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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:59 pm
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Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
on TDC. Any ideas or info?

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gjtms wrote:

> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
> I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
> marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
> on TDC. Any ideas or info?

Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This
term applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and
the valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be
aligned with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in
that position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank
and cam shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there
can't be any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with
a mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the
plugs on every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from
the crank sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing
from the cam shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to
have the plugs firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to
the compression strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster
though.

Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
flooded engine. Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good
time to do it. I would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been
done.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:14 am
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gjtms wrote:

> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
> I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
> marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
> on TDC. Any ideas or info?

Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This
term applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and
the valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be
aligned with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in
that position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank
and cam shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there
can't be any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with
a mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the
plugs on every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from
the crank sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing
from the cam shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to
have the plugs firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to
the compression strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster
though.

Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
flooded engine. Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good
time to do it. I would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been
done.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:14 am
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gjtms wrote:

> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
> I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
> marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
> on TDC. Any ideas or info?

Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This
term applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and
the valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be
aligned with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in
that position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank
and cam shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there
can't be any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with
a mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the
plugs on every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from
the crank sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing
from the cam shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to
have the plugs firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to
the compression strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster
though.

Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
flooded engine. Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good
time to do it. I would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been
done.
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gjtms wrote:

> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
> I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
> marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
> on TDC. Any ideas or info?

Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This
term applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and
the valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be
aligned with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in
that position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank
and cam shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there
can't be any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with
a mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the
plugs on every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from
the crank sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing
from the cam shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to
have the plugs firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to
the compression strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster
though.

Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
flooded engine. Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good
time to do it. I would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been
done.
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gjtms wrote:

> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How am
> I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when the
> marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set the crank
> on TDC. Any ideas or info?

Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This
term applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and
the valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be
aligned with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in
that position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank
and cam shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there
can't be any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with
a mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the
plugs on every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from
the crank sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing
from the cam shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to
have the plugs firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to
the compression strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster
though.

Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
flooded engine. Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good
time to do it. I would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been
done.
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"Fordfan" <Fordfan DeleteThis @bluesky.net> wrote in message
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> gjtms wrote:
>
>> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>> am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>> the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>> the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>
> Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
> applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
> valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
> pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
> with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
> position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
> shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
> any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
> mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
> every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
> sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
> shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
> firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
> strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>
> Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
> releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
> either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
> few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
> this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
> before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
> not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
> flooded engine.

Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
left in the intake or cylinders.
Bob

> Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good time to do it. I
> would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been done.
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"Fordfan" <Fordfan.RemoveThis@bluesky.net> wrote in message
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> gjtms wrote:
>
>> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>> am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>> the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>> the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>
> Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
> applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
> valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
> pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
> with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
> position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
> shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
> any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
> mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
> every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
> sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
> shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
> firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
> strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>
> Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
> releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
> either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
> few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
> this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
> before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
> not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
> flooded engine.

Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
left in the intake or cylinders.
Bob

> Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good time to do it. I
> would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been done.
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"Fordfan" <Fordfan DeleteThis @bluesky.net> wrote in message
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> gjtms wrote:
>
>> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>> am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>> the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>> the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>
> Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
> applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
> valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
> pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
> with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
> position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
> shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
> any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
> mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
> every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
> sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
> shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
> firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
> strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>
> Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
> releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
> either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
> few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
> this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
> before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
> not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
> flooded engine.

Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
left in the intake or cylinders.
Bob

> Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good time to do it. I
> would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been done.
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"Fordfan" <Fordfan.RemoveThis@bluesky.net> wrote in message
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> gjtms wrote:
>
>> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>> am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>> the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>> the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>
> Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
> applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
> valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
> pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
> with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
> position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
> shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
> any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
> mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
> every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
> sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
> shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
> firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
> strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>
> Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
> releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
> either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
> few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
> this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
> before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
> not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
> flooded engine.

Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
left in the intake or cylinders.
Bob

> Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good time to do it. I
> would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been done.
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"Fordfan" <Fordfan RemoveThis @bluesky.net> wrote in message
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> gjtms wrote:
>
>> Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>> am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>> the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>> the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>
> Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
> applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
> valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
> pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
> with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
> position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
> shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
> any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
> mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
> every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
> sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
> shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
> firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
> strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>
> Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
> releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
> either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
> few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
> this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
> before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
> not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
> flooded engine.

Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
left in the intake or cylinders.
Bob

> Did you also change the water pump? This would be a good time to do it. I
> would also change the belt tensioner if it's never been done.
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Bob wrote:
> "Fordfan" <Fordfan.DeleteThis@bluesky.net> wrote in message
> news:QL86h.2748$bj1.2560@trndny05...
>
>>gjtms wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>>>am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>>>the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>>>the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>>
>>Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
>>applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
>>valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
>>pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
>>with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
>>position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
>>shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
>>any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
>>mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
>>every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
>>sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
>>shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
>>firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
>>strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>>
>>Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
>>releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
>>either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
>>few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
>>this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
>>before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
>>not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
>>flooded engine.
>
>
> Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
> and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
> left in the intake or cylinders.
> Bob

Thanks for the correction. I don't know what I was thinking when I said
the ignition system is turned off. Smile
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Bob wrote:
> "Fordfan" <Fordfan DeleteThis @bluesky.net> wrote in message
> news:QL86h.2748$bj1.2560@trndny05...
>
>>gjtms wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>>>am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>>>the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>>>the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>>
>>Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
>>applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
>>valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
>>pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
>>with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
>>position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
>>shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
>>any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
>>mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
>>every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
>>sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
>>shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
>>firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
>>strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>>
>>Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
>>releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
>>either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
>>few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
>>this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
>>before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
>>not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
>>flooded engine.
>
>
> Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
> and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
> left in the intake or cylinders.
> Bob

Thanks for the correction. I don't know what I was thinking when I said
the ignition system is turned off. Smile
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Bob wrote:
> "Fordfan" <Fordfan DeleteThis @bluesky.net> wrote in message
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>
>>gjtms wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>>>am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>>>the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>>>the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>>
>>Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
>>applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
>>valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
>>pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
>>with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
>>position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
>>shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
>>any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
>>mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
>>every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
>>sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
>>shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
>>firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
>>strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>>
>>Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
>>releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
>>either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
>>few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
>>this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
>>before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
>>not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
>>flooded engine.
>
>
> Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
> and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
> left in the intake or cylinders.
> Bob

Thanks for the correction. I don't know what I was thinking when I said
the ignition system is turned off. Smile
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Bob wrote:
> "Fordfan" <Fordfan.DeleteThis@bluesky.net> wrote in message
> news:QL86h.2748$bj1.2560@trndny05...
>
>>gjtms wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here is another about my timing belt. 91 tracer with the 1.9 motor. How
>>>am I sure that the cam gear is set to TDC on #1? Can it be 180 out when
>>>the marks are aligned? I plan to use a compression gauge on #1 to set
>>>the crank on TDC. Any ideas or info?
>>
>>Technically speaking, the cam shaft doesn't have a TDC position. This term
>>applies to the crankshaft when the #1 piston is all the way up and the
>>valves are closed for that cylinder. The cam gear on your car has a
>>pointer or arrow cast into the webbing of the face. This should be aligned
>>with the mark on the head behind the gear. When the cam is in that
>>position, both valves are closed for the #1 cylinder. If the crank and cam
>>shafts are aligned accurately on their respective marks, there can't be
>>any phase error (180-deg) between them. Unlike older cars with a
>>mechanical distributor, the ignition system on your car fires the plugs on
>>every revolution of the crank because it gets it's timing from the crank
>>sensor not the cam shaft. The fuel injectors get their timing from the cam
>>shaft sensor. It doesn't affect the engine performance to have the plugs
>>firing on the top of the exhaust strokes in addition to the compression
>>strokes. I've wondered if the plugs wear a little faster though.
>>
>>Be sure to keep the belt taught on the forward (straight) side before
>>releasing the tensioner. This will insure that the belt won't skip on
>>either gear when the engine is started. It's best to crank the engine a
>>few turns without starting it, so the belt can seat properly. You can do
>>this on your Tracer by holding the gas pedal all the way to the floor
>>before and while you turn the key. The car's ignition system is designed
>>not to fire the plugs in this situation. It's a feature for clearing a
>>flooded engine.
>
>
> Holding the throttle wide open while cranking shuts down the fuel injectors
> and not the ignition system. The engine will start if any residual fuel is
> left in the intake or cylinders.
> Bob

Thanks for the correction. I don't know what I was thinking when I said
the ignition system is turned off. Smile
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