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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 125
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:17 am
Post subject: Switch in temp control Add to elertz Archived from groups: alt>autos>gm (more info?)
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I went out in this heat wave today to get a few things. When I left the
house,
it wasn't too bad, but in the timespan of an hour it got muggy. Muggy
enough
that I kicked on the AC. First time this year. In my 95 Grand Prix.
Anyway, it wasn't working that well, and I though I was going to have to
get a can of dye and start checking for leaks. Then I realized my
temperature
control wasn't solid off. As you turn it hot to cold, at the very coldest
there's
a detent that feels like it's activating a switch. Once I set it there,
cold air
flooded the car.
I'm pretty sure the AC was working even when the temp wasn't full cold, as
it was making the car comfortable and it was obviously drying it out.
But my question is, what is that switch/detent for in the control? MAYBE it
was just that I wasn't full cold and it was 'mixing' hot and cold like on
rainy
fall days when you run the AC more as a dehumidifier, but it sure felt like
a
massive change when I moved it today. >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Jan 31, 2005 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:17 am
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"Mike Y" <joe.DeleteThis@user.com> wrote in message news:8Ex2k.10$D07.3@newsfe05.lga...
> But my question is, what is that switch/detent for in the control? MAYBE
> it
> was just that I wasn't full cold and it was 'mixing' hot and cold like on
> rainy
> fall days when you run the AC more as a dehumidifier, but it sure felt
> like
> a
> massive change when I moved it today.
There is usually a Max(imum) cooling position on air conditioners. I
suspect this
is what you activated. Compressor runs, more or less, full time. If you
run with it
this way too long, your evaporator core might just ice up and you could lose
cooling
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 125
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:41 pm
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"HLS" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Mike Y" <joe RemoveThis @user.com> wrote in message
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> > But my question is, what is that switch/detent for in the control?
MAYBE
> > it
> > was just that I wasn't full cold and it was 'mixing' hot and cold like
on
> > rainy
> > fall days when you run the AC more as a dehumidifier, but it sure felt
> > like
> > a
> > massive change when I moved it today.
>
> There is usually a Max(imum) cooling position on air conditioners. I
> suspect this
> is what you activated. Compressor runs, more or less, full time. If you
> run with it
> this way too long, your evaporator core might just ice up and you could
lose
> cooling
> until it melts.
>
Actually, I have a separate "MAX" position. When in that position, the
evaporator draws air from the passenger compartment that is already cooled
and dried.
I was wondering if when the temp knob is in the full cool position it does
something that would keep hot coolant from even coming into the passenger
compartment. Is there a solenoid valve in the radiator hoses?
There is nothing in the manual about it. >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Jan 31, 2005 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:41 pm
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"Mike Y" <joe.RemoveThis@user.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if when the temp knob is in the full cool position it does
> something that would keep hot coolant from even coming into the passenger
> compartment. Is there a solenoid valve in the radiator hoses?
>
> There is nothing in the manual about it.
Dont know for sure on your application. On mine, that switch puts the
compressor
on, almost, full time.. There ARE safety switches that will cause the
compressor
to disengage, but it doesnt cycle the same was as it does on the other
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Since: Dec 04, 2007 Posts: 47
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:28 pm
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Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated with the
temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you are
feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully closing at
the cold end of the lever's travel.
"Mike Y" <joe RemoveThis @user.com> wrote in message news:8Ex2k.10$D07.3@newsfe05.lga...
>I went out in this heat wave today to get a few things. When I left the
> house,
> it wasn't too bad, but in the timespan of an hour it got muggy. Muggy
> enough
> that I kicked on the AC. First time this year. In my 95 Grand Prix.
>
> Anyway, it wasn't working that well, and I though I was going to have to
> get a can of dye and start checking for leaks. Then I realized my
> temperature
> control wasn't solid off. As you turn it hot to cold, at the very coldest
> there's
> a detent that feels like it's activating a switch. Once I set it there,
> cold air
> flooded the car.
>
> I'm pretty sure the AC was working even when the temp wasn't full cold, as
> it was making the car comfortable and it was obviously drying it out.
>
> But my question is, what is that switch/detent for in the control? MAYBE
> it
> was just that I wasn't full cold and it was 'mixing' hot and cold like on
> rainy
> fall days when you run the AC more as a dehumidifier, but it sure felt
> like
> a
> massive change when I moved it today.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 125
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:46 pm
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Ok, maybe. But I have to say that the temp control feels like nothing is
attached
to it at all. Like it's a VERY free-turning potentiometer... With an 'off'
switch
at full CCW.
Hmm, maybe it is!
Mike
"Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
> Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated with
the
> temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you are
> feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully closing at
> the cold end of the lever's travel.
