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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:21 pm
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"Larry in AZ" wrote in message
> Waiving the right to remain silent, "tww1491" said:
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>> "Larry in AZ" wrote in message
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>>>>> "userjohn" wrote in
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>>>>>
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>>>>>> "tww1491"
>>>>>>> I became a Honda fan in the 60s with a CL77 305 and later CB750
>>>>>>> when they came out.
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>>>>>> wow hahaha ! I didn't even know the's Honda in the US in the 60s
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I think he's referring to motorcycles.
>>>>> AFAIK,the first Honda motorCAR in the US was the Honda 600.
>>>>> IIRC,followed by the Civic CVCC?
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>>> My Honda AN-600...
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>> When I was in Japan 67-69 Honda sold a very small roadster -- the S600
>> followed by the S800. It was chain driven with a DOHC 4 banger.
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> My AN-600 was two cylinders, 598cc, to be exact. IIRC, it was essentially
> a motorcycle engine. In Japan, the car was chain drive, but that wasn't
> approved for export to the US, and the car had to wait for a real
> transmission.
>
> It probably still stands as one of the highest mileage cars ever seen
> here. It routinely got 50-55 mpg. On a bad day it got 45 mpg.
>
> It would easily do 80 mph on a straight road - 90 or better, downhill with
> a good tail wind. 
>
Most people underestimated Hondas in those days.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:55 pm
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I think it's a bargain when you can spend over 30K for a Hyundai. I know
of cases where new S2000's have sold for under 30k. I purchased my 05
with 8k miles from a local Honda dealership certified with a free extended
warranty up to 7 years and 100,000 miles on the power train from the date
of the original sale. I had over a year remaining on the original 3 year
warranty and that was bumped to two years as part of the certification
process. The car is sheer joy to drive and feels like it has a turbo when
you get into the Vtech range between 6 and 8k. Top speed for this "4 wheel
superbike" is around 150 mph. The biggest challange is to keep it under
the police radar. Gas milage for me in the past 2000 miles is 23 around
town and 32.5 highway. Zero to 60 is in the 5 sec. range. I'm told it has
the most powerful engine (non-turbo) for it's size in the world (2.2
liter). I came close to purchasing an RX-8 with milage in the mid teens.
My local Mazda Dealer told me of all the engine flooding problems, the $50
spark plugs x4, and all the engine replacements for all sorts of reasons.
Lastly, many dealers will not let you test drive an S2000 for fear that
you will accidently select the wrong gear and damage the engine by severly
over reveing it. I have done that a few times but I was way under redline
so no harm done. I am getting much better. The 2.2 liter does not need
to be downshifted to pass cars on the highway. I am so impressed with
this little roadster. And, I don't believe Honda makes money on this car!
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:56 am
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"duckbill" wrote in
> Lastly, many dealers will not let you test drive an S2000 for
> fear that you will accidently select the wrong gear and damage the
> engine by severly over reveing it. I have done that a few times but I
> was way under redline so no harm done. I am getting much better. The
> 2.2 liter does not need to be downshifted to pass cars on the highway.
> I am so impressed with this little roadster. And, I don't believe
> Honda makes money on this car!
If a dealer will not let me test drive a car,I will not buy anything from
them,and go to another dealer.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:55 pm
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:59 pm
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:02 pm
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:55:11 -0400, "duckbill"
wrote:
>I think it's a bargain when you can spend over 30K for a Hyundai. I know
>of cases where new S2000's have sold for under 30k. I purchased my 05
>with 8k miles from a local Honda dealership certified with a free extended
>warranty up to 7 years and 100,000 miles on the power train from the date
>of the original sale. I had over a year remaining on the original 3 year
>warranty and that was bumped to two years as part of the certification
>process. The car is sheer joy to drive and feels like it has a turbo when
>you get into the Vtech range between 6 and 8k. Top speed for this "4 wheel
>superbike" is around 150 mph. The biggest challange is to keep it under
>the police radar. Gas milage for me in the past 2000 miles is 23 around
>town and 32.5 highway. Zero to 60 is in the 5 sec. range. I'm told it has
>the most powerful engine (non-turbo) for it's size in the world (2.2
>liter). I came close to purchasing an RX-8 with milage in the mid teens.
>My local Mazda Dealer told me of all the engine flooding problems, the $50
>spark plugs x4, and all the engine replacements for all sorts of reasons.
>Lastly, many dealers will not let you test drive an S2000 for fear that
>you will accidently select the wrong gear and damage the engine by severly
>over reveing it. I have done that a few times but I was way under redline
>so no harm done. I am getting much better. The 2.2 liter does not need
>to be downshifted to pass cars on the highway. I am so impressed with
>this little roadster. And, I don't believe Honda makes money on this car!
So... how much did you pay?
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:19 pm
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"Gordon McGrew" wrote in message
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:53:20 GMT, Larry in AZ
> wrote:
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>>Waiving the right to remain silent, "tww1491" said:
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>>> "Larry in AZ" wrote in message
>>>
>>
>>>> My AN-600 was two cylinders, 598cc, to be exact. IIRC, it was
>>>> essentially
>>>> a motorcycle engine. In Japan, the car was chain drive, but that
>>>> wasn't
>>>> approved for export to the US, and the car had to wait for a real
>>>> transmission.
>>>>
>>>> It probably still stands as one of the highest mileage cars ever seen
>>>> here. It routinely got 50-55 mpg. On a bad day it got 45 mpg.
