Toyota to recall 600,000 Sienna minivans

It is called Toyotas "Recall of the week." Toyota is finally doing what
the law requires them to do, to avoid another $16,000,000 fine by the NHTSA.




"me" wrote in message

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
> wrote:
>
>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
>>pinata being beaten.
>
> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
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"me" wrote in message

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
> wrote:
>
>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
>>pinata being beaten.
>
> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
-
I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust ONLY
on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like a
pinata?
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On Apr 22, 11:03 am, "Wayne" wrote:
> "me" wrote in message
>
> news:iiuus55u5uohh250m0gudqr4i2rae9649i@4ax.com...> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
> > wrote:
>
> >>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands.  But Toyota is the current
> >>pinata being beaten.
>
> > Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> > do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>
> -
> I'm not following your response.  Are you saying that spare cables rust ONLY
> on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like a
> pinata?

Lately it seems Toyota is being beaten like a pinata.

As far as I know these spare tire cables have a significant failure
rate no matter who uses them. I have to wonder if maybe becasue of
some unmentioned factor(s), Siennas have an unusally severe problem
with cable failure. Maybe the location of the cable, or the design of
the underside of the van exposes the cable to more salt than tpyical
for other vehicles using cables. I've never had a cable fail, but I
did have the cable winding mechanism jam on an older Ford. I prefer
the style of spare tire carrier that uses a metal frame that you tilt
down to remove the tire. On the other hand, I so rarely need to use a
spare, I almost don't care if I have one.

Ed
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More likely it is the inferior Nippon steel that is used to make the cables,
the same reason Toyota truck frames are prematurely rusting and resulting in
recalls.


"Ed White" wrote in message

On Apr 22, 11:03 am, "Wayne" wrote:
> "me" wrote in message
>
> news:iiuus55u5uohh250m0gudqr4i2rae9649i@4ax.com...> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010
> 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
> > wrote:
>
> >>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
> >>pinata being beaten.
>
> > Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
> > do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>
> -
> I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust
> ONLY
> on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like
> a
> pinata?

Lately it seems Toyota is being beaten like a pinata.

As far as I know these spare tire cables have a significant failure
rate no matter who uses them. I have to wonder if maybe becasue of
some unmentioned factor(s), Siennas have an unusally severe problem
with cable failure. Maybe the location of the cable, or the design of
the underside of the van exposes the cable to more salt than tpyical
for other vehicles using cables. I've never had a cable fail, but I
did have the cable winding mechanism jam on an older Ford. I prefer
the style of spare tire carrier that uses a metal frame that you tilt
down to remove the tire. On the other hand, I so rarely need to use a
spare, I almost don't care if I have one.

Ed
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 >> Stay informed about: Toyota to recall 600,000 Sienna minivans 

That may be your opinion but actually auto manufacturers are required by law
to notify the NHTSA of safety problem within five business days after
becoming "aware" of the problem and then issue a recall. That was why
Toyota was fined $16,000,000 for delaying the "unintended acceleration"
problem


"me" wrote in message

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:03:31 -0700, "Wayne"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"me" wrote in message
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
>>>>pinata being beaten.
>>>
>>> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
>>> do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>>-
>>I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust
>>ONLY
>>on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like
>>a
>>pinata?
>>
>
> I'm saying that you're moaning about Toyota being a pinata - but in
> this case they did the recall of their own accord. No one ordered them
> to do it. The pinata whine doesn't hold water.
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:27:55 -0400, me wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:03:31 -0700, "Wayne"
> wrote:
>
>
>>"me" wrote in message
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the
>>>>current pinata being beaten.
>>>
>>> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to do
>>> it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>>-
>>I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust
>>ONLY on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being
>>beaten like a pinata?
>>
>>
> I'm saying that you're moaning about Toyota being a pinata - but in this
> case they did the recall of their own accord. No one ordered them to do
> it. The pinata whine doesn't hold water.

Of course it does. Every day there's a media story about Toyota. You'd
think Toyota would pull some advertising in retribution. NBC leads the
list.

With the US government in the car business, wouldn't it make sense to beat
down your biggest rival?
 >> Stay informed about: Toyota to recall 600,000 Sienna minivans 

"me" wrote in message

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:03:31 -0700, "Wayne"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"me" wrote in message
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:29:54 -0700, "Wayne"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope....same problem on lots of other brands. But Toyota is the current
>>>>pinata being beaten.
>>>
>>> Except that they did the recall themselves, they were NOT ordered to
>>> do it, so your whine doesn't hold water.
>>-
>>I'm not following your response. Are you saying that spare cables rust
>>ONLY
>>on Toyota vehicles, or are you saying that Toyota is not being beaten like
>>a
>>pinata?
>>
>
> I'm saying that you're moaning about Toyota being a pinata - but in
> this case they did the recall of their own accord. No one ordered them
> to do it. The pinata whine doesn't hold water.
-
As a former GM owner I am convinced that if the government applied the same
enthusiasm to examining GM products, there would be more problems uncovered
than with Toyota. I shutter each time I rent a car and end up with a GM
product.
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