Priming a diesel 205

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:52:36 -0000, Tom Burton
<thomasburton7.DeleteThis@freezingcoldmail.com> wrote:

>
>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>
> How does that work?
>
>


Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:52:36 -0000, Tom Burton
<thomasburton7.RemoveThis@freezingcoldmail.com> wrote:

>
>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>
> How does that work?
>
>


Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:52:36 -0000, Tom Burton
<thomasburton7.TakeThisOut@freezingcoldmail.com> wrote:

>
>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>
> How does that work?
>
>


Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>
>> How does that work?

>Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.

I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
it didn't sound good.

Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>
>> How does that work?

>Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.

I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
it didn't sound good.

Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.TakeThisOut@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>
>> How does that work?

>Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.

I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
it didn't sound good.

Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.TakeThisOut@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>
>> How does that work?

>Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.

I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
it didn't sound good.

Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:10:53 -0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE.RemoveThis@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
> saying something like:
>
>>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>>
>>> How does that work?
>
>> Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>> Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
>
> I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
> engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
> levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
> on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
> noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
> exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
> it didn't sound good.
>
> Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
> and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.


It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:10:53 -0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE.RemoveThis@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
> saying something like:
>
>>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>>
>>> How does that work?
>
>> Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>> Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
>
> I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
> engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
> levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
> on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
> noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
> exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
> it didn't sound good.
>
> Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
> and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.


It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:10:53 -0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE DeleteThis @REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto DeleteThis @dmx512.co.uk>
> saying something like:
>
>>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>>
>>> How does that work?
>
>> Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>> Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
>
> I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
> engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
> levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
> on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
> noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
> exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
> it didn't sound good.
>
> Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
> and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.


It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:10:53 -0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE.RemoveThis@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
> saying something like:
>
>>> The old air filter off , burning rag/ blowlamp held by air inlet still
>>>> works (much less damaging than easy start), allow just the end of the
>>>> flame to be dragged into the air inlet whilst cranking.
>>>
>>> How does that work?
>
>> Same as a flame start, you put some pre vaporised fuel into the chamber.
>> Easistarts easier & less likely to set your engine on fire.
>
> I've never felt good about Easystart - many an old hand used to say
> engines got 'addicted' to it. Turns out they were right - the detonation
> levels can bugger rings and the engine won't cold start from that point
> on. My own misgivings were based on that, but mainly from the nasty
> noise an Easystarted engine was making as it fired. I didn't know
> exactly what was taking place inside, but on general principle I thought
> it didn't sound good.
>
> Otoh, I've found the burning rag/blowlamp method to be reliable, cheap
> and simple. Never set a car or truck alight with it either - yet.


It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.RemoveThis@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
>altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
>You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.

Problem is, plenty people don't know how much - who ever reads the
instructions? A small amount will suffice, but yer average EasyStart
user just wellies it in.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" <newsto.TakeThisOut@dmx512.co.uk>
saying something like:

>It's the same principle though. We used to supply ether starters for high
>altitude applications on diesels, flame starters for cold temperatures.
>You've got to really overdo it to damage the rings.

Problem is, plenty people don't know how much - who ever reads the
instructions? A small amount will suffice, but yer average EasyStart
user just wellies it in.
--

Dave
SE6a
 >> Stay informed about: Priming a diesel 205