>
> "Mike Y" <joe.TakeThisOut@user.com> wrote in message
news:8Ex2k.10$D07.3@newsfe05.lga...
> >I went out in this heat wave today to get a few things. When I left the
> > house,
> > it wasn't too bad, but in the timespan of an hour it got muggy. Muggy
> > enough
> > that I kicked on the AC. First time this year. In my 95 Grand Prix.
> >
> > Anyway, it wasn't working that well, and I though I was going to have to
> > get a can of dye and start checking for leaks. Then I realized my
> > temperature
> > control wasn't solid off. As you turn it hot to cold, at the very
coldest
> > there's
> > a detent that feels like it's activating a switch. Once I set it there,
> > cold air
> > flooded the car.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the AC was working even when the temp wasn't full cold,
as
> > it was making the car comfortable and it was obviously drying it out.
> >
> > But my question is, what is that switch/detent for in the control?
MAYBE
> > it
> > was just that I wasn't full cold and it was 'mixing' hot and cold like
on
> > rainy
> > fall days when you run the AC more as a dehumidifier, but it sure felt
> > like
> > a
> > massive change when I moved it today.
> >
> >
> >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:42 pm
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"Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
> Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated with
> the temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you
> are feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully
> closing at the cold end of the lever's travel.
Upon reflection, I began to suspect the same. Just a little opening or
cloture of those
divertor doors can make a big difference. Easier to comment if we were
there, I guess. >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 125
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:13 pm
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"HLS" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0Z6dnSlcqvveWNfVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
> > Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated with
> > the temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you
> > are feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully
> > closing at the cold end of the lever's travel.
>
> Upon reflection, I began to suspect the same. Just a little opening or
> cloture of those
> divertor doors can make a big difference. Easier to comment if we were
> there, I guess.
>
Well, I didn't pull the thing out, but it appears there's nothing but WIRES
attached to the module. One of these days it will bother me enough that
I'll have to pop it out just to see.
Right now I have another issue with the car... >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Dec 04, 2007 Posts: 47
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:26 pm
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Now I'm guessing that you have one of those electronic automatic temperature
controls in your machine instead of the sliding lever that manually
positions the temperature door. Maybe it does have a potentiometer to set
the temperature. The automatic control in my 2002 Oldsmobiles uses up and
down push buttons, but the passenger side control is a round knob on the
passenger door armrest.
Sure wish I had a service manual for that vintage vehicle. It's making me
curious as to what they might be doing with a switch at the cold end of the
temperature controller.
I take it from your other post that your butt is dragging the ground.
"Mike Y" <joe.RemoveThis@user.com> wrote in message
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> "HLS" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>> "Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:0Z6dnSlcqvveWNfVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
>> > Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated
>> > with
>> > the temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you
>> > are feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully
>> > closing at the cold end of the lever's travel.
>>
>> Upon reflection, I began to suspect the same. Just a little opening or
>> cloture of those
>> divertor doors can make a big difference. Easier to comment if we were
>> there, I guess.
>>
>
> Well, I didn't pull the thing out, but it appears there's nothing but
> WIRES
> attached to the module. One of these days it will bother me enough that
> I'll have to pop it out just to see.
>
> Right now I have another issue with the car...
>
>
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> >> Stay informed about: Switch in temp control |
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 125
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:08 am
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"Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I take it from your other post that your butt is dragging the ground.
>
Well, yes...
And more on one side than the other. I still have 'spring' action but not
very
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Since: Oct 30, 2007 Posts: 189
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:25 pm
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Mike Y wrote:
> "HLS" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.nix> wrote in message
> news:5RG2k.5235$jI5.3636@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> "Silver Surfer" <SilverSurfer.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:0Z6dnSlcqvveWNfVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Don't have the manual for your machine. Looked in the manual for a '94
>>> Oldsmobile Cutlass/Buick Century. There are no switches associated with
>>> the temperature lever in these vehicles. I suspect that the detent you
>>> are feeling is the resistance of the temperature control door fully
>>> closing at the cold end of the lever's travel.
>> Upon reflection, I began to suspect the same. Just a little opening or
>> cloture of those
>> divertor doors can make a big difference. Easier to comment if we were
>> there, I guess.
>>
>
> Well, I didn't pull the thing out, but it appears there's nothing but WIRES
> attached to the module. One of these days it will bother me enough that
> I'll have to pop it out just to see.
>
> Right now I have another issue with the car...
>
>
>
>
What you have is the standard electronic control board for the HVAC
system. Probably a relative to the ones used in the Malibu.
Something like this?
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/AC_ControllersAreRepairable.pdf
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:43 pm
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