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Since: Feb 27, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:18 pm
Post subject: Power locks on VW Golf
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The power locks on my 1998 VW Golf have been a real pain in the ass.
Originally I went to a local dealership (Volkswagen Waterloo) to buy an
extra key remote, since the old one was falling apart.
At the time there was no problem at all with the vacuum pumps or anything,
always reliable and power locks were working fine both from inside the car
(switch near heater controls) and from outside (door locks and old remote).
The dealership attempted to program the new remote using the car. After
they initialized the programming mode, the car then stopped responding to
the remotes - both the old and new remotes. The car receives the signal (it
will beep and flash the alarm light) but the door locks do not move.
Worse, after that programming attempt, the physical switch inside the car
that locks all doors also stopped working on the power locks. Also, the
power locks no longer activate when the physical key is used to lock the
car. However I do notice that when I use the power lock switch from inside
the car, I hear a click near the rear of the car. But the locks don't move.
Basically, the power locks entirely stopped working and the dealership
doesn't know what's wrong. Any idea what I should try?
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Jem Berkes
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jem Berkes" <jb RemoveThis @users.pc9.org> wrote in message
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> The power locks on my 1998 VW Golf have been a real pain in the ass.
> Originally I went to a local dealership (Volkswagen Waterloo) to buy an
> extra key remote, since the old one was falling apart.
>
> At the time there was no problem at all with the vacuum pumps or anything,
> always reliable and power locks were working fine both from inside the car
> (switch near heater controls) and from outside (door locks and old
> remote).
>
> The dealership attempted to program the new remote using the car. After
> they initialized the programming mode, the car then stopped responding to
> the remotes - both the old and new remotes. The car receives the signal
> (it
> will beep and flash the alarm light) but the door locks do not move.
>
> Worse, after that programming attempt, the physical switch inside the car
> that locks all doors also stopped working on the power locks. Also, the
> power locks no longer activate when the physical key is used to lock the
> car. However I do notice that when I use the power lock switch from inside
> the car, I hear a click near the rear of the car. But the locks don't
> move.
>
> Basically, the power locks entirely stopped working and the dealership
> doesn't know what's wrong. Any idea what I should try?
>
> --
> Jem Berkes
> www.sysdesign.ca
nothing
the garage have to resolve as they broke a perfectly working system. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ah... the "ever since" the dealer tried to fix my car it broke.
"Neil - Usenet" <usenet1.TakeThisOut@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Jem Berkes" <jb.TakeThisOut@users.pc9.org> wrote in message
> news:Xns98F1A64692BFFjbuserspc9org@216.196.97.131...
>> The power locks on my 1998 VW Golf have been a real pain in the ass.
>> Originally I went to a local dealership (Volkswagen Waterloo) to buy an
>> extra key remote, since the old one was falling apart.
>>
>> At the time there was no problem at all with the vacuum pumps or
>> anything,
>> always reliable and power locks were working fine both from inside the
>> car
>> (switch near heater controls) and from outside (door locks and old
>> remote).
>>
>> The dealership attempted to program the new remote using the car. After
>> they initialized the programming mode, the car then stopped responding to
>> the remotes - both the old and new remotes. The car receives the signal
>> (it
>> will beep and flash the alarm light) but the door locks do not move.
>>
>> Worse, after that programming attempt, the physical switch inside the car
>> that locks all doors also stopped working on the power locks. Also, the
>> power locks no longer activate when the physical key is used to lock the
>> car. However I do notice that when I use the power lock switch from
>> inside
>> the car, I hear a click near the rear of the car. But the locks don't
>> move.
>>
>> Basically, the power locks entirely stopped working and the dealership
>> doesn't know what's wrong. Any idea what I should try?
>>
>> --
>> Jem Berkes
>> www.sysdesign.ca
>
> nothing
>
> the garage have to resolve as they broke a perfectly working system.
> >> Stay informed about: Power locks on VW Golf |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Neil - Usenet" <usenet1.DeleteThis@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:yojJh.106103
$1E3.59950@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> nothing
>
> the garage have to resolve as they broke a perfectly working system.
They (Volkswagen Waterloo in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada) charged me $50 of
labour so far for the diagnostics that they did. They claimed that a flaw
in the computer was unable to bring it back out of programming mode. So
they insisted it was not their fault, since the problem existed before they
touched the car even though their action of programming it obviously
triggered whatever problem was there.
Does this sound plausible?
When I look at the potential labour charges for them to keep working on
this, I think to myself I can do without power locks.
I keep mentioning the dealership name so it shows up in google searches.
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Jem Berkes
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:20:53 -0500, Jem Berkes <jb RemoveThis @users.pc9.org> wrote:
i did a few searches on , " remote key programing jetta golf "
from what i've read , to program the new key is very simple
something like : put the new key in the dr. door , and with a old key in the ignition
twist the door key to the unlock position and hold it there till the car beeps.
if you used the remote all time and never used the door key lock
it might have have / had a poor contact when the dealer tried.?
MAYBE if you just work the lock several times with the key and try the
programing routine it'll work for you.
Don't take my instructions as the exact way to do it , do a search and make sure.
It might be worth a try . >> Stay informed about: Power locks on VW Golf |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sounds like maybe the door lock vacuum pump went out.
stuff happens sometimes. 
"Jem Berkes" <jb.DeleteThis@users.pc9.org> wrote in message
news:Xns98F1A64692BFFjbuserspc9org@216.196.97.131...
> The power locks on my 1998 VW Golf have been a real pain in the ass.
> Originally I went to a local dealership (Volkswagen Waterloo) to buy an
> extra key remote, since the old one was falling apart.
>
> At the time there was no problem at all with the vacuum pumps or anything,
> always reliable and power locks were working fine both from inside the car
> (switch near heater controls) and from outside (door locks and old
> remote).
>
> The dealership attempted to program the new remote using the car. After
> they initialized the programming mode, the car then stopped responding to
> the remotes - both the old and new remotes. The car receives the signal
> (it
> will beep and flash the alarm light) but the door locks do not move.
>
> Worse, after that programming attempt, the physical switch inside the car
> that locks all doors also stopped working on the power locks. Also, the
> power locks no longer activate when the physical key is used to lock the
> car. However I do notice that when I use the power lock switch from inside
> the car, I hear a click near the rear of the car. But the locks don't
> move.
>
> Basically, the power locks entirely stopped working and the dealership
> doesn't know what's wrong. Any idea what I should try?
>
> --
> Jem Berkes
> www.sysdesign.ca >> Stay informed about: Power locks on VW Golf |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Power locks on VW Golf [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Sounds like maybe the door lock vacuum pump went out.
> stuff happens sometimes.
OK, I just found out the pump isn't dead. I opened up the trunk and
located the vacuum pump unit which is sandwiched in some foam, right
behind the rear tail lamp fixture.
I cleaned the electrical connector and reseated it with some
dielectric grease. The power locks are working now, intermittently.
Does that sound like an electrical problem, rather than a bad pump
unit?
I have some electrical tools so maybe I can diagnose that if I know
what to look for. Any idea how much current the pump should be
drawing while moving the locks? What are other things to look for?
Thanks for your help
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