>>>>
>>>> It would easily do 80 mph on a straight road - 90 or better, downhill
>>>> with
>>>> a good tail wind.
>>>>
>>> Most people underestimated Hondas in those days.
>>
>>Most people hadn't heard of Honda cars in those days...
>
> They had certainly heard of Honda motorcycles. I know my '74 Civic
> surprised a lot of people driving the modestly powered cars of the
> day. In a drag race it could easily smoke those MG roadsters and most
> anything that passed as an economy car.
When I returned from Japan in 1969, I sold my 305 and bought the new 350
(325cc) scambler which I shipped to the US. Recollect the redline was around
9k or so. Rode with a bunch of big bike drivers (Nortons, Hogs and and so
forth) in San Antonio, who were constantly surprised by this screaming
"tiddler" that could keep up with them and even do around 100 mph. They
could understand how it stayed together. The CB 750 (later owned) was
amazing for the time. A mc mag tested one when they came out by riding it
coast to coast -- without any breakdowns and just a couple of chain
adjustments -- an amazing feat for the time for a bike. As I said, Honda
made its rep on motorcycles which laid the way for their cars. I also had a
Triumph Bonneville for about a year before it was stolen (circa 1970) -- two
hours of maintenance for every hour on the road and remember to tape spare
cables to your handlebars because you'll need em.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:31 pm
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First, my previous comment of getting one for under $30k new may be BS.
Apperently someone on another web site claimed he could but was never able
to back it up with any documentation. How much did I pay? Oh well, I paid
the dealer $1,000 less than he wanted, and yet still paid $1,000 more than
I wanted (paid $26,995). There were two other people wanting to look at the
car. It had no dings or dents......and looked as if it had never been
driven....and that was before it was detailed. In 05, the total factory
warranty was 3 years, 36k. Buying it from a dealer gave me peace of mind
with Honda's Certified 7 year (5 years left) 100,000 mile power train
warranty and 2 years or 40,000 miles left on everything else. The car was
manufactured in Japan in June 05 and sold in Aug of 05. It was less than 2
years old and it was the last year with the real throttle cable. Some of
the 06's are having hesitation problems with their DBW. For some very
interesting and detailed comments on the S2000, go to www.s2ki.com;
cheers.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:40 pm
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:31:07 -0400, "duckbill"
wrote:
>First, my previous comment of getting one for under $30k new may be BS.
>Apperently someone on another web site claimed he could but was never able
>to back it up with any documentation. How much did I pay? Oh well, I paid
>the dealer $1,000 less than he wanted, and yet still paid $1,000 more than
>I wanted (paid $26,995). There were two other people wanting to look at the
>car. It had no dings or dents......and looked as if it had never been
>driven....and that was before it was detailed. In 05, the total factory
>warranty was 3 years, 36k. Buying it from a dealer gave me peace of mind
>with Honda's Certified 7 year (5 years left) 100,000 mile power train
>warranty and 2 years or 40,000 miles left on everything else. The car was
>manufactured in Japan in June 05 and sold in Aug of 05. It was less than 2
>years old and it was the last year with the real throttle cable. Some of
>the 06's are having hesitation problems with their DBW. For some very
>interesting and detailed comments on the S2000, go to www.s2ki.com;
>cheers.
Thanks for the info. I think 2005 was the last year for the 9000rpm 2
liter engine which is a plus in my mind as well. Enjoy your S2000. >> Stay informed about: S2000 a $34K car ???? |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:10 pm
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Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:31:07 -0400, "duckbill"
> wrote:
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>> First, my previous comment of getting one for under $30k new may be BS.
>> Apperently someone on another web site claimed he could but was never able
>> to back it up with any documentation. How much did I pay? Oh well, I paid
>> the dealer $1,000 less than he wanted, and yet still paid $1,000 more than
>> I wanted (paid $26,995). There were two other people wanting to look at the
>> car. It had no dings or dents......and looked as if it had never been
>> driven....and that was before it was detailed. In 05, the total factory
>> warranty was 3 years, 36k. Buying it from a dealer gave me peace of mind
>> with Honda's Certified 7 year (5 years left) 100,000 mile power train
>> warranty and 2 years or 40,000 miles left on everything else. The car was
>> manufactured in Japan in June 05 and sold in Aug of 05. It was less than 2
>> years old and it was the last year with the real throttle cable. Some of
>> the 06's are having hesitation problems with their DBW. For some very
>> interesting and detailed comments on the S2000, go to www.s2ki.com;
>> cheers.
>
> Thanks for the info. I think 2005 was the last year for the 9000rpm 2
> liter engine which is a plus in my mind as well. Enjoy your S2000.
>
Actually, the '05 had the 2.2 liter engine. Red line was either 8000 or
8500. I had one, but don't recall the red line.
Tom S.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:44 pm
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Starting in 04, Honda incresed the diplacement about 10 percent which
helped improve low end torque and power which I like. Redline is now 8K,
(versus 9K with the older models). It has an 8.2K cut out.
Peak horsepower remained the same overall. I'm told people used to pay way
over list for the S when it first came out, no more of course. It has
gotten me off my motorcycle....with the top down I get the same enjoyment,
but know I'm a lot safer. Side impact without airbags is 5 star. Honda did
it right...lots of the S crowd want more Horsepower, etc. Me. I'm very
satisfied as is.
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