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Gardis

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:45 pm
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Guys,
This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.

Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
OK? Very confusing.

Now, getting back to the warranty. BMW has a 6 years warranty. The
first two years covers items that wear out, like brakes. But bumper to
bumper coverage for 6 years or 100K miles, whichever comes first.
Now, I have had the BMW dealer service my car exclusively. I'm one of
these "morons' someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
having the dealer service the car. First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
computerized equipment to diagnose the problem and repair. The old
days of changing the spark plugs are over.
And how much do you really think you are saving by going to a private
garage anyway. Don't you think they KNOW how much Lexus charges, and
they take may be 10% less. Are you happy with that? And you are
placing your warranty in jeopardy by using an unauthorized garage
anyway. I can't conceive of why someone would spend upwards of $40K on
a car, and then quibble about what the service costs are. If you
cannot afford the servicing of a BMW or Lexus, then you should drive a
Chevy.

I'm not quite sure I follow the bit about oil changes. I hate going to
Valvoline, they try to sell you extra services, and synthetic oil. I
am confused. I fear that if I pick the wrong oil, the car will stop
functioning. So I pay $69.99, and have BMW do it. I drive out with
peace of mind. Big deal, it cost me double. I'm not going broke over
it.

BMW re designed the X5 it's heavier and bigger. What sense does it
make with $4.00/gallon gas (have to use high test in a BMW), and they
give you a vehicle that gets less mileage, I don't know. I'm leaning
toward the Lexus.

Gardis
Connecticut

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:15 am
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I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.

At least all the Tahoe's we've owned never had a windshield
crack simply from stress, like our LS430 did. Of course the
dealer replaced the glass under the warranty campaign, but
I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
owned.




"Gardis" <gardis72 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Guys,
> This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
> impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.
>
> Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
> OK? Very confusing.
>
> Now, getting back to the warranty. BMW has a 6 years warranty. The
> first two years covers items that wear out, like brakes. But bumper to
> bumper coverage for 6 years or 100K miles, whichever comes first.
> Now, I have had the BMW dealer service my car exclusively. I'm one of
> these "morons' someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
> having the dealer service the car. First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
> highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
> computerized equipment to diagnose the problem and repair. The old
> days of changing the spark plugs are over.
> And how much do you really think you are saving by going to a private
> garage anyway. Don't you think they KNOW how much Lexus charges, and
> they take may be 10% less. Are you happy with that? And you are
> placing your warranty in jeopardy by using an unauthorized garage
> anyway. I can't conceive of why someone would spend upwards of $40K on
> a car, and then quibble about what the service costs are. If you
> cannot afford the servicing of a BMW or Lexus, then you should drive a
> Chevy.
>
> I'm not quite sure I follow the bit about oil changes. I hate going to
> Valvoline, they try to sell you extra services, and synthetic oil. I
> am confused. I fear that if I pick the wrong oil, the car will stop
> functioning. So I pay $69.99, and have BMW do it. I drive out with
> peace of mind. Big deal, it cost me double. I'm not going broke over
> it.
>
> BMW re designed the X5 it's heavier and bigger. What sense does it
> make with $4.00/gallon gas (have to use high test in a BMW), and they
> give you a vehicle that gets less mileage, I don't know. I'm leaning
> toward the Lexus.
>
> Gardis
> Connecticut

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:02 pm
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SHAME !!!! You shouldn't stress out your car like that !!!!! Just what
did you do to stress an LS430 anyway? I'll bet you said some bad
things about it and that stressed it out and it cracked its poor
little windshield !
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:11 pm
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 17:45:04 -0700 (PDT), Gardis <gardis72.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Guys,
>This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
>impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.

Hint: Many of the speakers don't know what they are saying. Wink

>Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
>OK? Very confusing.
>
>Now, getting back to the warranty. BMW has a 6 years warranty. The
>first two years covers items that wear out, like brakes. But bumper to
>bumper coverage for 6 years or 100K miles, whichever comes first.
>Now, I have had the BMW dealer service my car exclusively. I'm one of
>these "morons' someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
>having the dealer service the car.

Hi, fellow moron. I knew I wasn;t the only one. Wink

>First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
>highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
>computerized equipment to diagnose the problem and repair. The old
>days of changing the spark plugs are over.
>And how much do you really think you are saving by going to a private
>garage anyway. Don't you think they KNOW how much Lexus charges, and
>they take may be 10% less. Are you happy with that? And you are
>placing your warranty in jeopardy by using an unauthorized garage
>anyway. I can't conceive of why someone would spend upwards of $40K on
>a car, and then quibble about what the service costs are. If you
>cannot afford the servicing of a BMW or Lexus, then you should drive a
>Chevy.
>
>I'm not quite sure I follow the bit about oil changes. I hate going to
>Valvoline, they try to sell you extra services, and synthetic oil. I
>am confused. I fear that if I pick the wrong oil, the car will stop
>functioning. So I pay $69.99, and have BMW do it. I drive out with
>peace of mind. Big deal, it cost me double. I'm not going broke over
>it.
>
>BMW re designed the X5 it's heavier and bigger. What sense does it
>make with $4.00/gallon gas (have to use high test in a BMW), and they
>give you a vehicle that gets less mileage, I don't know. I'm leaning
>toward the Lexus.
>
>Gardis
>Connecticut
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:12 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:55 pm
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Yeah I think you're right. Just get a Toyota Lexus. It's the excellent
Buick that GM couldn't build.


