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Since: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 87
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:55 pm
Post subject: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. Archived from groups: alt>autos>subaru (more info?)
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I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace radio
hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not critical to do now,
but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free time. The
dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that. Suggesting that they
are so old eveything could fail and I could crash etc. While I understand
they've been in there now since the car was new (some have been replaced by
the previous owner) I would rather enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of doing it
myself at minimal cost of parts.
Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a no-brainer job?
Or is it an experts only job?
Brad >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: May 13, 2005 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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i didnt know radios had hoses lol...
replacing hoses and belts is very easy... usually you need nothing more
than sockets for the belts and screwdrivers for the hoses
Bradley Walker wrote:
> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace radio
> hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not critical to do now,
> but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free time. The
> dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that. Suggesting that they
> are so old eveything could fail and I could crash etc. While I understand
> they've been in there now since the car was new (some have been replaced by
> the previous owner) I would rather enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of doing it
> myself at minimal cost of parts.
>
> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a no-brainer job?
> Or is it an experts only job?
>
> Brad >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: May 13, 2005 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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find a new mechanic... that place is a rip
Bradley Walker wrote:
> Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was specificied
> when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just radiator
> (whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said replacing
> the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
>
>
> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
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> > The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
> > removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley and
> > cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look at
> > www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price for a
> > timing belt change. Ed
> > "Bradley Walker" wrote in message
> >
> >> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace
> >> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not critical to
> >> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free
> >> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
> >> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could crash
> >> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car was new
> >> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather enjoy the
> >> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
> >>
> >> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a no-brainer
> >> job? Or is it an experts only job?
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >
> > >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: May 09, 2004 Posts: 312
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley
and cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look
at www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price
for a timing belt change. Ed
"Bradley Walker" wrote in message
> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to
> replace radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's
> not critical to do now, but I may want to attempt that later this
> fall if I have free time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet
> of $450 for that. Suggesting that they are so old eveything could
> fail and I could crash etc. While I understand they've been in
> there now since the car was new (some have been replaced by the
> previous owner) I would rather enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of doing
> it myself at minimal cost of parts.
>
> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a
> no-brainer job? Or is it an experts only job?
>
> Brad
> >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 87
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was specificied
when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just radiator
(whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said replacing
the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
"Edward Hayes" wrote in message
> The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
> removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley and
> cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look at
> www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price for a
> timing belt change. Ed
> "Bradley Walker" wrote in message
>
>> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace
>> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not critical to
>> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free
>> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
>> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could crash
>> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car was new
>> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather enjoy the
>> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
>>
>> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a no-brainer
>> job? Or is it an experts only job?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: May 09, 2004 Posts: 312
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Definitely find another mechanic. Ed
"Pop-N-Fresh" wrote in message
> find a new mechanic... that place is a rip
> Bradley Walker wrote:
>> Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was
>> specificied
>> when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just
>> radiator
>> (whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said
>> replacing
>> the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
>>
>>
>> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
>>
>> > The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which
>> > requires
>> > removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft
>> > pulley and
>> > cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look
>> > at
>> > www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical
>> > price for a
>> > timing belt change. Ed
>> > "Bradley Walker" wrote in
>> > message
>> >
>> >> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to
>> >> replace
>> >> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not
>> >> critical to
>> >> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have
>> >> free
>> >> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
>> >> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could
>> >> crash
>> >> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car
>> >> was new
>> >> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather
>> >> enjoy the
>> >> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
>> >>
>> >> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a
>> >> no-brainer
>> >> job? Or is it an experts only job?
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >
>> >
> >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 87
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I'm definately doing what I can to not use them. See the above thread
entitled "Replacing timing belt on `01 OBW" where the former service manager
has offered to perform the major 90k mile service for me at a much
discounted rate. For now though for smaller quickie things like oil changes
and multipoint inspection I do use the dealership because for under $30 it's
worth it in my time. Plus their over-exaggeration of problems I have can
give me an idea of what does need to be replaced/fixed in the next year or
so. So I like to think for now, while I use them for something small as oil
changes, I am not using them for large and outlandish services.
"Edward Hayes" wrote in message
> Definitely find another mechanic. Ed
> "Pop-N-Fresh" wrote in message
>
>> find a new mechanic... that place is a rip
>> Bradley Walker wrote:
>>> Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was
>>> specificied
>>> when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just
>>> radiator
>>> (whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said
>>> replacing
>>> the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
>>>
>>> > The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
>>> > removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley
>>> > and
>>> > cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look at
>>> > www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price for
>>> > a
>>> > timing belt change. Ed
>>> > "Bradley Walker" wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace
>>> >> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not
>>> >> critical to
>>> >> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free
>>> >> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
>>> >> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could
>>> >> crash
>>> >> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car was
>>> >> new
>>> >> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather enjoy
>>> >> the
>>> >> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a
>>> >> no-brainer
>>> >> job? Or is it an experts only job?
