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Mihaela Mihaylova

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Since: Aug 16, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:54 pm
Post subject: Rough Idle problem
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Hi,

I recently replaced the catalytic converter because the check engine light
would come on with P420 (catalyst efficiency below threshold (bank 1)). I
watched the O2 sensors with some software and they had similar outputs which
made me feel its the converter. After the change the back one is very
different than the front one so it seems that the new converter is working
much better than the old one.

Problem is that after the car warms up, when sitting at a stop sign pressing
the break there is a very bad vibration which I interpret as a rough idle.
If I switch to neutral or park, it goes away. It also seems to happen when I
go very slowly (almost without pushing the gas pedal) in reverse. Other than
that the car seems to run fine.

The car ran fine before I changed the converter.... The new converter is a
that Catco. My car is a '96 Toyota tercel with 105K miles on it.

Does anyone know why this started happening?

Thanks much!
Mihaela

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Ray O

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:14 pm
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"Mihaela Mihaylova" wrote in message

> Hi,
>
> I recently replaced the catalytic converter because the check engine light
> would come on with P420 (catalyst efficiency below threshold (bank 1)). I
> watched the O2 sensors with some software and they had similar outputs
> which
> made me feel its the converter. After the change the back one is very
> different than the front one so it seems that the new converter is working
> much better than the old one.
>
> Problem is that after the car warms up, when sitting at a stop sign
> pressing
> the break there is a very bad vibration which I interpret as a rough idle.
> If I switch to neutral or park, it goes away. It also seems to happen when
> I
> go very slowly (almost without pushing the gas pedal) in reverse. Other
> than
> that the car seems to run fine.
>
> The car ran fine before I changed the converter.... The new converter is a
> that Catco. My car is a '96 Toyota tercel with 105K miles on it.
>
> Does anyone know why this started happening?
>
> Thanks much!
> Mihaela
>
>
You did not mention another malfunction indicator light (check engine light)
so the first thing to check is idle speed with the transmission engaged and
compare it with the factory spec.

Check the plastic intake tube between the air filter and throttle body for
cracks or leaks.

If idle speed is low, check the idle air control valve.
--

Ray O
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Mihaela Mihaylova

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:36 am
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ok thanks much for the reply. Yeah there are no other codes and the check
engine light is off. I will follow your advice in a couple of weeks. I reset
the computer this morning so that it tries to re-learn the idle as I don't
think that we reset it after we changed the converter (I had cleared the MIL
a week or so before the repair).

Thanks again!
Mihaela

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message

>
> "Mihaela Mihaylova" wrote in message
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently replaced the catalytic converter because the check engine
>> light
>> would come on with P420 (catalyst efficiency below threshold (bank 1)). I
>> watched the O2 sensors with some software and they had similar outputs
>> which
>> made me feel its the converter. After the change the back one is very
>> different than the front one so it seems that the new converter is
>> working
>> much better than the old one.
>>
>> Problem is that after the car warms up, when sitting at a stop sign
>> pressing
>> the break there is a very bad vibration which I interpret as a rough
>> idle.
>> If I switch to neutral or park, it goes away. It also seems to happen
>> when I
>> go very slowly (almost without pushing the gas pedal) in reverse. Other
>> than
>> that the car seems to run fine.
>>
>> The car ran fine before I changed the converter.... The new converter is
>> a
>> that Catco. My car is a '96 Toyota tercel with 105K miles on it.
>>
>> Does anyone know why this started happening?
>>
>> Thanks much!
>> Mihaela
>>
>>
> You did not mention another malfunction indicator light (check engine
> light) so the first thing to check is idle speed with the transmission
> engaged and compare it with the factory spec.
>
> Check the plastic intake tube between the air filter and throttle body for
> cracks or leaks.
>
> If idle speed is low, check the idle air control valve.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:49 pm
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"Mihaela Mihaylova" wrote in message

> ok thanks much for the reply. Yeah there are no other codes and the check
> engine light is off. I will follow your advice in a couple of weeks. I
> reset the computer this morning so that it tries to re-learn the idle as I
> don't think that we reset it after we changed the converter (I had cleared
> the MIL a week or so before the repair).
>
> Thanks again!
> Mihaela
>

Also, check for vacuum leaks.

Good luck!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Mihaela Mihaylova" wrote in message
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently replaced the catalytic converter because the check engine
>>> light
>>> would come on with P420 (catalyst efficiency below threshold (bank 1)).
>>> I
>>> watched the O2 sensors with some software and they had similar outputs
>>> which
>>> made me feel its the converter. After the change the back one is very
>>> different than the front one so it seems that the new converter is
>>> working
>>> much better than the old one.
>>>
>>> Problem is that after the car warms up, when sitting at a stop sign
>>> pressing
>>> the break there is a very bad vibration which I interpret as a rough
>>> idle.
>>> If I switch to neutral or park, it goes away. It also seems to happen
>>> when I
>>> go very slowly (almost without pushing the gas pedal) in reverse. Other
>>> than
>>> that the car seems to run fine.
>>>
>>> The car ran fine before I changed the converter.... The new converter is
>>> a
>>> that Catco. My car is a '96 Toyota tercel with 105K miles on it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know why this started happening?
>>>
>>> Thanks much!
>>> Mihaela
>>>
>>>
>> You did not mention another malfunction indicator light (check engine
>> light) so the first thing to check is idle speed with the transmission
>> engaged and compare it with the factory spec.
>>
>> Check the plastic intake tube between the air filter and throttle body
>> for cracks or leaks.
>>
>> If idle speed is low, check the idle air control valve.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>
>
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