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Mac Cool

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:55 am
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I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
burner.

I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:55 am
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On Apr 16, 8:37 am, Mac Cool <M....DeleteThis@2cool.com> wrote:
> I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
> my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
> burner.
>
> I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
> have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?
>
> --
> Mac Cool

Does your software allow you to burn the CD as an "audio CD" as
opposed to an ISO9660 containing the MP3 files? Also, have you tried
burning at a slower speed such as 2x?

I have a 1997 built GPX CD player, and it handles CD-R's just fine so
long as I follow the above two steps. An audio CD won't allow you to
have as many songs, but just might make the difference.

-KM

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Ken Weitzel

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:55 am
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Mac Cool wrote:
> I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
> my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
> burner.
>
> I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
> have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?

Hi Mac...

Not a mechanic, just an old retired electrical guy... maybe in
this case a bit of an advantage Smile

In either case - don't know your Pioneer burner at all, but are
you remembering to finalize the cd? (your car and home players,
unlike your computer, can't play .wav's that aren't)

Are you burning at the lowest possible speed?

Just a couple of thoughts, for whatever little they may be
worth.

Take care.

Ken
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:46 pm
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i have, get rid of the pos chrysler radio and get a nice pioneer headunit

Mac Cool wrote:

> I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
> my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
> burner.
>
> I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
> have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?
>
> --
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:55 pm
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kmatheson.RemoveThis@sisna.com:

> Does your software allow you to burn the CD as an "audio CD"

Yep, check the thread title.

I've tried as slow as 24x. I'll try a really slow burn and see if it
helps.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:00 am
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"Mac Cool" <Mac.DeleteThis@2cool.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99146C20AEFCEMacCool@130.133.1.4...
> I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
> my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
> burner.
>
> I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
> have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?
>
> --
> Mac Cool


Some recordable compact disc media, such as CD-R and CD-RW, may not comply
with the standard CD format used in automotive CD players. When these CD's
are used, you may encounter error messages, skipping, or delaminating of the
labels, which can cause an eject failure. It is important to question
whether these kinds of CD media are being used. When you encounter these
symptoms, check the system with a known playable CD. the media may not be
compatible with some automotive CD players.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:54 am
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On Apr 17, 8:32 am, Mac Cool <M....TakeThisOut@2cool.com> wrote:
> philthy:
>
> > i have, get rid of the pos chrysler radio and get a nice pioneer
> > headunit
>
> Nothing wrong with the head unit and it's far from a POS. Pioneer would be
> no better.
>
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> Mac Cool

Since your old CD burner worked okay, have you tried Pioneer support
to see if they have any suggestions? At what speed did you burn CD's
on your older burner?

-KM
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:55 am
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maxpower:

> Some recordable compact disc media, such as CD-R and CD-RW, may not
> comply with the standard CD format used in automotive CD players.

Read the OP.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:55 am
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philthy:

> i have, get rid of the pos chrysler radio and get a nice pioneer
> headunit

Nothing wrong with the head unit and it's far from a POS. Pioneer would be
no better.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:46 pm
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HI "Mac".

Been there, done that many times before - allbeit not with car audio.

However, since you point out that your OLD burner worked and your NEW
burner does NOT work, $10 says that the firmware in your new burner is
no good.

I have run across this with both HP and LG cd burners before. Try and
burn an audio CD, and it wont play in a genuine non-computer "CD
player".

Presuming that you are using WinXP:

On your computer, right-clikc on "My Computer" and select "Properties"

Click on the "Hardware" tab

Click the "Device Manager" Button

There should be a linetitled "DVD/CD-ROM Drives".

Click on the "+" to expand it.

Right-click on your Pioeneer drive and select "Properties"

Click on the "Details" tab.

You will see a string appear. On my system the string is this:

"DE\CDROMHL-DT-ST_CD-RW_GCE8525B____________________1.05____________"

The "1.05" is the firmware revision of the firmware in my LG 8525B CD
burner.

Now that you know the revision of the firmware in your Pioneer burner,
go to the Pioneer web site and see if you can download a newer version
of firmware. If you cannot download one, then contact tech support
directly and tell them your model and firmware revision, and that you
are having inter-player compatibility problems.

