Subject : Pictures Please - Ford 351 - Ford351C - Ford351W..

try typing into Google 351 windsor and I get 7600 pics.


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>> Hi,
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>> I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
>> Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
>> good engine pictures before restoration.
>>
>> Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
>> "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
>> Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
>>
>> Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
>> pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
>> pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
>>
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> Most of us will have the engine bolted up to a car, truck, or boat.
> Getting a shot of the engine standing alone is going to be very difficult.
>
> I could lift the hood and send a shot of the air cleaner, but somehow I
> think you've already got that shot.
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this guy is an idiot, and the web site sucks



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> Hi,
>
> I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
> Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
> good engine pictures before restoration.
>
> Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
> "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
> Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
>
> Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
> pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
> pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
>
> Images to pics DeleteThis @Ford351.com .
>
> Thanks
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Why should I do that? Maybe the OP ought to give it a whirl ...




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> try typing into Google 351 windsor and I get 7600 pics.
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>>> Repost:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
>>> Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
>>> good engine pictures before restoration.
>>>
>>> Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
>>> "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
>>> Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
>>>
>>> Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
>>> pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
>>> pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of us will have the engine bolted up to a car, truck, or boat.
>> Getting a shot of the engine standing alone is going to be very
>> difficult.
>>
>> I could lift the hood and send a shot of the air cleaner, but somehow I
>> think you've already got that shot.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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"TF" <flannery16.TakeThisOut@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> try typing into Google 351 windsor and I get 7600 pics.

Just because you can view that many doesnt mean you can copy and use them as
you see fit. Copyright comes into play here. Sounds like the OP is asking
for donations of images he can use on his web royalty free ie for free,
rather than stealing someone elses images.

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> On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:41 -0700, flrealbot rearranged some electrons to
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> Your web site is not only lame, but has incorrect information on it.
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> 351C and 351W are completely different engines.
>

I haven't been to the website, but everybody knows that the 351 Cleveland
and the 351 Windsor are as different as night and day. They are completely
different. That's C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y.

Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely page)
that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.

I forget which is which, but I recall that one is loosely based on the
289 -- its a small block motor -- and the other is based on the 429 -- which
is a large block (I think the Cleveland is the small block and the Windsor
is the large block). Obviously one would have to have a longer stroke as
compared to the other, causing the long stroke motor to run at lower RPMs.
The long stroke will produce more torque at the low end, but will top out
much sooner.

I gotta take a look at the website now ...
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>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:41 -0700, flrealbot rearranged some electrons
>> to
>> form:
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>>> lame website stuff snipped
>>
>> Your web site is not only lame, but has incorrect information on it.
>>
>> 351C and 351W are completely different engines.
>>
>
> I haven't been to the website, but everybody knows that the 351 Cleveland
> and the 351 Windsor are as different as night and day. They are completely
> different. That's C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y.
>
> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely page)
> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>
> I forget which is which, but I recall that one is loosely based on the
> 289 -- its a small block motor -- and the other is based on the 429 --
> which is a large block (I think the Cleveland is the small block and the
> Windsor is the large block). Obviously one would have to have a longer
> stroke as compared to the other, causing the long stroke motor to run at
> lower RPMs. The long stroke will produce more torque at the low end, but
> will top out much sooner.


Close but no cigar.

The 351W is based on the original "Challenger V8" aka small block Ford that
was originally 221 CID then was released as a 260 289 302 in various states
of tune. The 351W is a higher decked version of this design.

The 351C is not based on the 429 but was developed at a similar time and
share similar design traits and share somethings like the distributor. The
351C is also referred to as a 335 series engine family. The 429/460 is
called the 385 series engine family. The 429/460 was also called the "Lima"
following the engine plant city name tradition.
It uses a canted valve head design not unlike a BB Chevy head. The
Cleveland was produced for the model years '70 to '73. The 400 was based on
the same design but had a higher deck height ( akin to the 302 to 351W
relationship) after '73 only the high deck 400 block was produced. A
destroked version of this motor was released as the 351M (some say Modified
others say Midland?)

Just to really confuse things the BOSS 302 was a 4 bolt Windsor block ( a
leftover from the tunnelport 302 from the ill fated 1968 Trans Am season) It
used a 351C STYLE head that was a unique BOSS 302 part.

Confused??? Why do you think so many people play it safe and stick with
SBC's!

StuK

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In article <3Y81i.427$b67.111@trnddc06>, Jeff Strickland
<crwlr.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely page)
> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.

They have the same motor mounts, bellhousing pattern, starters,
distributor cap, balancers, flywheels, and lifters.

