WARNING LIGHTS (PICTURES)

AFAIK In the USA the '99 Jettas come with the VR6 and are different engines
than the V6 engines. I am not sure if that engine takes the earlier coil
pack or the later coil pack. The later one costs around $450 or so from the
dealer = ain't cheap.

I have successfully repaired one off of a '01 GTi VR6 engine with a $5.00
tube of epoxy and some time.
and looks like this one somewhat.
http://www.gtishrine.com/coilpack.php
more info here
http://www.gti-vr6.net/library/engine/fixing_cracked_coiled_pack.html
Or have you replaced it already?

ross-tech.com sells a scanner for our VWs that will let you expertly read
the codes, clear the codes and do other things on your car such as diagnose
problems. There are imitators that sell obsolete style copies on Ebay
pretty cheap like for $25 or so. Then you can try out the ross-tech.com
software free before you purchase it for $99. It does not limited functions
though but it allows you to test your scanner with your car.
Either should give you better results than going to an Autozone or other
place that just pulls the codes with little other information.
You might need a laptop or a tool that allows you to have a very long
extension coming from your desktop. lol

BTW your description of how the lights come and go sound about right, except
for the one that stays on!

JMHO
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


<vwowner RemoveThis @jetta.com> wrote in message news:45E51BB0.F189C269@jetta.com...
> First of all, this question pertains to a 1999 Jetta V-6:
>
> When I insert the key, and turn the ignition switch to position 2
> (ignition on), all the warning light pictures on the display panel come
> on briefly, then go off. That is, all but 3: Check engine,
> Generator/battery, and EPC. Turning the key to position 3 (starter
> engages) the engine starts, and the key automatically returns to
> position 2. Now the only thing displaying on the panel is the check
> engine light.
>
> My question is this:
> Does the display of the Generator/battery and EPC lights for those few
> seconds indicate a problem, or should I ignore this? If it is a problem,
> what is the solution (and $$$) that I can expect?
>
> FYI: The check engine light has been on since May of 03 when an
> intermittent shorting of an ignition coil was noted in a read of the
> fault codes (for $25.00), in damp weather. Cost to replace: probably
> over $600. today, and now they ask over $100. for the dealer to just
> read the codes. And as far as I can find out, there is no recall on
> these '99 coils. (And to whoever said that the check engine light will
> clear if it is on long enough, I say "no way.")
>
> Mike (just another Jetta owner)
>
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Thanks Dave for the info. I'll pass it on to the "car person" in the family,
thought I don't know if I want him fiddling with my VW. Of course, it would be a
whole lot better than me fiddling. I was thinking that maybe a junk yard might
be a good place to look for a coil --- if you could tell that you're getting
what you need, and that it too wasn't shorted out. And you're right --- its a
US (actually made in Mexico) 99 Jetta GLS VR6.
Mike


dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

> AFAIK In the USA the '99 Jettas come with the VR6 and are different engines
> than the V6 engines. I am not sure if that engine takes the earlier coil
> pack or the later coil pack. The later one costs around $450 or so from the
> dealer = ain't cheap.
>
> I have successfully repaired one off of a '01 GTi VR6 engine with a $5.00
> tube of epoxy and some time.
> and looks like this one somewhat.
> http://www.gtishrine.com/coilpack.php
> more info here
> http://www.gti-vr6.net/library/engine/fixing_cracked_coiled_pack.html
> Or have you replaced it already?
>
> ross-tech.com sells a scanner for our VWs that will let you expertly read
> the codes, clear the codes and do other things on your car such as diagnose
> problems. There are imitators that sell obsolete style copies on Ebay
> pretty cheap like for $25 or so. Then you can try out the ross-tech.com
> software free before you purchase it for $99. It does not limited functions
> though but it allows you to test your scanner with your car.
> Either should give you better results than going to an Autozone or other
> place that just pulls the codes with little other information.
> You might need a laptop or a tool that allows you to have a very long
> extension coming from your desktop. lol
>
> BTW your description of how the lights come and go sound about right, except
> for the one that stays on!
>
> JMHO
> later,
> dave
> (One out of many daves)
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lol
If you are taking it off your car to replace it with a USED one, you might
as well just take it off, epoxy it and reinstall it. Save yourself maybe
$50-250 (used prices?) or so, it is easy and almost free.
BTW I would not really trust a junkyard one since it may only last just past
the warranty period.

