Celica Reversing Beep

"Steph" wrote in message

> I've been driving for over 40 years, and never felt the need to be
> reminded when I'm in reverse gear. So how can I disable the infuriating
> beep in my new Celica? The dealer tells me it can't be done. I don't
> believe them!

The beep is not to remind you that you are backing up, but, rather, to warn
others, like pedestrians, that you are backing up. And the pedestrians may
be in a location where you can't see them, so it helpful, even with the best
of drivers.

Jeff
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> What model year Celica?
> Does it have an automatic or a manual transmission/
> What country are you in?
> Where is the beep coming from?
> --

It's a 2006 vvt-i 1.8 litre standard UK model. The beep comes from
somewhere behind the dash ... and no, I'm not going to rip the dash out to
try and locate it!
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"Steph" wrote in message

>> What model year Celica?
>> Does it have an automatic or a manual transmission/
>> What country are you in?
>> Where is the beep coming from?
>> --
>
> It's a 2006 vvt-i 1.8 litre standard UK model. The beep comes from
> somewhere behind the dash ... and no, I'm not going to rip the dash out to
> try and locate it!

I do not know if the beeper is something that is required in the U.K. or
not, so rather than telling you how to disable it, I'll provide some hints
on how to check its function.

The term "standard" is not used very much in the U.S. any more because the
standard transmission on many cars sole here is now an automatic, but I'll
assume that your car has a manually shifted transmission.

I asked about the transmission type because it is easier to trace wiring for
a manual transmission than an automatic transmission. You can take a look
up underneath the dash to see if the beeper is readily visible, but I was
not going to suggest disassembling the dashboard, because doing so often
results in squeaks and rattles.

There is a switch, either on the shifter, or on the transmission itself,
that controls the backup lights. The backup light switch may also control
the beeper, or there may be separate switch that can be disconnected or
bypassed. There should be a switch somewhere near the shifter mechanism on
the transmission. If you unplug the switch and the backup lights and beeper
both stop working, then the switch controls both functions. If unplugging
the switch only disables the lights or beeper but not both, then there are
separate switches for the backup lights and beeper. Another possibility is
that there are 2 switches near the shifter, 1 for the lights and 1 for the
beeper.

Another place to look for the backup and/or beeper switch is underneath the
dust boot for the shift lever.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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> The beep is not to remind you that you are backing up, but, rather, to
> warn
> others, like pedestrians, that you are backing up. And the pedestrians may
> be in a location where you can't see them, so it helpful, even with the
> best of drivers.
>
> Jeff

I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's only
designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
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"Steph" wrote in message

>
>> The beep is not to remind you that you are backing up, but, rather, to
>> warn
>> others, like pedestrians, that you are backing up. And the pedestrians
>> may be in a location where you can't see them, so it helpful, even with
>> the best of drivers.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's only
> designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.

I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do so
outside the vehicle.

However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
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>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's only
>> designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
>
> I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do
> so outside the vehicle.
>
> However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
Yes, I should've explained that in the UK a Celica is a 2+2 sports coupe.
Now, I can understand a warning beep for a senior citizen's car ... but I'm
still the right side of 60, just ... and also on pickups and vans. But a
sports coupe? What planet are Toyota on? No other 'family' vehicle in the
UK I'm aware of has this 'feature', and it's one I'd happily do without. If
only I could. Apart from that I like the car.
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"Steph" wrote in message

>>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's only
>>> designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
>>
>> I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do
>> so outside the vehicle.
>>
>> However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
> Yes, I should've explained that in the UK a Celica is a 2+2 sports coupe.
> Now, I can understand a warning beep for a senior citizen's car ... but
> I'm still the right side of 60, just ... and also on pickups and vans.
> But a sports coupe? What planet are Toyota on? No other 'family' vehicle
> in the UK I'm aware of has this 'feature', and it's one I'd happily do
> without. If only I could. Apart from that I like the car.

And in a few years, when you're 61, will you be on the wrong side of 60?

Being a sports coupe, there probably are a lot of teens who drive it. They
are also likely to put the gear into reverse and go backwards instead of
forwards.

Jeff
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>
> I do not know if the beeper is something that is required in the U.K. or
> not, so rather than telling you how to disable it, I'll provide some hints
> on how to check its function.

