Revisiting turn signal relay - 87 325 is

You have a bad bulb or a bad ground at the lamp assembly.

The bulb has two filiments inside, one for the running/parking lights and
one for the turn indicator. The filiments are connected inside on the ground
side. The turn light can then get a ground from the running light side, but
this ground goes away if the headlamps (parking lamps) are on. Since the
running lights are a different size electrical load than the turn
indicators, the turn indicators blink at the wrong rate on the affected side
of the car.

You say the problem is on the front, but it could be either the front or the
rear. The light that does not come on is easy to find, but the light that
blinks fast can be caused by either end of the car. You need to clean the
grounds for the lamp housings and make sure the bubls are in good shape. One
test is to swap the bubls from left to right, if the bulb is the problem,
the trouble will follow. If the car is the problem (bad ground connection),
then the trouble will remain.




"Lance Reichert" wrote in message

> Hey folks,
>
> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are gone.
>
> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the bulb
> and it works when
> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage the
> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me. Any
> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lance
>
>
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thanks for the great advice.

I checked all bulbs and they work.

The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights are on
and it is weak.

Any thoughts?


"Lance Reichert" wrote in message

> Hey folks,
>
> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are gone.
>
> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the bulb
> and it works when
> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage the
> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me. Any
> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lance
>
>
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Did you read the part where I told you there are two filiments inside the
bulb?

You have a bad bulb, or a bad ground on the socket where the bulb is
mounted.





"Lance Reichert" wrote in message

> thanks for the great advice.
>
> I checked all bulbs and they work.
>
> The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights are on
> and it is weak.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are
>> gone.
>>
>> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the
>> bulb
>> and it works when
>> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage
>> the
>> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
>> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me. Any
>> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>
>
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thanks for reminding me of that jeff. I'll try swapping the owking bulbs
around and check the wires.



"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> Did you read the part where I told you there are two filiments inside the
> bulb?
>
> You have a bad bulb, or a bad ground on the socket where the bulb is
> mounted.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>
> > thanks for the great advice.
> >
> > I checked all bulbs and they work.
> >
> > The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights are on
> > and it is weak.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
> >
> >> Hey folks,
> >>
> >> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are
> >> gone.
> >>
> >> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the
> >> bulb
> >> and it works when
> >> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage
> >> the
> >> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
> >> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me.
Any
> >> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Lance
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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You might want to look inside the sockets. The outside of the socket is the
ground, the two small posts on the contact in the bottom are the voltage
sources.

I'm not sure how your car is built, but my 3 Series cars have a large
connector serving the lamp housings, and the ground for the left and right
are daisy-chained together, then grounded to a common point on the chassis
(body). Since you have one side of the car working right, and the other side
not, then I suspect the ground is okay and the socket itself is corroded.
Personally, I'm still on a defective bulb, but the socket is the next thing
in line. If you had a bad ground, odds favor both sides of the bulb not
operating, which brings us back to a bad bulb.



"Lance Reichert" wrote in message

> thanks for reminding me of that jeff. I'll try swapping the owking bulbs
> around and check the wires.
>
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
>
>> Did you read the part where I told you there are two filiments inside the
>> bulb?
>>
>> You have a bad bulb, or a bad ground on the socket where the bulb is
>> mounted.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>>
>> > thanks for the great advice.
>> >
>> > I checked all bulbs and they work.
>> >
>> > The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights are
>> > on
>> > and it is weak.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Hey folks,
>> >>
>> >> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are
>> >> gone.
>> >>
>> >> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the
>> >> bulb
>> >> and it works when
>> >> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage
>> >> the
>> >> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
>> >> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me.
> Any
>> >> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Lance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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reseating the fixture wire took care of the probelem.

Jeff - Thank you very much.


Lance


"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> You have a bad bulb or a bad ground at the lamp assembly.
>
> The bulb has two filiments inside, one for the running/parking lights and
> one for the turn indicator. The filiments are connected inside on the
ground
> side. The turn light can then get a ground from the running light side,
but
> this ground goes away if the headlamps (parking lamps) are on. Since the
> running lights are a different size electrical load than the turn
> indicators, the turn indicators blink at the wrong rate on the affected
side
> of the car.
>
> You say the problem is on the front, but it could be either the front or
the
> rear. The light that does not come on is easy to find, but the light that
> blinks fast can be caused by either end of the car. You need to clean the
> grounds for the lamp housings and make sure the bubls are in good shape.
One
> test is to swap the bubls from left to right, if the bulb is the problem,
> the trouble will follow. If the car is the problem (bad ground
connection),
> then the trouble will remain.
>
>
>
>
> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are
gone.
> >
> > So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the
bulb
> > and it works when
> > the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage
the
> > signal the flasher arrow in the dash
> > beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me. Any
> > sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lance
> >
> >
>
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reseating the fixture wire took care of the problem.

