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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:55 pm
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Hi

I have just upgraded from a 1.4 16v Fiat Punto sporting to a Stilo
Schumacher GP 2.4 5 cylinder 20v . I'm well impressed with it does anyone
else have one or anyone with any experience on driving one.

As i said im really impressed with it and a bit suprised as its not the sort
of car i ever imagined you could buy from Fiat, with it monsterous engine
sound and 18" rims

Anyone have any specs or information on this it is ment to be a LTD edition,

Thanks

Terry

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 pm
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Basically an evolution of the original Stilo Abarth, which was the same 2.4
engine but only came with the Selespeed clutchless gearbox.

I have the original version and am fairly happy. I say fairly because with
over 32 years of owning and servicing Fiats, my Abarth has been the most
interesting and troublesome.

First of all my major problems have been, in my opinion, dealer induced.
Like all Fiat engines the 5 cylinder model is very reliable and pretty
bullet proof. Just my luck mine developed a rattle when only 3K miles old.
Fiat UK to their credit were not prepared to subject the engine and customer
to stripdown and repair traumas. A brand new engine was fitted instead.
That engine is still running strong, towing a caravan from the UK to Italy
every year.

However I have experienced some interesting problems which I believe are
design and dealer related

1) on the selespeed model the gearbox electrical connectors appear to be
fragile and don't appreciate anything but delicate handling
2) the radiator cannot be easily blead. It is difficult to explain but I
will try. The top radiator hose is some 10cm from the top of the rad. The
bleed screw is located and TOTALLY hidden behind the air intake tube
resonator box which is located 1/3rd of the way down the tube. This inlet
tube cannot be removed without removing the whole air intake system, which
requires the battery to be removed. This means that proper cooling system
bleeding is a multiple step process. My dealers took a one step process
which I believe resulted in subsequent suspect thermosat replacement and
finally radiator failure .
3) The original Stilos had both front and rear wheel tracking problems.
These should be sorted by now.
4) Like all large engine modern cars space in the engine comparment is very
much at a premium and component failure can be expensive in labour charges.

Having said the above I'm still behind my Stilo. Will I eventually change
it? YES!

Reason: The Selespeed gearbox. If you tow then this gearbox is not for you
or the car!

I did not have that choice/option.

Apart from the above the Stilo 2.4 is a great car and very much underated in
my opinion.

Nick /////


"Visual Reality" <info.DeleteThis@visualreality.info> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have just upgraded from a 1.4 16v Fiat Punto sporting to a Stilo
> Schumacher GP 2.4 5 cylinder 20v . I'm well impressed with it does anyone
> else have one or anyone with any experience on driving one.
>
> As i said im really impressed with it and a bit suprised as its not the
> sort of car i ever imagined you could buy from Fiat, with it monsterous
> engine sound and 18" rims
>
> Anyone have any specs or information on this it is ment to be a LTD
> edition,
>
> Thanks
>
> Terry
>
>
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:55 pm
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Nick

The Stilo Schmacher hasnt got a selespeed gearbox, the dealer did tell me
they had problems with the Arbarth so looks like i might be ok there
One quick question as you seem to know a fairbit about Stilos

When i corner tightly at high speed there is a squikey sound. what is this
it sounds like a pump or something it was abit worrying at first but the
wheels havent fallen off yet so if must be something that helps with
cornering thats a bit noisy

Thanks for the info

Terry
"Nick /////" <nicknewsX.DeleteThis@Xnick-bailey.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Basically an evolution of the original Stilo Abarth, which was the same
> 2.4 engine but only came with the Selespeed clutchless gearbox.
>
> I have the original version and am fairly happy. I say fairly because
> with over 32 years of owning and servicing Fiats, my Abarth has been the
> most interesting and troublesome.
>
> First of all my major problems have been, in my opinion, dealer induced.
> Like all Fiat engines the 5 cylinder model is very reliable and pretty
> bullet proof. Just my luck mine developed a rattle when only 3K miles
> old. Fiat UK to their credit were not prepared to subject the engine and
> customer to stripdown and repair traumas. A brand new engine was fitted
> instead. That engine is still running strong, towing a caravan from the UK
> to Italy every year.
>
> However I have experienced some interesting problems which I believe are
> design and dealer related
>
> 1) on the selespeed model the gearbox electrical connectors appear to be
> fragile and don't appreciate anything but delicate handling
> 2) the radiator cannot be easily blead. It is difficult to explain but I
> will try. The top radiator hose is some 10cm from the top of the rad.
> The bleed screw is located and TOTALLY hidden behind the air intake tube
> resonator box which is located 1/3rd of the way down the tube. This inlet
> tube cannot be removed without removing the whole air intake system, which
> requires the battery to be removed. This means that proper cooling system
> bleeding is a multiple step process. My dealers took a one step process
> which I believe resulted in subsequent suspect thermosat replacement and
> finally radiator failure .
> 3) The original Stilos had both front and rear wheel tracking problems.
> These should be sorted by now.
> 4) Like all large engine modern cars space in the engine comparment is
> very much at a premium and component failure can be expensive in labour
> charges.
>
> Having said the above I'm still behind my Stilo. Will I eventually change
> it? YES!
>
> Reason: The Selespeed gearbox. If you tow then this gearbox is not for
> you or the car!
>
> I did not have that choice/option.
>
> Apart from the above the Stilo 2.4 is a great car and very much underated
> in my opinion.
>
> Nick /////
>
>
> "Visual Reality" <info.DeleteThis@visualreality.info> wrote in message
> news:du2uvp$1s5$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Hi
>>
>> I have just upgraded from a 1.4 16v Fiat Punto sporting to a Stilo
>> Schumacher GP 2.4 5 cylinder 20v . I'm well impressed with it does anyone
>> else have one or anyone with any experience on driving one.
>>
>> As i said im really impressed with it and a bit suprised as its not the
>> sort of car i ever imagined you could buy from Fiat, with it monsterous
>> engine sound and 18" rims
>>
>> Anyone have any specs or information on this it is ment to be a LTD
>> edition,
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:55 am
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"Visual Reality" <info.RemoveThis@visualreality.info> wrote in message
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> Nick
>
> The Stilo Schmacher hasnt got a selespeed gearbox, the dealer did tell me
> they had problems with the Arbarth so looks like i might be ok there
> One quick question as you seem to know a fairbit about Stilos
>
> When i corner tightly at high speed there is a squikey sound. what is this
> it sounds like a pump or something it was abit worrying at first but the
> wheels havent fallen off yet so if must be something that helps with
> cornering thats a bit noisy
>
> Thanks for the info
>
> Terry

A squeaky sound when your corner tightly at high speeds? lol....its not your
tires squealing as they're on the limit of their grip is it?

hehe

Jimbo
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:55 am
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Jane

I know what tyre squeal is !! definatly not that sound thats as constant and
engine noise for me

Terry


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>
> "Visual Reality" <info.RemoveThis@visualreality.info> wrote in message
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>> Nick
>>
>> The Stilo Schmacher hasnt got a selespeed gearbox, the dealer did tell me
>> they had problems with the Arbarth so looks like i might be ok there
>> One quick question as you seem to know a fairbit about Stilos
>>
>> When i corner tightly at high speed there is a squikey sound. what is
>> this
>> it sounds like a pump or something it was abit worrying at first but the
>> wheels havent fallen off yet so if must be something that helps with
>> cornering thats a bit noisy
>>
>> Thanks for the info
>>
>> Terry
>
> A squeaky sound when your corner tightly at high speeds? lol....its not
> your
> tires squealing as they're on the limit of their grip is it?
>
> hehe
>
> Jimbo
>
>
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