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KiwiinOz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:23 am
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I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?

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Jim Yanik2

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:51 pm
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"KiwiinOz" wrote in


 > I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
 > and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
 >
 >

I got a noticable increase in power with my Integra CAI.
Honda Tuning Magazine did testing of short rams,CAIs last year,both flow
bench and dyno on an RSX-S and the CAIs gave a 20 hp increase.

the intake NOISE level increaes dramatically,too.

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Cosmin N.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:28 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:



 >
 >
  >>I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
  >>and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 > I got a noticable increase in power with my Integra CAI.
 > Honda Tuning Magazine did testing of short rams,CAIs last year,both flow
 > bench and dyno on an RSX-S and the CAIs gave a 20 hp increase.
 >
 > the intake NOISE level increaes dramatically,too.
 >

The RSX did gain almost 20hp, however it is a special case, because the
stock intake was extremely restrictive. I haven't read the actual
article, but I think it was the base model, not the RXS-s. My 5th gen
Prelude would not benefit much from a CAI, since it doesn't increase the
power by more than 5hp.

The point is untill you dyno your car you won't know for certain how
much hp you gained from a CAI. In some cases the increased noise might
make the car feel faster, when in reality it may be almost the same.

Cosmin
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KiwiinOz

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:51 am
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I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
Any noticable improvements found out there?
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Cosmin N.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:03 am
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KiwiinOz wrote:

 > I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
 > Any noticable improvements found out there?
 >

If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.

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Steve Bigelow

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:07 am
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"Cosmin N." wrote in message

 > KiwiinOz wrote:
 >
  >> I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
  >> Any noticable improvements found out there?
  >>
 >
 > If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
 >
 > Cosmin

Oh please, do explain.
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Jim Yanik2

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:13 pm
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"Cosmin N." wrote in


 > Jim Yanik wrote:
 >


  >>
  >>
   >>>I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991
   >>>Prelude and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>
  >> I got a noticable increase in power with my Integra CAI.
  >> Honda Tuning Magazine did testing of short rams,CAIs last year,both
  >> flow bench and dyno on an RSX-S and the CAIs gave a 20 hp increase.
  >>
  >> the intake NOISE level increaes dramatically,too.
  >>
 >
 > The RSX did gain almost 20hp, however it is a special case, because
 > the stock intake was extremely restrictive. I haven't read the actual
 > article, but I think it was the base model, not the RXS-s.

I believe you are right about the stock RSX.

 > My 5th gen
 > Prelude would not benefit much from a CAI, since it doesn't increase
 > the power by more than 5hp.
 >
 > The point is untill you dyno your car you won't know for certain how
 > much hp you gained from a CAI. In some cases the increased noise might
 > make the car feel faster, when in reality it may be almost the same.
 >
 > Cosmin
 >

What makes you think the Prelude's stock intake is not as restrictive as
the Integra's?

It might be even more restrictive;larger displacement of the 2.0 L Prelude
compared to the 1.8L of the GSR.

In referring to my noticeable increase in power,I refer to the seat-of-the-
pants feel of accelleration,not noise.

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Jim Yanik2

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:16 pm
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"KiwiinOz" wrote in


 > I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
 > Any noticable improvements found out there?
 >

Then pay attention to tire inflation and driving style.
Feather-foot it.Narrower,harder tires get better mileage.

The intended use of CAIs are for more power,not fuel economy.

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Eightupman

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:13 pm
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he has to mean the psycological experience of getting less gas mileage. You
know, the one where you bolt on HP and then you feel you have to drag race
from light to light. The constant mashing of the accelerator will surely
cause poor gas mileage!!!


"Steve Bigelow" wrote in message

 >


  > > KiwiinOz wrote:
  > >
   > >> I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
   > >> Any noticable improvements found out there?
   > >>
  > >
  > > If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
  > >
  > > Cosmin
 >
 > Oh please, do explain.
 >
 >
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test14

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:29 am
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Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.

"KiwiinOz" wrote in message

 > I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
 > and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:49 pm
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I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice much
other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I really like the
new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares the hell out of
people.


"test" wrote in message

 > Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
 > The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
 > short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.
 >


  >> I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
  >> and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
  >>
 >
 >
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Jim Yanik2

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:22 am
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"JEHU" wrote in


 > I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
 > much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
 > really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
 > the hell out of people.
 >

When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to have
~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
increases,and slight torque increases.
Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.



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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:32 am
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that just makes me want a CAI now Smile


"Jim Yanik" wrote in message



 >
  >> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
  >> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
  >> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
  >> the hell out of people.
  >>
 >
 > When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
 > several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
 > have
 > ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
 > increases,and slight torque increases.
 > Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > Jim Yanik
 > jyanik-at-kua.net
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:37 pm
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"JEHU" wrote in


 > that just makes me want a CAI now Smile
 >
 >




  >>
   >>> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
   >>> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
   >>> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
   >>> the hell out of people.
   >>>
  >>
  >> When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
  >> several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
  >> have
  >> ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
  >> increases,and slight torque increases.
  >> Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> --
  >> Jim Yanik
  >> jyanik-at-kua.net
 >
 >
 >

Ebay has some at low prices.I bought a Bomz CAI for my Integra GSR for
$60,including shipping. It does not have a bypass valve,though,but is
totally satisfactory.

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Cosmin N.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:16 pm
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Steve Bigelow wrote:

> "Cosmin N." wrote in message
>
>
>>KiwiinOz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
>>>Any noticable improvements found out there?
>>>
>>
>>If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
> Oh please, do explain.

I just noticed your reply to my post. I said a CAI would make the car
less fuel efficient because it allows more air into the engine. Since
the mixture ratio should be constant, it makes sense that there should
be more gas going into the engine as well. if only the air intake would
increase but the gas would stay the same the car would run lean.

If this reasoning is wrong, please correct me.

Cosmin
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