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Since: Apr 20, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:13 pm
Post subject: Viggen Oil Consumption
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I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:29 am
Post subject: Re: Viggen Oil Consumption [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Apr 21, 2:34 am, Eeyore
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> wrote:
> > I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
> > miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
> > oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
> > extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
> > it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
> > owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
> > this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
> > all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
> > thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
> > with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
>
> Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
>
> Not sure which Viggen models there are.
>
> Graham
It's a 9-3. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:34 am
Post subject: Re: Viggen Oil Consumption [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
> miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
> oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
> extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
> it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
> owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
> this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
> all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
> thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
> with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
Not sure which Viggen models there are.
Graham >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:00 am
Post subject: Re: Viggen Oil Consumption [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Apr 21, 9:50 am, Eeyore
wrote:
> wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > > wrote:
> > > > I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
> > > > miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
> > > > oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
> > > > extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
> > > > it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
> > > > owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
> > > > this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
> > > > all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
> > > > thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
> > > > with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
>
> > > Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
>
> > > Not sure which Viggen models there are.
>
> > > Graham
>
> > It's a 9-3.
>
> What I'd be concerned to know is the car's oil change (and general
> maintenance) history. Do you know when it last had a service ?
>
> Is it a V6 engine in that btw ? That's a GM unit rather than a true Saab. The
> real Saab only ever made the 4 cyl engines that are reknowned for longevity
> you see and even the more recent ones fitted in the 9-3 are now Saab modified
> GM units instead of the 'real' Saab blocks.
>
> Graham- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's a 4 cylinder, 2.3L, true Saab engine. I believe it was the 9-5
engine in the 9-3, with some other tweaks. >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:50 pm
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wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
> > > miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
> > > oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
> > > extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
> > > it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
> > > owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
> > > this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
> > > all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
> > > thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
> > > with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
> >
> > Not sure which Viggen models there are.
> >
> > Graham
>
> It's a 9-3.
What I'd be concerned to know is the car's oil change (and general
maintenance) history. Do you know when it last had a service ?
Is it a V6 engine in that btw ? That's a GM unit rather than a true Saab. The
real Saab only ever made the 4 cyl engines that are reknowned for longevity
you see and even the more recent ones fitted in the 9-3 are now Saab modified
GM units instead of the 'real' Saab blocks.
Graham >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:06 pm
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> Have you had issues with engines consuming oil at 36K miles?
Saabs generally should not consume much oil. Mine (a 9000) has 160k miles
on it and still doesn't burn much.
Graham >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:45 pm
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> On Apr 21, 9:50 am, Eeyore
> wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
>>>>> miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
>>>>> oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
>>>>> extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
>>>>> it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
>>>>> owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
>>>>> this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
>>>>> all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
>>>>> thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
>>>>> with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
>>>> Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
>>>> Not sure which Viggen models there are.
>>>> Graham
>>> It's a 9-3.
>> What I'd be concerned to know is the car's oil change (and general
>> maintenance) history. Do you know when it last had a service ?
>>
>> Is it a V6 engine in that btw ? That's a GM unit rather than a true Saab. The
>> real Saab only ever made the 4 cyl engines that are reknowned for longevity
>> you see and even the more recent ones fitted in the 9-3 are now Saab modified
>> GM units instead of the 'real' Saab blocks.
>>
>> Graham- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> It's a 4 cylinder, 2.3L, true Saab engine. I believe it was the 9-5
> engine in the 9-3, with some other tweaks.
Hi,
Look for obvious leaks and drips on the ground. Look for leaks round
the engine block esp. round the head. If the oil does not drip out then
it gets burned and you should walk away. If it leaks and you can see it
then you may consider what to do.
It probably shows the car has not been serviced as regularly as it
should have. So walk away.
Regards
Charles
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Viggen Oil Consumption [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Charles C." wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > On Apr 21, 9:50 am, Eeyore
> > wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>> Eeyore wrote:
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I just test drove a 2002 Viggen that I'm looking to buy that has 36K
> >>>>> miles on it. Everything checked out fine, except when I checked the
> >>>>> oil level on the dipstick it wasn't registering. The owner had an
> >>>>> extra quart, and when we put it in it went to the top of the range, so
> >>>>> it looks like it was exactly a quart low. What could cause this? The
> >>>>> owner was very reasonable, and understands that I would want to get
> >>>>> this checked out. He is getting me in touch with his dealer to go over
> >>>>> all the service records as a first step. I'd really appreciate any
> >>>>> thoughts that other Viggen owners have on this? Have you had issues
> >>>>> with engines consuming oil at 36K miles? Thanks for your help.
> >>>> Is that a 9-3 or a 9-5 ?
> >>>> Not sure which Viggen models there are.
> >>>> Graham
> >>> It's a 9-3.
> >> What I'd be concerned to know is the car's oil change (and general
> >> maintenance) history. Do you know when it last had a service ?
> >>
> >> Is it a V6 engine in that btw ? That's a GM unit rather than a true Saab. The
> >> real Saab only ever made the 4 cyl engines that are reknowned for longevity
> >> you see and even the more recent ones fitted in the 9-3 are now Saab modified
> >> GM units instead of the 'real' Saab blocks.
> >>
> >> Graham- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > It's a 4 cylinder, 2.3L, true Saab engine. I believe it was the 9-5
> > engine in the 9-3, with some other tweaks.
>
> Hi,
>
> Look for obvious leaks and drips on the ground. Look for leaks round
> the engine block esp. round the head. If the oil does not drip out then
> it gets burned and you should walk away. If it leaks and you can see it
> then you may consider what to do.
>
> It probably shows the car has not been serviced as regularly as it
> should have. So walk away.
It could also be the oil filter not fitted tight. The filter sits
downwards, so oil will sip out. There is always a balance between
tight fitting but not over tight fit. >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:17 pm
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Eeyore wrote:
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> wrote:
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> > Have you had issues with engines consuming oil at 36K miles?
>
> Saabs generally should not consume much oil. Mine (a 9000) has 160k miles
> on it and still doesn't burn much.
>
> Graham
Same here, 144k miles. >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:08 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:37 pm
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I have a 2001 Vigggen also and what I found out with 9-3 and 9-5 of these years especially the H.O.T. models, they had insufficient crankcase vent systems! there are kits that cost about $50 which replace some hoses and oil trap and pcv valves and new oil filler tube! >> Stay informed about: Viggen Oil Consumption |
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