read the list of some of the others with failed coil packs
http://www.gti-vr6.net/library/engine/coil_pack_failures.html

--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


<vwowner.TakeThisOut@jetta.com> wrote in message news:45E7ADA0.31EA369C@jetta.com...
> Thanks Dave for the info. I'll pass it on to the "car person" in the
> family,
> thought I don't know if I want him fiddling with my VW. Of course, it
> would be a
> whole lot better than me fiddling. I was thinking that maybe a junk yard
> might
> be a good place to look for a coil --- if you could tell that you're
> getting
> what you need, and that it too wasn't shorted out. And you're right ---
> its a
> US (actually made in Mexico) 99 Jetta GLS VR6.
> Mike
>
>
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
>> AFAIK In the USA the '99 Jettas come with the VR6 and are different
>> engines
>> than the V6 engines. I am not sure if that engine takes the earlier coil
>> pack or the later coil pack. The later one costs around $450 or so from
>> the
>> dealer = ain't cheap.
>>
>> I have successfully repaired one off of a '01 GTi VR6 engine with a $5.00
>> tube of epoxy and some time.
>> and looks like this one somewhat.
>> http://www.gtishrine.com/coilpack.php
>> more info here
>> http://www.gti-vr6.net/library/engine/fixing_cracked_coiled_pack.html
>> Or have you replaced it already?
>>
>> ross-tech.com sells a scanner for our VWs that will let you expertly read
>> the codes, clear the codes and do other things on your car such as
>> diagnose
>> problems. There are imitators that sell obsolete style copies on Ebay
>> pretty cheap like for $25 or so. Then you can try out the ross-tech.com
>> software free before you purchase it for $99. It does not limited
>> functions
>> though but it allows you to test your scanner with your car.
>> Either should give you better results than going to an Autozone or other
>> place that just pulls the codes with little other information.
>> You might need a laptop or a tool that allows you to have a very long
>> extension coming from your desktop. lol
>>
>> BTW your description of how the lights come and go sound about right,
>> except
>> for the one that stays on!
 >> Stay informed about: WARNING LIGHTS (PICTURES) 

<vwowner DeleteThis @jetta.com> wrote in message news:45E51BB0.F189C269@jetta.com...
> First of all, this question pertains to a 1999 Jetta V-6:
>
> When I insert the key, and turn the ignition switch to position 2
> (ignition on), all the warning light pictures on the display panel come
> on briefly, then go off. That is, all but 3: Check engine,
> Generator/battery, and EPC. Turning the key to position 3 (starter
> engages) the engine starts, and the key automatically returns to
> position 2. Now the only thing displaying on the panel is the check
> engine light.
>
> My question is this:
> Does the display of the Generator/battery and EPC lights for those few
> seconds indicate a problem, or should I ignore this? If it is a problem,
> what is the solution (and $$$) that I can expect?

It's normal to tell you that the lights themselves are working...except for
the Check Engine light. That one staying illuminated means there's a fault
detected.

> FYI: The check engine light has been on since May of 03 when an
> intermittent shorting of an ignition coil was noted in a read of the
> fault codes (for $25.00), in damp weather. Cost to replace: probably
> over $600. today, and now they ask over $100. for the dealer to just
> read the codes. And as far as I can find out, there is no recall on
> these '99 coils.

I believe the coil recall was many 1.8T engines and 24V VR6 engines but not
the 12V VR6 engines (your '99 would be a 12V VR6).

>(And to whoever said that the check engine light will clear if it is on
>long enough, I say "no way.")

Yes and no. If the triggering problem comes and goes (like a random
misfire, or a loose fuel cap that you reinstall correctly), it'll go out
when the ECU is "satisfied" that enough time and start cycles has passed to
indicate that the triggering event was random and isn't an ongoing problem.

If it's an ongoing problem, yeah it'll stay on until it's solved. It
doesn't get "tired" of telling you there's a problem

Take the car to Autozone...I hear they read the codes for free. Start
there, get the fault code, and then google the code to see what you can find
out.
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