However, the dickhead with the website is still a lazy, stupid,
freeloading bastard.

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<copied from www.ford351.com>

Ford 351 - Ford 351C - Ford 351W


Also known as "351 Cleveland", and "351 Windsor".


Ford 351

Produced by Ford Motor Company from 1969 through 1997, the Ford 351 cubic
inch engine, also known as the "Ford 351W" or "Ford 351C" was a favorite V8
engine of the GM line. Appearing in such models as the Ford Mustang, Ford
full size cars and trucks, Jeep-brand Wagoneer, and Ski Nautique ski boats,
the Ford 351 also was the engine of choice for the mid-engine Pantera sports
car in the 1970s.

Introduced in 1969, the 351 c.i. "Windsor" (351W) was rated between 250 and
290 stock horsepower with a 3.5 inch stroke in a 335 small block. In 1970,
the 351 "Cleveland" (351C) was introduced primarily for the Ford Mustang.
The majority of 351 Cleveland engines are 2 barrel carburetor versions with
low compression, although the rare "Boss 351C", produced only in 1971, was
rated at 330 base horsepower. At the end of the 1974 model year, Ford ceased
production of the 351C "Cleveland" design at the Cleveland, Ohio plant.
Production of the immensely popular 351W "Windsor" continued until 1997 when
the Windsor, Ontario plant was closed.

<end copy and paste>

These motors are not, and never have been, known as "or." They are
completely different designs, differing in many ways, most notably the
physical size differences. Except for the displacement -- 351 cubic
inches -- there is nothing similar about them. They are not interchangable
in most applications, however I'd be teh first to admit that with enough
fabrication skills one could interchange anything.

I was not aware the the Ford 351C was a favorite of the GM line. Could you
provide any citation where GM used Ford power plants?

Good luck with your Website.






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> Repost:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
> Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
> good engine pictures before restoration.
>
> Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
> "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
> Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
>
> Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
> pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
> pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
>
> Images to pics.RemoveThis@Ford351.com .
>
> Thanks
>
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> In article <3Y81i.427$b67.111@trnddc06>, Jeff Strickland
> <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
>> page)
>> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>
> They have the same motor mounts, bellhousing pattern, starters,
> distributor cap, balancers, flywheels, and lifters.
>
> However, the dickhead with the website is still a lazy, stupid,
> freeloading bastard.
>

I guess I'll take your word for it. I thought the Cleveland and Windsor
power plants were completely different in each of the areas you just said
they are common.

I remember as a kid (with my father in car business) that when a car was
listed with a Ford 351, the first question was, Cleveland or Windsor? The
performance specs were different, and the physical size was different. Or
that's what I remember thinking at the time.
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In article <Sm91i.3314$NY3.1187@trnddc03>, Jeff Strickland
<crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:

> <copied from www.ford351.com>
>
> Ford 351 - Ford 351C - Ford 351W
>
>
> Also known as "351 Cleveland", and "351 Windsor".
>
>
> Ford 351
>
> Produced by Ford Motor Company from 1969 through 1997, the Ford 351 cubic
> inch engine, also known as the "Ford 351W" or "Ford 351C" was a favorite V8
> engine of the GM line. Appearing in such models as the Ford Mustang, Ford
> full size cars and trucks, Jeep-brand Wagoneer, and Ski Nautique ski boats,
> the Ford 351 also was the engine of choice for the mid-engine Pantera sports
> car in the 1970s.

This paragraph smacks of Bill Hughes.

>
> Introduced in 1969, the 351 c.i. "Windsor" (351W) was rated between 250 and
> 290 stock horsepower with a 3.5 inch stroke in a 335 small block. In 1970,
> the 351 "Cleveland" (351C) was introduced primarily for the Ford Mustang.
> The majority of 351 Cleveland engines are 2 barrel carburetor versions with
> low compression, although the rare "Boss 351C", produced only in 1971, was
> rated at 330 base horsepower. At the end of the 1974 model year, Ford ceased
> production of the 351C "Cleveland" design at the Cleveland, Ohio plant.
> Production of the immensely popular 351W "Windsor" continued until 1997 when
> the Windsor, Ontario plant was closed.
>
> <end copy and paste>
>
> These motors are not, and never have been, known as "or." They are
> completely different designs, differing in many ways, most notably the
> physical size differences. Except for the displacement -- 351 cubic
> inches -- there is nothing similar about them. They are not interchangable
> in most applications, however I'd be teh first to admit that with enough
> fabrication skills one could interchange anything.
>
> I was not aware the the Ford 351C was a favorite of the GM line. Could you
> provide any citation where GM used Ford power plants?
>
> Good luck with your Website.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <flrealbot RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Repost:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
> > Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
> > good engine pictures before restoration.
> >
> > Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
> > "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
> > Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
> >
> > Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
> > pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
> > pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
> >
> > Images to pics RemoveThis @Ford351.com .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>