Jeff - Thank you very much.


Lance
"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> You might want to look inside the sockets. The outside of the socket is
the
> ground, the two small posts on the contact in the bottom are the voltage
> sources.
>
> I'm not sure how your car is built, but my 3 Series cars have a large
> connector serving the lamp housings, and the ground for the left and right
> are daisy-chained together, then grounded to a common point on the chassis
> (body). Since you have one side of the car working right, and the other
side
> not, then I suspect the ground is okay and the socket itself is corroded.
> Personally, I'm still on a defective bulb, but the socket is the next
thing
> in line. If you had a bad ground, odds favor both sides of the bulb not
> operating, which brings us back to a bad bulb.
>
>
>
> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>
> > thanks for reminding me of that jeff. I'll try swapping the owking bulbs
> > around and check the wires.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
> >
> >> Did you read the part where I told you there are two filiments inside
the
> >> bulb?
> >>
> >> You have a bad bulb, or a bad ground on the socket where the bulb is
> >> mounted.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
> >>
> >> > thanks for the great advice.
> >> >
> >> > I checked all bulbs and they work.
> >> >
> >> > The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights are
> >> > on
> >> > and it is weak.
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> Hey folks,
> >> >>
> >> >> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are
> >> >> gone.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced
the
> >> >> bulb
> >> >> and it works when
> >> >> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I
engage
> >> >> the
> >> >> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
> >> >> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me.
> > Any
> >> >> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Lance
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
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You're welcome.

The most common mistake in fixing lighting problems is over-thinking the
issue. This is especially true when a bad bulb is replaced by another bad
bulb. The problem is usually the bulb, then a grounding problem at the bulb
itself, then a grounding problem in the wiring harness. The further
(physically) one gets from any particular bulb, the larger (more lamps) the
problem becomes. A poor ground for a harness should cause more than a single
lamp to fail, and a single failed lamp will have a localized problem.



"Lance Reichert" wrote in message

> reseating the fixture wire took care of the problem.
>
> Jeff - Thank you very much.
>
>
> Lance
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
>
>> You might want to look inside the sockets. The outside of the socket is
> the
>> ground, the two small posts on the contact in the bottom are the voltage
>> sources.
>>
>> I'm not sure how your car is built, but my 3 Series cars have a large
>> connector serving the lamp housings, and the ground for the left and
>> right
>> are daisy-chained together, then grounded to a common point on the
>> chassis
>> (body). Since you have one side of the car working right, and the other
> side
>> not, then I suspect the ground is okay and the socket itself is corroded.
>> Personally, I'm still on a defective bulb, but the socket is the next
> thing
>> in line. If you had a bad ground, odds favor both sides of the bulb not
>> operating, which brings us back to a bad bulb.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>>
>> > thanks for reminding me of that jeff. I'll try swapping the owking
>> > bulbs
>> > around and check the wires.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Did you read the part where I told you there are two filiments inside
> the
>> >> bulb?
>> >>
>> >> You have a bad bulb, or a bad ground on the socket where the bulb is
>> >> mounted.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> > thanks for the great advice.
>> >> >
>> >> > I checked all bulbs and they work.
>> >> >
>> >> > The front passenger side turn signal works only if the headlights
>> >> > are
>> >> > on
>> >> > and it is weak.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lance Reichert" wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hey folks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> gone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced
> the
>> >> >> bulb
>> >> >> and it works when
>> >> >> the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I
> engage
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> signal the flasher arrow in the dash
>> >> >> beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to
>> >> >> me.
>> > Any
>> >> >> sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lance
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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Lance Reichert wrote:
>
>I reached out for help with this a few weeks ago and the threads are gone.
>
>So, my passenger side front turn signal does not work. I replaced the bulb
>and it works when
>the headlights are turned on but not as the turn signal. When I engage the
>signal the flasher arrow in the dash
>beeps very quickly - seems like a warning. Fixing bmws is new to me. Any
>sugestions would be greatly appreciaterd.

You are a troll. This joke is not funny. Please go away.
--scott

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