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brunning2

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:22 pm
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> Opinions, please!

Hard to beat the reliability of a Toyota, hard to beat the feel and fun
of a VW. If I were considering the two you mentioned, I'd also be
looking at the Scion xB.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:22 pm
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> Opinions, please!

Hard to beat the reliability of a Toyota, hard to beat the feel and fun
of a VW. If I were considering the two you mentioned, I'd also be
looking at the Scion xB.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:25 pm
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"Brian Running" <brunning.DeleteThis@XXameritechXX.net> wrote in message
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>> My mechanic laughs when someone says VW. His intuition is spooky, so when
>> he laughs, I trust him.
>
> Hey, don't I know you from somewhere?

I've never heard of you, your law practice or your bass playing. You must be
thinking of someone else.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:25 pm
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"Brian Running" <brunning.DeleteThis@XXameritechXX.net> wrote in message
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>> My mechanic laughs when someone says VW. His intuition is spooky, so when
>> he laughs, I trust him.
>
> Hey, don't I know you from somewhere?

I've never heard of you, your law practice or your bass playing. You must be
thinking of someone else.
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Andrew Stephenson

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:41 pm
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In article <8XG6h.6474$0r.2883@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
bikingis.RemoveThis@my.fun "Papa" writes:

> My choice for a new car is the Toyota Prius. It is a FULL
> hybrid that has very low fuel consumption (the EPA combined
> city/highway rating is 55 mpg). [...]

At the risk of repeating myself (and others): do take those EPA
figures with a bucket of salt. Since the beginning of Aug '05,
I have managed 52mpgUK (winter) to 57mpgUK (summer), with a few
excursions to either side in odd circumstances. My dealer says
the usual figure is around 56 mpgUK. Multiply mpgUK by 0.8 for
mpgUS, IIRC.

BTW the other day someone here said that highway driving speeds
limit the Prius' advantage (words to that effect). I find that
the inherently greater efficiency of the petrol engine keeps up
a good mpg, even over hours of motorway (US:freeway/interstate)
driving at speed. No figures to hand, though. While in the US
this past summer, I saw plenty of Priuses -- common as rats, at
times -- many of which were doing a hearty rate of knots on I-5
(better than the POS Chrysler Sebring [see past discussions] my
luck had lumbering me with, at least. <g>)
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:41 pm
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In article <8XG6h.6474$0r.2883@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
bikingis DeleteThis @my.fun "Papa" writes:

> My choice for a new car is the Toyota Prius. It is a FULL
> hybrid that has very low fuel consumption (the EPA combined
> city/highway rating is 55 mpg). [...]

At the risk of repeating myself (and others): do take those EPA
figures with a bucket of salt. Since the beginning of Aug '05,
I have managed 52mpgUK (winter) to 57mpgUK (summer), with a few
excursions to either side in odd circumstances. My dealer says
the usual figure is around 56 mpgUK. Multiply mpgUK by 0.8 for
mpgUS, IIRC.

BTW the other day someone here said that highway driving speeds
limit the Prius' advantage (words to that effect). I find that
the inherently greater efficiency of the petrol engine keeps up
a good mpg, even over hours of motorway (US:freeway/interstate)
driving at speed. No figures to hand, though. While in the US
this past summer, I saw plenty of Priuses -- common as rats, at
times -- many of which were doing a hearty rate of knots on I-5
(better than the POS Chrysler Sebring [see past discussions] my
luck had lumbering me with, at least. <g>)
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Andrew Stephenson
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B A R R Y

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:55 pm
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WT wrote:
>
> Opinions, please!
>

How did they compare when you test drove them?
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B A R R Y

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:55 pm
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WT wrote:
>
> Opinions, please!
>

How did they compare when you test drove them?
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JoeSpareBedroom

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(Msg. 39) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:18 pm
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of
> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership.
> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai,
> even Kia--but not Volkswagon.
>


Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and 23.
From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:18 pm
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of
> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership.
> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai,
> even Kia--but not Volkswagon.
>


Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and 23.
From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:18 pm
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> Built_Well wrote:
>
>> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of
>> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership.
>> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai,
>> even Kia--but not Volkswagon.
>>
>
>
> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and 23.
> From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
=====

Would you believe the nearest Volkswagon dealership is 100 miles away
in St. Louis. I can understand Lexus being 100 miles away, but not
VW.

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B A R R Y

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(Msg. 42) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:39 pm
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and 23.
> From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
>


They'll be the ones passing in the breakdown lane @ 70 MPH, while never
missing a word on the cell. <G>
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:39 pm
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and 23.
> From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
>


They'll be the ones passing in the breakdown lane @ 70 MPH, while never
missing a word on the cell. <G>
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:40 pm
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"B A R R Y" <beech23pilot DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and
>> 23. From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
>
>
> They'll be the ones passing in the breakdown lane @ 70 MPH, while never
> missing a word on the cell. <G>

......while putting on lip gloss.
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:40 pm
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"B A R R Y" <beech23pilot.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and
>> 23. From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers.
>
>
> They'll be the ones passing in the breakdown lane @ 70 MPH, while never
> missing a word on the cell. <G>

......while putting on lip gloss.
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