Again $10 says that there is a firmware upgrade that will fix this.

HP actually deliberately, knoingly, and willfully shipped players
which they knew did not work properly to keep the cash-flow going
until they could make a patch available. This happened on a couple of
machines here at work years ago. When I contacted them, they admitted
that they had "found a problem", and provided me with a firmware
upgrade and installation instructions at "no charge".

I had this problem with and LG drive in the past, and another fellow
on the car audio newsgroup had the exact same problem. He was more
frustrated than you are, and whene did as I suggested and installed
thelatest firmware from the LG site, it started working properly!

WARNING: Updating the firmware of most CD drives is a risky and trick
business. Not sure about Pioneer, but the LG drives MUST be installed
on the PRIMARY IDE channel, and MUST be the "Master" drive. I STRONGLY
recommend that you make DOS boot disks, download the firmware upgrade,
and then remove all hard drives from the system. Boot to DOS, and THEN
flash your firmware. After this, reconnect your hard drive and boot
the system.

This is the voice of experience! Having done this for the first time,
the upgrade software that was provided by LG actually trashed my hard
drive partitions! Fortunately, being the anal sort that I am, I had
antoher drive with ghosted back-ups, so I only lost a days work as a
result. Smile

Double check the hardware device manager to make sure the WinXP system
registers the updated firmware revision.

Then burn and finalize an audio CD-R. THEN try that in your car deck.

Again $10 says this will work if you have done all correctly.

Please let me know how it goes.

Smile


On 16 Apr 2007 14:37:30 GMT, Mac Cool <Mac.RemoveThis@2cool.com> wrote:

>I have a '99 Sebring jxi and it doesn't want to play audio cdr burned with
>my new Pioneer 111D burner; it will play audio cdrs burned with my old
>burner.
>
>I've tried computer groups, software groups and now here. No one seems to
>have heard of a similiar problem before. Any ideas, similiar experiences?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:55 am
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In article <91fa231baf1sdc0cdvopsttlch0uc810e2 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
NewMan <CloakedRun2001 RemoveThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Presuming that you are using WinXP:

TIP: He's "MAC" at Mac Cool <Mac RemoveThis @2cool.com> .

Your tips are much simpler for a Mac, same idea though.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:55 am
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NewMan:

> I sincerely hope this helps him.

I haven't worked through it all yet. The firmware I have now, 1.29, is the
latest firmware available. I needed it to burn some DVD+R DL that I
bought. I haven't tried contacting Pioneer yet. What I think I might try
instead is to reinstall my old burner in place of my DVD-ROM. I have read
that having two burners on the same BUS can cause problems even if you
aren't using them at the same time but it can't hurt to try.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:55 am
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I have heard before that DVD burners do not always do a good job at
burning CDs. Yeah, they are SUPPOSED to work....

Let us know how it goes.

On 20 Apr 2007 04:17:49 GMT, Mac Cool <Mac.RemoveThis@2cool.com> wrote:

>NewMan:
>
>> I sincerely hope this helps him.
>
>I haven't worked through it all yet. The firmware I have now, 1.29, is the
>latest firmware available. I needed it to burn some DVD+R DL that I
>bought. I haven't tried contacting Pioneer yet. What I think I might try
>instead is to reinstall my old burner in place of my DVD-ROM. I have read
>that having two burners on the same BUS can cause problems even if you
>aren't using them at the same time but it can't hurt to try.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:14 am
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Mac G:

>> Presuming that you are using WinXP:
>
> TIP: He's "MAC" at Mac Cool <Mac DeleteThis @2cool.com> .
>
> Your tips are much simpler for a Mac, same idea though.

Heh, I never made that connection before. I'm using XP. The Mac Cool is
from Irish mythology.
http://www.mth.kcl.ac.uk/~tcoolen/finn/maccool.htm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:55 pm
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NewMan:

> I have heard before that DVD burners do not always do a good job at
> burning CDs. Yeah, they are SUPPOSED to work....

The Pioneer I have is very highly regarded for audio CDs which only serves
to increase my bafflement.

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