Welcome to AutoBoardz.com!
FAQFAQ      ProfileProfile    Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in

190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise

 
   AutoBoardz (Home) -> Mercedes-Benz -> Mercedes Benz 190E Forum RSS
Next:  206 tyre pressure  
Author Message
Scott Buchanan

External


Since: Dec 02, 2003
Posts: 123



(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:04 am
Post subject: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise
Archived from groups: alt>auto>mercedes (more info?)

1985 engine with single row timing chain.

The engine is from a wrecking yard with 103,000 miles. The timing chain and
cam gear are clean (no carbon-like build up) and there is red RTV around the
timing chain cover so I believe that the chain was replaced recently. I can
only assume that the chain guides were replaced too.

The problem it when the car is started the chain rattles loudly until the
oil pressure builds up. I am sure that it is not lifters making the noise.

My questions are: Should this be considered normal for this engine? Are
there any adjustments to fix this noise?


Thanks, Scott

 >> Stay informed about: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise 
Back to top
Login to vote
Tiger1

External


Since: Jan 07, 2004
Posts: 989



(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:26 pm
Post subject: Re: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Not normal... you need new timing chain tensioner.

 >> Stay informed about: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise 
Back to top
Login to vote
Karl3

External


Since: Dec 02, 2003
Posts: 421



(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:26 pm
Post subject: Re: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

A 2.3 chain tensioner has a ratchet in it. Unlike the V8 tensioner that are
just oil pressure controlled. As a 2.3 chain stretches, the tensioner comes
out to take up the slack but it cannot retract. When the tensioner reaches
the end of its clicks, it can extend and retract like a V8 tensioner. BUT at
this point your chain has stretched to its breaking point. You need to
replace the chain very soon!
To replace the tensioner, you will need a couple of big allen sockets. You
remove the center allen plug. Remove the spring. Remove the housing from the
timing cover. Pull the plunger out. To install: screw the housing into the
cover tight. Push the plunger in [the ratchet is the spring ring on the butt
end]. Install the spring. Put the end plug on the allen socket and PUSH HARD
to compress the spring AND turn the allen to start the threads. Have fun!


"Tiger" <tiger0002.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GA4%i.319$wR2.292@newsfe09.lga...
> Not normal... you need new timing chain tensioner.
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise 
Back to top
Login to vote
Scott Buchanan

External


Since: Dec 02, 2003
Posts: 123



(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:33 am
Post subject: Re: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Another project that I'll never have time for.

Since I think that the chain is fairly new, I'll start with the tensioner.
Is there anyway to test the chain for stretch? The P.O. might have used have
used a cheap chain.

Thanks for the info.



"Karl" <aufever RemoveThis @prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:U15%i.2838$0Q5.2007@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> A 2.3 chain tensioner has a ratchet in it. Unlike the V8 tensioner that
are
> just oil pressure controlled. As a 2.3 chain stretches, the tensioner
comes
> out to take up the slack but it cannot retract. When the tensioner reaches
> the end of its clicks, it can extend and retract like a V8 tensioner. BUT
at
> this point your chain has stretched to its breaking point. You need to
> replace the chain very soon!
> To replace the tensioner, you will need a couple of big allen sockets. You
> remove the center allen plug. Remove the spring. Remove the housing from
the
> timing cover. Pull the plunger out. To install: screw the housing into the
> cover tight. Push the plunger in [the ratchet is the spring ring on the
butt
> end]. Install the spring. Put the end plug on the allen socket and PUSH
HARD
> to compress the spring AND turn the allen to start the threads. Have fun!
>
>
> "Tiger" <tiger0002 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:GA4%i.319$wR2.292@newsfe09.lga...
> > Not normal... you need new timing chain tensioner.
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: 190E 2.3 Timing Chain Noise 
Back to top
Login to vote
Display posts from previous:   
Related Topics:
190E Ignition Timing - I want to check the ignition timing on my 190E engine. The manual shows using a scope and says nothing about timing light. I can't see any marks on the engine due to the tensioner assembly. Am I missing something? Can it be checked with a light? Thanks,...

1985 mercedes 190e timing mark picture - i need to know where to set the timing mark

190E oil pressure & tappet noise - I'm in the process of looking for a 190E. I've seen one that I think is a good one, but am a little concerned about a few things. On startup from (very) cold the tappets make a noise, but eventually disappears, certainly after getting warm. When warm th...

190E...A few questions - Hello to all, I have 1989 190E 2.6 that I have recently brought back to life. When the water pump went out a few years ago my wife had finally had enough and bought a new car prompting me to push this one away in the garage for the past 2 years. (I..

1984 190E 2.3 - All, My son has purchased a 1984 190E 2.3. Great little runner. Any way. Does anyone have any insights as to things to watch out for in this little guy? 2.3l motor 5sp manual Broken speedo and clock the wierdest single wiper I have seen. Thanks for....
   AutoBoardz (Home) -> Mercedes-Benz -> Mercedes Benz 190E Forum All times are: Pacific Time (US & Canada) (change)
Page 1 of 1

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



[ Contact us | Terms of Service/Privacy Policy ]