On May 12, 5:45 pm, Gardis <gardi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
> This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
> impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.
>
> Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
> OK? Very confusing.
>
> Now, getting back to the warranty. BMW has a 6 years warranty. The
> first two years covers items that wear out, like brakes. But bumper to
> bumper coverage for 6 years or 100K miles, whichever comes first.
> Now, I have had the BMW dealer service my car exclusively. I'm one of
> these "morons' someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
> having the dealer service the car. First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
> highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
> computerized equipment to diagnose the problem and repair. The old
> days of changing the spark plugs are over.
> And how much do you really think you are saving by going to a private
> garage anyway. Don't you think they KNOW how much Lexus charges, and
> they take may be 10% less. Are you happy with that? And you are
> placing your warranty in jeopardy by using an unauthorized garage
> anyway. I can't conceive of why someone would spend upwards of $40K on
> a car, and then quibble about what the service costs are. If you
> cannot afford the servicing of a BMW or Lexus, then you should drive a
> Chevy.
>
> I'm not quite sure I follow the bit about oil changes. I hate going to
> Valvoline, they try to sell you extra services, and synthetic oil. I
> am confused. I fear that if I pick the wrong oil, the car will stop
> functioning. So I pay $69.99, and have BMW do it. I drive out with
> peace of mind. Big deal, it cost me double. I'm not going broke over
> it.
>
> BMW re designed the X5 it's heavier and bigger. What sense does it
> make with $4.00/gallon gas (have to use high test in a BMW), and they
> give you a vehicle that gets less mileage, I don't know. I'm leaning
> toward the Lexus.
>
> Gardis
> Connecticut
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:06 pm
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Didn't you know, Lexus is very fragile! Wink

On May 13, 8:02 pm, mcbrue <mcb....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> SHAME !!!! You shouldn't stress out your car like that !!!!! Just what
> did you do to stress an LS430 anyway? I'll bet you said some bad
> things about it and that stressed it out and it cracked its poor
> little windshield !
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:15 pm
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Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!


On May 13, 12:15 am, "Anonymous" <c... DeleteThis @com.com> wrote:
> I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.
>
> At least all the Tahoe's we've owned never had a windshield
> crack simply from stress, like our LS430 did. Of course the
> dealer replaced the glass under the warranty campaign, but
> I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
> owned.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:20 am
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT), johngdole.DeleteThis@hotmail.com you
wrote:

>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
>Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!

and at only $50k starting price! What a deal!






>
>
>On May 13, 12:15 am, "Anonymous" <c....DeleteThis@com.com> wrote:
>> I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.
>>
>> At least all the Tahoe's we've owned never had a windshield
>> crack simply from stress, like our LS430 did. Of course the
>> dealer replaced the glass under the warranty campaign, but
>> I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
>> owned.
>>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:35 pm
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT), johngdole.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
>Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!

And 9 mpg less highway. Once again, it's interesting how you cherry
pick your statistics.

So, if your idea of "better value" is better fuel economy, that same
Tahoe is a better value than most Mercedes and BMWs too, isn't it?

And since you love to cut and paste articles here in a Lexus newsgroup
about how well Mercedes are selling, would you argue that a Camry is
really a much better car than any Mercedes or BMW, since they sell
much more of them?

What do you drive, john?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:40 pm
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hee hee hee I'm sure the 2008 Green Car of the Year. is worth every
penny with $4/gal gas prices and said soon to be $5/gal. "The 2008
Chevy Tahoe already has best-in-class fuel economy"

http://www.chevrolet.com/hybrid/



On May 18, 4:20 am, 01dyna <01d....TakeThisOut@noplace.com> wrote:
> >The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
> >Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!
>
> and at only $50k starting price! What a deal!
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:14 pm
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Yeah! What DO you drive, John??

GIga


"DaveW" <myob.RemoveThis@oohay.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT), johngdole.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
>>Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!
>
> And 9 mpg less highway. Once again, it's interesting how you cherry
> pick your statistics.
>
> So, if your idea of "better value" is better fuel economy, that same
> Tahoe is a better value than most Mercedes and BMWs too, isn't it?
>
> And since you love to cut and paste articles here in a Lexus newsgroup
> about how well Mercedes are selling, would you argue that a Camry is
> really a much better car than any Mercedes or BMW, since they sell
> much more of them?
>
> What do you drive, john?
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