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Mystic

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Since: Mar 01, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:55 pm
Post subject: Smog suggestions 85 vanagon
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I have tried to get smogged (california) an 85 Vanagon. Each repair
facility I have taken it to has suggested replacing a different part
from the fuel system. Does anyone here truly understand how this system
works?

I have replaced: Catalytic converter, O2 sensor, Coolant Sensor, Air
Flow Meter, ECU (this actually made the vehicle stall at idle.) Another
fix I was suggested was replace the fuel ingectors.

My problem has been too much fuel in the exhaust. Does anyone truly know
how this system works And how can I correctly find the problem? Smog
check stations like to make guesses but are obviously ignorant of how
this system works.

MYSTIC

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stv_euroski

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:55 pm
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Not sure about the test in your state but I can tell you the engine needs to
be run awhile to get the cat up to temperature. We don't get many vans in
anymore but I would drive it for a bout 5 miles and immediately run the test
once in the shop before the cat cooled down. Can you post the test results?

"Mystic" wrote in message

>I have tried to get smogged (california) an 85 Vanagon. Each repair
>facility I have taken it to has suggested replacing a different part from
>the fuel system. Does anyone here truly understand how this system works?
>
> I have replaced: Catalytic converter, O2 sensor, Coolant Sensor, Air Flow
> Meter, ECU (this actually made the vehicle stall at idle.) Another fix I
> was suggested was replace the fuel ingectors.
>
> My problem has been too much fuel in the exhaust. Does anyone truly know
> how this system works And how can I correctly find the problem? Smog check
> stations like to make guesses but are obviously ignorant of how this
> system works.
>
> MYSTIC

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Jo Bo

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:55 am
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Try unplugging your o2 sensor. If it makes no difference then the problem is
most likely the cable/wire from the o2 sensor running to the ecm. I had a 84
and chased this problem for a while. I passed the tip along to a group I
used to belonged to and got replies of thanks from all over the world. The
wire is actually a coax cable and the insulation between the center
conductor and outer shield is deteriorating. Plus if it's got a "generic"
crimp on type connector that's a sure giveaway. It's running rich because
the ecm is not seeing voltage from the sensor and is adding fuel to raise
the voltage level. I used microphone cable from Radio Shack and replaced it
all from the ecm connector down to the o2 sensor. The system is actually
quite simple but a understanding of what's going on is necessary. You can
disconnect the connector to the o2 sensor and measure the voltage from it.
It should be around 1.5v as I remember measured with a digital meter.

JoBo
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>I have tried to get smogged (california) an 85 Vanagon. Each repair
>facility I have taken it to has suggested replacing a different part from
>the fuel system. Does anyone here truly understand how this system works?
>
> I have replaced: Catalytic converter, O2 sensor, Coolant Sensor, Air Flow
> Meter, ECU (this actually made the vehicle stall at idle.) Another fix I
> was suggested was replace the fuel ingectors.
>
> My problem has been too much fuel in the exhaust. Does anyone truly know
> how this system works And how can I correctly find the problem? Smog check
> stations like to make guesses but are obviously ignorant of how this
> system works.
>
> MYSTIC
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Harry

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Since: Jul 09, 2005
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:19 pm
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"Mystic" wrote

> I have replaced: Catalytic converter, O2 sensor, Coolant Sensor, Air Flow
> Meter, ECU (this actually made the vehicle stall at idle.) Another fix I
> was suggested was replace the fuel ingectors.
>
> My problem has been too much fuel in the exhaust. Does anyone truly know
> how this system works And how can I correctly find the problem? Smog check
> stations like to make guesses but are obviously ignorant of how this
> system works.
>
> MYSTIC

Hopefully it is fuel and not vapor. Also hopefully, your Vanagon is not
starting the common problem of this vintage wasserboxer engine, that is,
commonly, coolant leaks into the combustion chamber. Eventually it steams,
has leak on the ground and starts intermittently. This would effect
catalytic converter capability though may not be otherwise apparent because
it may not have gotten that bad. Hopefully it is not this. The aluminum
heads of the Vanagon react and form deposits that eventually cause coolant
to leak into the combustion chamber. There are machined fixes for this with
a swap of heads of different aluminum modified and machined on a replacement
head.

Harry
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