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Since: Sep 27, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:37 pm
Post subject: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader
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Since: Jun 23, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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David wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of buying one of these:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150232912484
>
> I have a 2002 206 ('51 plate), but want to make sure it will work before
> I buy. Is the 206 at that time fully eobd compliant - ie will I be able
> to read and erase codes?
>
> Thanks
I believe OBD was mandated for all EU *petrol* cars since 1st Jan 2000,
with a 1 year extension for cars already in production at that time.
So, in theory a 2002 *built* car should be fine. However, it may have
been manufactured before that point.
Also, I understand that OBD wasn't required for diesel cars until 2003
(existing) / 2004 (all).
(for petrol)
"8.1. Vehicles with positive-ignition engines
With effect from 1 January 2000 for new types and from 1 January 2001
for all types,
vehicles of category M1, except vehicles the maximum mass of which
exceeds 2 500
kg, and vehicles of category N1 class I, must be fitted with an on-board
diagnostic
(OBD) system for emission control in accordance with Annex XI."
(for diesel)
"8.2. Vehicles with compression-ignition engines
Vehicles of category M1, except
– vehicles designed to carry more than six occupants including the driver,
– vehicles whose maximum mass exceeds 2 500 kg,
from 1 January 2003 for new types and from 1 January 2004 for all types,
must be
fitted with an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system for emission control in
accordance
with Annex XI."
<http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/pollutant_emission/pollutant_emission.pdf>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks David.
I've gone ahead and bought it, I can always put it back on Ebay if it
doesn't work with my car.
I've had a look at my OBD pins and it appears they support ISO 9141-2,
which the reader also supports. But of course that doesn't mean it'll
output the correct info, so we'll see.
David
David Hearn wrote:
> David wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am thinking of buying one of these:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150232912484
>>
>> I have a 2002 206 ('51 plate), but want to make sure it will work
>> before I buy. Is the 206 at that time fully eobd compliant - ie will
>> I be able to read and erase codes?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I believe OBD was mandated for all EU *petrol* cars since 1st Jan 2000,
> with a 1 year extension for cars already in production at that time. So,
> in theory a 2002 *built* car should be fine. However, it may have been
> manufactured before that point.
>
> Also, I understand that OBD wasn't required for diesel cars until 2003
> (existing) / 2004 (all).
>
> (for petrol)
> "8.1. Vehicles with positive-ignition engines
>
> With effect from 1 January 2000 for new types and from 1 January 2001
> for all types,
> vehicles of category M1, except vehicles the maximum mass of which
> exceeds 2 500
> kg, and vehicles of category N1 class I, must be fitted with an on-board
> diagnostic
> (OBD) system for emission control in accordance with Annex XI."
>
> (for diesel)
> "8.2. Vehicles with compression-ignition engines
>
> Vehicles of category M1, except
> – vehicles designed to carry more than six occupants including the driver,
> – vehicles whose maximum mass exceeds 2 500 kg,
> from 1 January 2003 for new types and from 1 January 2004 for all types,
> must be
> fitted with an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system for emission control in
> accordance
> with Annex XI."
>
> <http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/pollutant_emission/pollutant_emission.pdf>
>
>
> D >> Stay informed about: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader |
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Since: Jun 23, 2005
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:57 am
Post subject: Re: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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My old 306 had the right connector and pins, but didn't output the right
info for normal OBD readers. However, that was a 1998 model, so far
from likely to be compliant compared to a 2002 model.
If I remember correctly, that link I sent also suggested that you could
not register a non-compliant vehicle after that date - so maybe not just
manufactured after that date. I'd be very surprised if they left it
that late to implement it.
Good luck!
David
David wrote:
> Thanks David.
>
> I've gone ahead and bought it, I can always put it back on Ebay if it
> doesn't work with my car.
>
> I've had a look at my OBD pins and it appears they support ISO 9141-2,
> which the reader also supports. But of course that doesn't mean it'll
> output the correct info, so we'll see.
