> >> > evidence
>> >> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL 

Well, I can't exactly get the cooling system full when it keeping leaking
out the bottom of the water pump LOL

So I guess you're telling me that no matter, WHAT, I have to FIRST address
the leaking water pump. I imagine that's the problem, anyway, since I've
heard head gasket problems bad enough to cause water to pour out would also
be smoking like it was on fire

Thanks.



"Refinish King" <Julio572004.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:z_RRi.5823$2h2.181@trndny01...
> You'd need a cooling system pressure tester:
>
> You make sure the cooling system is full, start the car until it warms up,
> then pump the pressure tester to 15Lbs. Let it keep running. If it goes
over
> the red zone on the gauge, you have a head or head gasket problem.
>
> Although, it's not that easy, a bad thermostat can make the pressure build
> up quickly and go high.
>
> RK
> "StarMan" <NOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CpyRi.7928$m8.667@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> > Right, which I understand.
> >
> > But how can I tell if there's any problem with the HEAD?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Refinish King" <Julio572004.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:%nwRi.8112$hI1.390@trndny06...
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> The weep hole is part way in the pulley, so the water will run back,
down
> >> the body of the pump.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps.
> >>
> >> RK
> >> "StarMan" <NOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:V9iRi.5142$5c.789@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> >> > Hello and thanks
> >> >
> >> > As far as I can tell, the water is actually leaking RIGHT OUT of the
> > water
> >> > pump (I need to look at the diagram again to ensure I have it ID'd
> >> > right
> >> > but
> >> > I'm pretty sure). I can't tell if it's coming out of a weep hole or
> > not,
> >> > but the water I add, when it gets full, seems to pour right out of
the
> >> > water
> >> > pump, where it connects with the engine, drips down onto the main
drive
> >> > wheel which drives the belt, then onto the ground.
> >> >
> >> > When you say "head gasket" or "cracked head", I confess to getting
> >> > concerned. But how would I tell if it's the carbon seal of the water
> > pump
> >> > or something much worse?
> >> >
> >> > As I mentioned, the water drips out when the rad gets filled but I
> >> > can't
> >> > ID
> >> > just where.
> >> >
> >> > I can't see where any of the hoses are leaking, when I've looked
> > further.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Refinish King" <Julio572004.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:zvcRi.4242$2h2.1511@trndny01...
> >> >> Hi:
> >> >>
> >> >> The temperature fluctuating from 300 to 260 degrees is more than
> >> >> likely
> >> > the
> >> >> thermostat.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alternatively, if your heater core isn't plugged. You have
combustion
> >> >> leaking from a head gasket or a cracked head, leaking into the
cooling
> >> >> system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Causing a cool air bubble in the heater core.
> >> >>
> >> >> The water pump, is most likely leaking from the lower weep hole. The
> > hole
> >> > is
> >> >> there so when the carbon seal deteriorates, the coolant leaks
through
> > the
> >> >> hole, rather than pissing through the bearing.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> RK
> >> >> "StarMan" <NOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0z%Qi.4168$E7.3896@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> > My Z28 has a bit of a leak in the coolant system.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However before this particular leak began, I've had problems with
my
> >> > heat.
> >> >> > Namely, I don't HAVE much. Being from a warm climate, I haven't
> >> >> > worried
> >> >> > much about that alone.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, however, I find my temp will suddenly skyrocket to 260, but
> >> >> > then
> >> > fall
> >> >> > to 200 suddenly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When I replaced my belt, I saw what looked like a "wet" water pump
> > down
> >> >> > below.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have yet to get under to see just where the current leak is.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyway - any ideas if this sound s like just a HOSE? Or is my
water
> >> > pump
> >> >> > suspect? I wonder about the pump, since the temp shoots up then
in
> >> >> > a
> >> > few
> >> >> > seconds goes down 50 deg or more. Maybe a pump failing? Also
> >> >> > there's
> >> > the
> >> >> > lack of HEAT inside the car.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I know I need to replace a hose, since when I put in water to the
> >> >> > radiator,
> >> >> > it poured out once I filled it. The question is - is there enough
> >> >> > evidence
> >> >> > to go ahead and replace the water pump?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Water pump? Or am I just to be "hosed"? LOL