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They closed the Windsor engine plant in 1997????? hmmmm I guess my 2003
Windstar motor was made in the Windsor "England" engine plant then?
He missed the Bricklin for the 351 too. I guess he can't be bothered with
the 351M or 400? Too much thinking for someone who only understands SB and
BB. ;^) StuK




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> In article <Sm91i.3314$NY3.1187@trnddc03>, Jeff Strickland
> <crwlr DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> <copied from www.ford351.com>
>>
>> Ford 351 - Ford 351C - Ford 351W
>>
>>
>> Also known as "351 Cleveland", and "351 Windsor".
>>
>>
>> Ford 351
>>
>> Produced by Ford Motor Company from 1969 through 1997, the Ford 351 cubic
>> inch engine, also known as the "Ford 351W" or "Ford 351C" was a favorite
>> V8
>> engine of the GM line. Appearing in such models as the Ford Mustang, Ford
>> full size cars and trucks, Jeep-brand Wagoneer, and Ski Nautique ski
>> boats,
>> the Ford 351 also was the engine of choice for the mid-engine Pantera
>> sports
>> car in the 1970s.
>
> This paragraph smacks of Bill Hughes.
>
>>
>> Introduced in 1969, the 351 c.i. "Windsor" (351W) was rated between 250
>> and
>> 290 stock horsepower with a 3.5 inch stroke in a 335 small block. In
>> 1970,
>> the 351 "Cleveland" (351C) was introduced primarily for the Ford Mustang.
>> The majority of 351 Cleveland engines are 2 barrel carburetor versions
>> with
>> low compression, although the rare "Boss 351C", produced only in 1971,
>> was
>> rated at 330 base horsepower. At the end of the 1974 model year, Ford
>> ceased
>> production of the 351C "Cleveland" design at the Cleveland, Ohio plant.
>> Production of the immensely popular 351W "Windsor" continued until 1997
>> when
>> the Windsor, Ontario plant was closed.
>>
>> <end copy and paste>
>>
>> These motors are not, and never have been, known as "or." They are
>> completely different designs, differing in many ways, most notably the
>> physical size differences. Except for the displacement -- 351 cubic
>> inches -- there is nothing similar about them. They are not
>> interchangable
>> in most applications, however I'd be teh first to admit that with enough
>> fabrication skills one could interchange anything.
>>
>> I was not aware the the Ford 351C was a favorite of the GM line. Could
>> you
>> provide any citation where GM used Ford power plants?
>>
>> Good luck with your Website.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <flrealbot DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am working on a new website www.Ford351.com and need pictures of
>> > Ford 351 engines. I had a '72 Ford Torino with a 351C engine but no
>> > good engine pictures before restoration.
>> >
>> > Specifically, I am looking for 351 C or 351 W engines. Pictures of a
>> > "Boss 351" or 351 engines factory installed in non-Ford cars (Pantera,
>> > Ski Nautique, Jeep) will be interesting.
>> >
>> > Please help me find Ford 351 engine pictures. They must be your
>> > pictures; please do not mail me links or search suggestions. No
>> > pictures of your cars, boats or trucks.
>> >
>> > Images to pics DeleteThis @Ford351.com .
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 02:15:19 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"CobraJet" <shedding.DeleteThis@skin.molt> wrote in message
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>> In article <3Y81i.427$b67.111@trnddc06>, Jeff Strickland
>> <crwlr.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
>>> page)
>>> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>>
>> They have the same motor mounts, bellhousing pattern, starters,
>> distributor cap, balancers, flywheels, and lifters.
>>
>> However, the dickhead with the website is still a lazy, stupid,
>> freeloading bastard.
>>
>
>I guess I'll take your word for it. I thought the Cleveland and Windsor
>power plants were completely different in each of the areas you just said
>they are common.
>
>I remember as a kid (with my father in car business) that when a car was
>listed with a Ford 351, the first question was, Cleveland or Windsor? The
>performance specs were different, and the physical size was different. Or
>that's what I remember thinking at the time.

You're right Jeff. 351 C's and W's are totally different blocks. The
W is more or less a 302 with 351 heads. The C is a big block.
This dude it an idiot.
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