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Since: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:07 am
Post subject: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving Archived from groups: alt>autos>pontiac (more info?)
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Since: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 461
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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What vehicle, stick or auto and why?
"Tim" <jmeth111.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
> damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?
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Since: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:16 am
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It's an auto.
Shep wrote:
> What vehicle, stick or auto and why?
> "Tim" <jmeth111.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
>>damage?
>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>signs and red lights?
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Since: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 51
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:47 am
Post subject: Re: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Tim <jmeth....RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
> long-term damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?
No, but it doesn't help anything either. There is no friction while
stopped in drive. I do it a lot myself because automatic
transmissions annoy me. I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating. >> Stay informed about: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving |
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Since: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 51
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:05 pm
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On Apr 29, 3:10 pm, Tim <jmeth....DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.
>
Back in the earlier days of fuel injection, ECMs would shut off fuel
completely during deceleration. Leaving it in gear while slowing down
would basically let the car's momentum keep the engine spinning with
no fuel use at all. Unfortunately, that causes a spike in NOx
emissions so new cars keep dumping in fuel even when decelerating.
Even worse, my '99 Grand Cherokee steps up the idle control motor when
I shift down into 2nd - conveniently eliminating the additional engine
braking that I wanted.
> I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
> help at all.
Don't really know. Try it both ways and find out. Get a car with a
manual transmission. That makes a real difference.
For mileage, make sure your tires are inflated properly. That makes a
huge difference and air is cheap. >> Stay informed about: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving |
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Since: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:10 pm
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The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Tim <jmeth... DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>long-term damage?
>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>signs and red lights?
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> No, but it doesn't help anything either. There is no friction while
> stopped in drive. I do it a lot myself because automatic
> transmissions annoy me. I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
> or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.
>
Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.
My old car used to seem to idle smoother when in neutral so I would put
it in neutral while at a stop light so it wouldn't stall. It was an auto
too.
I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
help at all. >> Stay informed about: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving |
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Since: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 461
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Negligible difference, an unloaded engine ( neutral) would use slighly less
fuel, but for the short time, it is not worth it plus if you had to make a
sudden emergency manuever, now what.
"Tim" <jmeth111.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Tim <jmeth....RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>>long-term damage?
>>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>>signs and red lights?
>>
>>
>> No, but it doesn't help anything either. There is no friction while
>> stopped in drive. I do it a lot myself because automatic
>> transmissions annoy me. I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
>> or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.
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> Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.
>
> My old car used to seem to idle smoother when in neutral so I would put it
> in neutral while at a stop light so it wouldn't stall. It was an auto too.
>
> I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
> help at all.
>
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Since: Feb 05, 2007 Posts: 197
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 am
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"Tim" <jmeth111.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
> damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?
When I used to commute over back country roads (hills, turns, turns at the
top or bottom of hills, etc.) in winter (snow, ice, hardpack, freezing rain,
black ice, etc.) in an old rear wheel drive barge, I frequently put it into
neutral before trying to brake so that the rear (drive) wheels would brake
the same as the fronts. (Left in drive, the fronts would tend to lock up
first on slippery surfaces since they don't have the engine trying to keep
them moving.) It may have helped (I never slid much at all), but after a
couple of years of that I needed a new transmission. Only thing I can think
of is wearing out the clutches and actuators by going into & out of drive so
much... >> Stay informed about: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving |
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Since: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:40 pm
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What if you are shifting gears manually or are in neutral at a stop
light and have to make an emergency manuever?
Shep wrote:
> Negligible difference, an unloaded engine ( neutral) would use slighly less
> fuel, but for the short time, it is not worth it plus if you had to make a
> sudden emergency manuever, now what.
> "Tim" <jmeth111 RemoveThis @yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:2e75c$48177231$cef8ac46$27884@TEKSAVVY.COM...
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>>The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
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>>>On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Tim <jmeth... RemoveThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>>>long-term damage?
>>>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>>>signs and red lights?
>>>
>>>
>>>No, but it doesn't help anything either. There is no friction while
>>>stopped in drive. I do it a lot myself because automatic
>>>transmissions annoy me. I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
>>>or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.
>>>
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>>Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.
>>
>>My old car used to seem to idle smoother when in neutral so I would put it
>>in neutral while at a stop light so it wouldn't stall. It was an auto too.
>>
>>I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
>>help at all.
>>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:42 pm
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Ron Seiden wrote:
> "Tim" <jmeth111.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:d1bd0$4815e847$cef8ac46$12181@TEKSAVVY.COM...
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>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
>>damage?
>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>signs and red lights?
>
>
> When I used to commute over back country roads (hills, turns, turns at the
> top or bottom of hills, etc.) in winter (snow, ice, hardpack, freezing rain,
> black ice, etc.) in an old rear wheel drive barge, I frequently put it into
> neutral before trying to brake so that the rear (drive) wheels would brake
> the same as the fronts. (Left in drive, the fronts would tend to lock up
> first on slippery surfaces since they don't have the engine trying to keep
> them moving.) It may have helped (I never slid much at all), but after a
> couple of years of that I needed a new transmission. Only thing I can think
> of is wearing out the clutches and actuators by going into & out of drive so
> much...
>
>
They let you change between the two without depressing a button so I
would hope that indicates that you won't damage the transmission.
Of course, it will be damaged less than shifting from drive to reverse
while still going forward. >> Stay informed about: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving |
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Since: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 461
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Shifting from drive to neutral when moving [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Are you talking about a std shift car if so it should be in 1st, foot on
clutch for a shorter engagement time, if an auto it shouldn't be in neutral
unless you are experiencing extended idling time for some reason.
"Tim" <jmeth111 DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> What if you are shifting gears manually or are in neutral at a stop light
> and have to make an emergency manuever?
>
> Shep wrote:
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>> Negligible difference, an unloaded engine ( neutral) would use slighly
>> less fuel, but for the short time, it is not worth it plus if you had to
>> make a sudden emergency manuever, now what.
>> "Tim" <jmeth111 DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>> news:2e75c$48177231$cef8ac46$27884@TEKSAVVY.COM...
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>>>The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Tim <jmeth... DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>>>>long-term damage?
>>>>>What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
>>>>>signs and red lights?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, but it doesn't help anything either. There is no friction while
>>>>stopped in drive. I do it a lot myself because automatic
>>>>transmissions annoy me. I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
>>>>or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.
>>>
>>>My old car used to seem to idle smoother when in neutral so I would put
>>>it in neutral while at a stop light so it wouldn't stall. It was an auto
>>>too.
>>>
>>>I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
>>>help at all.
>>>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:15 am
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