>
> David
>
> David Hearn wrote:
>> David wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am thinking of buying one of these:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150232912484
>>>
>>> I have a 2002 206 ('51 plate), but want to make sure it will work
>>> before I buy. Is the 206 at that time fully eobd compliant - ie will
>>> I be able to read and erase codes?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> I believe OBD was mandated for all EU *petrol* cars since 1st Jan
>> 2000, with a 1 year extension for cars already in production at that
>> time. So, in theory a 2002 *built* car should be fine. However, it
>> may have been manufactured before that point.
>>
>> Also, I understand that OBD wasn't required for diesel cars until 2003
>> (existing) / 2004 (all).
>>
>> (for petrol)
>> "8.1. Vehicles with positive-ignition engines
>>
>> With effect from 1 January 2000 for new types and from 1 January 2001
>> for all types,
>> vehicles of category M1, except vehicles the maximum mass of which
>> exceeds 2 500
>> kg, and vehicles of category N1 class I, must be fitted with an
>> on-board diagnostic
>> (OBD) system for emission control in accordance with Annex XI."
>>
>> (for diesel)
>> "8.2. Vehicles with compression-ignition engines
>>
>> Vehicles of category M1, except
>> – vehicles designed to carry more than six occupants including the
>> driver,
>> – vehicles whose maximum mass exceeds 2 500 kg,
>> from 1 January 2003 for new types and from 1 January 2004 for all
>> types, must be
>> fitted with an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system for emission control
>> in accordance
>> with Annex XI."
>>
>> <http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/pollutant_emission/pollutant_emission.pdf>
>>
>>
>> D >> Stay informed about: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader |
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Since: Sep 27, 2006
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:40 am
Post subject: Re: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Good news is that the device works. It used the KWP2000 protocol and I
have cleared the code.
The code was p0420, which means that cat is running below efficiency
(though it could be the oxygen sensors).
Had a new exhaust fitted by KwikFit last year, so it could be their
cheap parts. I'll drive it for a while and see if the problem re-occurs.
David
David Hearn wrote:
> My old 306 had the right connector and pins, but didn't output the right
> info for normal OBD readers. However, that was a 1998 model, so far
> from likely to be compliant compared to a 2002 model.
>
> If I remember correctly, that link I sent also suggested that you could
> not register a non-compliant vehicle after that date - so maybe not just
> manufactured after that date. I'd be very surprised if they left it
> that late to implement it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> David
>
> David wrote:
>> Thanks David.
>>
>> I've gone ahead and bought it, I can always put it back on Ebay if it
>> doesn't work with my car.
>>
>> I've had a look at my OBD pins and it appears they support ISO 9141-2,
>> which the reader also supports. But of course that doesn't mean it'll
>> output the correct info, so we'll see.
>>
>> David
>>
>> David Hearn wrote:
>>> David wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of buying one of these:
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150232912484
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2002 206 ('51 plate), but want to make sure it will work
>>>> before I buy. Is the 206 at that time fully eobd compliant - ie
>>>> will I be able to read and erase codes?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I believe OBD was mandated for all EU *petrol* cars since 1st Jan
>>> 2000, with a 1 year extension for cars already in production at that
>>> time. So, in theory a 2002 *built* car should be fine. However, it
>>> may have been manufactured before that point.
>>>
>>> Also, I understand that OBD wasn't required for diesel cars until
>>> 2003 (existing) / 2004 (all).
>>>
>>> (for petrol)
>>> "8.1. Vehicles with positive-ignition engines
>>>
>>> With effect from 1 January 2000 for new types and from 1 January 2001
>>> for all types,
>>> vehicles of category M1, except vehicles the maximum mass of which
>>> exceeds 2 500
>>> kg, and vehicles of category N1 class I, must be fitted with an
>>> on-board diagnostic
>>> (OBD) system for emission control in accordance with Annex XI."
>>>
>>> (for diesel)
>>> "8.2. Vehicles with compression-ignition engines
>>>
>>> Vehicles of category M1, except
>>> – vehicles designed to carry more than six occupants including the
>>> driver,
>>> – vehicles whose maximum mass exceeds 2 500 kg,
>>> from 1 January 2003 for new types and from 1 January 2004 for all
>>> types, must be
>>> fitted with an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system for emission control
>>> in accordance
>>> with Annex XI."
>>>
>>> <http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/pollutant_emission/pollutant_emission.pdf>
>>>
>>>
>>> D >> Stay informed about: Peugeot 206 and OBD reader |
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