Miata Mx5 - BMW Z4 Compare

In article <12967b1kjidp1ad.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, Rex B <""> wrote:
>
>Richard Sexton wrote:
>> In article <1295tm1fnbthh0a.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, Rex B <""> wrote:
>>> Richard Sexton wrote:
>>>> They also compared some tricked our ricer, like 30K pounds
>>>> modded to a frogeye sprite. The Sprite was 3 secs faster.
>>> Yeah, but the Sprite was an all-out race car, and the course was a
>>> twisty, wet one. The ricers didn't realize they'd been had until it was
>>> over.
>>
>> Wellll, all out race car, what does that mean? It's still a stock
>> frogeye frame.
>
>If it's anything like the SCCA G or H Production cars on this side of
>the pond, or even prepared to Vintage specs, it's a highly refined race
>vehicle, despite it's humble beginnings. Those things run 13:1
>compression in the engine, too.

And?

Both cars were highly modified.


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Exactly.

I don't think the MGs were a bundle of joy in that department.

The best car is a RELIABLE car and the MX5 was that when it launched, was it
not?

DAS

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"Richard Sexton" <richard.TakeThisOut@news.vrx.net> wrote in message
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> One thing about those British cars, when they work they're great.
>
> Sorry. If, not when.
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Yeah, I guess so.

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"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst.RemoveThis@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
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> Considering that the MX-5 first appeared ten years after the demise of the
> affordable British sports car, that should probably be "would have been
> ten
> years later."
[...]
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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:46:37 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling" <ng.TakeThisOut@nospam.co.uk>
wrote:

>Exactly.
>
>I don't think the MGs were a bundle of joy in that department.

By the standards of the times, the MG-A and B, the Midget, and the Tr-3 through
8 were extremely reliable vehicles. Heck, I even put 90,000 miles on a 1972 Fiat
124 Spider in three years without anything but normal maintenance.

>The best car is a RELIABLE car and the MX5 was that when it launched, was it
>not?

Certainly, and that's reflective of the advances in technology. Today's power
trains should need only normal maintenance for at least 150,000 miles.

-- Larry
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:16:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave.DeleteThis@davenoise.co.uk>
wrote:

>Of course it's more reliable than cars with points ignition and carbs.

Especially *multiple* carbs. Especially SU's.

Uni-Syn fans, anyone? 8

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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:21:17 +0100, Robin Parkinson <robin RemoveThis @troutmag.org> wrote:

>(If you cornered me and insisted that I compare my Z4 to a Brit sportscar,
>then I'd probably have to compare it to a big Healey....)

Dead-on.

-- Larry
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:54:38 -0400, pltrgyst
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>On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:43:23 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling" <ng.DeleteThis@nospam.co.uk>
>wrote:
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>>The MX5 is the car that the British sports car should have been.
>
>Considering that the MX-5 first appeared ten years after the demise of the
>affordable British sports car, that should probably be "would have been ten
>years later."
>
MG didn't stop production before the first Miata was released -
weren't they making cars up until last year? How were those?
epbrown
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E Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:54:38 -0400, pltrgyst
> <pltrgyst.TakeThisOut@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:43:23 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling" <ng.TakeThisOut@nospam.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The MX5 is the car that the British sports car should have been.
>> Considering that the MX-5 first appeared ten years after the demise of the
>> affordable British sports car, that should probably be "would have been ten
>> years later."
>>
> MG didn't stop production before the first Miata was released -
> weren't they making cars up until last year? How were those?
> epbrown

MGBs were last made in 1980 IIRC.
Thee were cars produced in limited numbers after that that bore the MG
nameplate, but they were hardly comparable.
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"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst.RemoveThis@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:21:17 +0100, Robin Parkinson <robin.RemoveThis@troutmag.org>
> wrote:
>
>>(If you cornered me and insisted that I compare my Z4 to a Brit sportscar,
>>then I'd probably have to compare it to a big Healey....)
>
> Dead-on.
>
> -- Larry
>

My Z4 reminds me a bit of the Jensen-Healey I nearly bought in the 70's.

Tom K.
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In article <cOqdnbgL4IhWVAjZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d DeleteThis @pipex.net>,
Dori A Schmetterling <ng DeleteThis @nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>Exactly.
>
>I don't think the MGs were a bundle of joy in that department.
>
>The best car is a RELIABLE car and the MX5 was that when it launched, was it
>not?

Bah. Real sportscars only work weekends.

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:46:37 +0100, Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

> Exactly.
>
> I don't think the MGs were a bundle of joy in that department.

Actually, MGs were pretty much bulletproof, and still make a reliable
everyday proposition nowadays.

> The best car is a RELIABLE car and the MX5 was that when it launched,
> was it not?

Yup. The MX5/Miata may have looked a little like an Elan but it was
definitely the spiritual successor to the dear old MGB. And there's
nothing wrong with that.

(If you cornered me and insisted that I compare my Z4 to a Brit sportscar,
then I'd probably have to compare it to a big Healey....)

- Robin

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In article <pan.2006.06.19.21.21.17.29391.DeleteThis@troutmag.org>,
Robin Parkinson <robin.DeleteThis@troutmag.org> wrote:
> Yup. The MX5/Miata may have looked a little like an Elan but it was
> definitely the spiritual successor to the dear old MGB. And there's
> nothing wrong with that.

It *is* the spiritual successor to the Elan - that's what it was modelled
on. Superb handling, decent comfort, good steering, gearbox, brakes and
willing engine. Not just out and out performance, but fun to drive.

Really not a lot like a 'B' - however nice they can be. But I always
thought the Spriget a better car than the B.

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