No, it's definitely not a legal requirement in the UK - in fact this is the
only model I know of that has it. Of course, the reversing light is
mandatory, so I can't disable that. I'll look underneath the gearshift
boot, but I was hoping it might be a case of pulling a unit from the fusebox
or wherever. Toyota dealer was a waste of time - also told me that the
creaking sunroof was a feature of this model!
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Toyota build their vehicles to match the intelligence level of their average
buyers, not their smarter buyers. The enunciator is likely a plug in,
remove it WBMA

mike

"Steph" wrote in message

> I've been driving for over 40 years, and never felt the need to be
> reminded when I'm in reverse gear. So how can I disable the infuriating
> beep in my new Celica? The dealer tells me it can't be done. I don't
> believe them!
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I thought you believed most teens were smart?

mike


"Jeff" wrote in message

>
> "Steph" wrote in message
>
>>>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's
>>>> only designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
>>>
>>> I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do
>>> so outside the vehicle.
>>>
>>> However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
>> Yes, I should've explained that in the UK a Celica is a 2+2 sports coupe.
>> Now, I can understand a warning beep for a senior citizen's car ... but
>> I'm still the right side of 60, just ... and also on pickups and vans.
>> But a sports coupe? What planet are Toyota on? No other 'family'
>> vehicle in the UK I'm aware of has this 'feature', and it's one I'd
>> happily do without. If only I could. Apart from that I like the car.
>
> And in a few years, when you're 61, will you be on the wrong side of 60?
>
>
> Being a sports coupe, there probably are a lot of teens who drive it. They
> are also likely to put the gear into reverse and go backwards instead of
> forwards.
>
> Jeff
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:18:09 +0000, Steph wrote:

>>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's
>>> only designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
>>
>> I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do
>> so outside the vehicle.
>>
>> However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
> Yes, I should've explained that in the UK a Celica is a 2+2 sports coupe.
> Now, I can understand a warning beep for a senior citizen's car ... but
> I'm still the right side of 60, just ... and also on pickups and vans.
> But a sports coupe? What planet are Toyota on? No other 'family' vehicle
> in the UK I'm aware of has this 'feature', and it's one I'd happily do
> without. If only I could. Apart from that I like the car.


Interesting...we don't have that in the US. But, I'm sure you'll agree,
visibility out of the rear of that car is negligible! It may be some local
or country-wide ordinance that cars like these be fitted with the alarm.

And you said New. New New or New to You? They are no longer selling
Celicas in the US, but I believe they are still being made in Japan. So,
since you guys have RHD, you get some cars we don't get (like the Nissan
Skyline...GRRRRRRRRR...)
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"Mike Hunter" wrote in message

>I thought you believed most teens were smart?

They are. They are also impulsive and often display poor judgement (like the
person who threatened me and then assaulted me while I was writing the
incident up). They show poor judgement in cars, which is why they have a
higher crash rate than more mature drivers, particularly when there are
other teens in the car.

If they are in a strange car, they might not be use to the particular
transmission (in Europe, manual (aka standard) transmissions are common),
and accidently put the car in reverse.

Being smart doesn't mean having good judgement.

Of course, that applies to people who are more mature (at leats physically).

Jeff

> mike
>
>
> "Jeff" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Steph" wrote in message
>>
>>>>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's
>>>>> only designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.
>>>>
>>>> I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep
>>>> do so outside the vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
>>> Yes, I should've explained that in the UK a Celica is a 2+2 sports
>>> coupe. Now, I can understand a warning beep for a senior citizen's car
>>> ... but I'm still the right side of 60, just ... and also on pickups
>>> and vans. But a sports coupe? What planet are Toyota on? No other
>>> 'family' vehicle in the UK I'm aware of has this 'feature', and it's one
>>> I'd happily do without. If only I could. Apart from that I like the
>>> car.
>>
>> And in a few years, when you're 61, will you be on the wrong side of 60?
>>
>>
>> Being a sports coupe, there probably are a lot of teens who drive it.
>> They are also likely to put the gear into reverse and go backwards
>> instead of forwards.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:54:58 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

>
>"Steph" wrote in message
>
>>
>>> The beep is not to remind you that you are backing up, but, rather, to
>>> warn
>>> others, like pedestrians, that you are backing up. And the pedestrians
>>> may be in a location where you can't see them, so it helpful, even with
>>> the best of drivers.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> I don't believe so - the beep is not audible outside the car - it's only
>> designed to irritate the hell out of occupants.

Irritating as it might be, it has a small significant use. You
obviously have the 6-speed manual transmission. As you have noticed,
reverse is very near 1st gear...poor placement if you ask me.
Although it takes more force to get into reverse, there is a segment
of people that confuse the two. They added the reverse beeping to
discern reverse from 1st gear. Toyota didn't want their clients
backing up on the car behind them on a red light that just turned
green. It's an anathema for good drivers like you and me but Toyota
found it necessary to make the car more "idiot proof."

All this brio could have been prevented by making the reverse like
Volkwagens' where they have to press down towards the shifter to make
it go into reverse.


>
>I stand corrected. In the US, most vehicles (mostly trucks) that beep do so
>outside the vehicle.
>
>However, it is not designed to irritate you, but to warn you.
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