>>> >>
>>> >> Brad
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: May 13, 2005 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:46 am
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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no offense... but anyone who charges $90 for a damn radiator hose needs
to be shot.
Bradley Walker wrote:
> I'm definately doing what I can to not use them. See the above thread
> entitled "Replacing timing belt on `01 OBW" where the former service manager
> has offered to perform the major 90k mile service for me at a much
> discounted rate. For now though for smaller quickie things like oil changes
> and multipoint inspection I do use the dealership because for under $30 it's
> worth it in my time. Plus their over-exaggeration of problems I have can
> give me an idea of what does need to be replaced/fixed in the next year or
> so. So I like to think for now, while I use them for something small as oil
> changes, I am not using them for large and outlandish services.
>
>
>
>
> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
>
> > Definitely find another mechanic. Ed
> > "Pop-N-Fresh" wrote in message
> >
> >> find a new mechanic... that place is a rip
> >> Bradley Walker wrote:
> >>> Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was
> >>> specificied
> >>> when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just
> >>> radiator
> >>> (whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said
> >>> replacing
> >>> the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
> >>> > removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley
> >>> > and
> >>> > cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look at
> >>> > www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price for
> >>> > a
> >>> > timing belt change. Ed
> >>> > "Bradley Walker" wrote in message
> >>> >
> >>> >> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to replace
> >>> >> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not
> >>> >> critical to
> >>> >> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have free
> >>> >> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
> >>> >> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could
> >>> >> crash
> >>> >> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car was
> >>> >> new
> >>> >> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather enjoy
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a
> >>> >> no-brainer
> >>> >> job? Or is it an experts only job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Brad
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >
> > >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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Since: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 87
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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None taken, and I wholeheartedly agree. That's why I figured that they were
exaggerating the seriousness of the leak (if there is one - I'll be getting
a second opinion soon) but do take it with a grain of salt to at least
investigate on my own to see if there is any credibility to any of their
repair claims.
"Pop-N-Fresh" wrote in message
> no offense... but anyone who charges $90 for a damn radiator hose needs
> to be shot.
> Bradley Walker wrote:
>> I'm definately doing what I can to not use them. See the above thread
>> entitled "Replacing timing belt on `01 OBW" where the former service
>> manager
>> has offered to perform the major 90k mile service for me at a much
>> discounted rate. For now though for smaller quickie things like oil
>> changes
>> and multipoint inspection I do use the dealership because for under $30
>> it's
>> worth it in my time. Plus their over-exaggeration of problems I have can
>> give me an idea of what does need to be replaced/fixed in the next year
>> or
>> so. So I like to think for now, while I use them for something small as
>> oil
>> changes, I am not using them for large and outlandish services.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
>>
>> > Definitely find another mechanic. Ed
>> > "Pop-N-Fresh" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> find a new mechanic... that place is a rip
>> >> Bradley Walker wrote:
>> >>> Nope, no timing belt included in that. The only thing that was
>> >>> specificied
>> >>> when I pressed the service manager to break down the costs was just
>> >>> radiator
>> >>> (whoops, didn't mean to type radio - heh) hoses, belts. He said
>> >>> replacing
>> >>> the one radiator hose that has a pinhole leak would run $89.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Edward Hayes" wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>> > The $450 probably includes the camshaft timing belt which requires
>> >>> > removing all the AC,PS and alternator belts. Then crankshaft pulley
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > cam covers to get to the timing belt. Before you jump take a look
>> >>> > at
>> >>> > www.endwrench.com for pictures & details. $450 is a typical price
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > timing belt change. Ed
>> >>> > "Bradley Walker" wrote in message
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I'm curious as to how hard it is and what tools are needed to
>> >>> >> replace
>> >>> >> radio hoses and other needed hoses/belts in my OBW? It's not
>> >>> >> critical to
>> >>> >> do now, but I may want to attempt that later this fall if I have
>> >>> >> free
>> >>> >> time. The dealership wanted to rape my wallet of $450 for that.
>> >>> >> Suggesting that they are so old eveything could fail and I could
>> >>> >> crash
>> >>> >> etc. While I understand they've been in there now since the car
>> >>> >> was
>> >>> >> new
>> >>> >> (some have been replaced by the previous owner) I would rather
>> >>> >> enjoy
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> warm fuzzy feeling of doing it myself at minimal cost of parts.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Is this something in the Chilton/haynes manuals? Or is it a
>> >>> >> no-brainer
>> >>> >> job? Or is it an experts only job?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Brad
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
> >> Stay informed about: Replacing hoses & belts in my `01 OBW. |
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