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abhiutd




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:28 am
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Hello guys,
I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I can't believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??

Thanks,
Abhishek.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:48 pm
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On 10/11/2005 3:37 PM US(ET), abhiutd took fingers to keyboard, and
typed the following:

>Hello guys,
>I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG
>and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I
>can’t believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??
>
>Thanks,
>Abhishek.
>
>
>
EPA says 24 city, 30 highway, for that year Altima. Based on that, I
would say there is something wrong with your car. What that is, is
another question.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:47 pm
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abhiutd wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG
> and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I
> can’t believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??
>
> Thanks,
> Abhishek.
>
Have you given it a proper tune up? Spark plugs, air & fuel filter etc.
If so, then it's probably the coolant temp sensor. Same thing happened
on my wife's 98 Altima.

CD
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:55 pm
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:47:12 -0400, Codifus <codifus.RemoveThis@optonline.net>
wrote:

>abhiutd wrote:
>> Hello guys,
>> I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG
>> and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I
>> can’t believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Abhishek.
>>
>Have you given it a proper tune up? Spark plugs, air & fuel filter etc.
>If so, then it's probably the coolant temp sensor. Same thing happened
>on my wife's 98 Altima.
>
>CD


Oh soo little info!

seeing you just baught the car do a good thurough check on everything.
oversized tires would lead you to this symptom. how many miles are on
the engine? a worn engine will loose some efficiancy. also the millage
reported by EPA is only an average of vehicles tested. driving habits
will effect efficiancy as well. If you typicaly hold the throtle wide
open till you reach desired speed regularly you will consumme more gas
than average. If you drive thru a lot of hills you will consume more.
lots of driving in cold conditions as well will increas consumption.
everything needs to be in top condition, ignition system must be in
excellent condition. dont fall for these gimicks of split fire,
E-fire, or the wind tunnel. OEM parts are crucial components in the
fuel and especialy the ignition system. also make sure the EVAP system
is in good shape. A leaking EVAP system will allow some fuel to be
lost due to evaperation especialy noticable in hot climates and the
vehicle is rarly driven.

you will get better millage with premium gas and extend the life of
your engine, its a fact not a theory! many just argue the fact,
because they dont like the higher cost. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!



Spat
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abhiutd




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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:57 am
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Thank you CD ,SPAT and wilshak.
Well i haven't got it tuned up yet. CD, I've observed that the temp needle comes right in the middle of C and H pretty soon. Is that what you mean when you refer to coolant temp sensor? Can you elaborate a little about it like whats the proba nd what should i tell the mechannic. Sorry i dont have much knowledge on mech things.
SPAT, I'm really thinking of using premium gas cause i heard from few others about what you said . My car has 103K miles on it.

Thank you again guys for your your help!

Abhi.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:13 am
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SPAT wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:47:12 -0400, Codifus <codifus.TakeThisOut@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>abhiutd wrote:
>>
>>>Hello guys,
>>>I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG
>>>and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I
>>>can’t believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Abhishek.
>>>
>>
>>Have you given it a proper tune up? Spark plugs, air & fuel filter etc.
>>If so, then it's probably the coolant temp sensor. Same thing happened
>>on my wife's 98 Altima.
>>
>>CD
>
>
>
> Oh soo little info!
>
> seeing you just baught the car do a good thurough check on everything.
> oversized tires would lead you to this symptom. how many miles are on
> the engine? a worn engine will loose some efficiancy. also the millage
> reported by EPA is only an average of vehicles tested. driving habits
> will effect efficiancy as well. If you typicaly hold the throtle wide
> open till you reach desired speed regularly you will consumme more gas
> than average. If you drive thru a lot of hills you will consume more.
> lots of driving in cold conditions as well will increas consumption.
> everything needs to be in top condition, ignition system must be in
> excellent condition. dont fall for these gimicks of split fire,
> E-fire, or the wind tunnel. OEM parts are crucial components in the
> fuel and especialy the ignition system. also make sure the EVAP system
> is in good shape. A leaking EVAP system will allow some fuel to be
> lost due to evaperation especialy noticable in hot climates and the
> vehicle is rarly driven.
>
> you will get better millage with premium gas and extend the life of
> your engine, its a fact not a theory! many just argue the fact,
> because they dont like the higher cost. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!
>
>
>
> Spat
On this altima, using premium fuel will decrease your gas mileage AND
power. It was built for 87 octane, regular gas. There's no proven
longevity increase either from switching to premium.

Stick to regular.

CD
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:23 pm
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COD,
Thanks. What abt the coolant temp sensor you're talking about. How can i check that.

Abhishek.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:07 pm
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"abhiutd" <UseLinkToEmail.DeleteThis@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_686248_46e3a273fe562d31730f20a433adb07a@autoforumz.com...
> SPAT, I’m really thinking of using premium gas cause i heard from
> few others about what you said . My car has 103K miles on it.

I would not do it... check the manual for your car.
If it is not ment to be driven on premium it will not do
anything good to the car and it is just waste of money.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:04 am
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Here is some FYI info.

Mark Salem is a certified Master Tech and has/had several radio and TV
shows.

This is from
http://www.salemboysauto.com/salem-faqs/default.asp?Action=Q&ID=65

Q:
FAQ 53: Super or regular unleaded?
A: First, let me make this distinction. Pre 1981 cars do not have the
ability to change the timing if the engine is pinging. Cars and trucks made
after 1981 have a on board computer that will see the engine pinging and
retard the timing to eliminate the ping. Then the computer will try and
sneak the timing up, all the time watching to see when the ping comes back.
When it does, the timing is moved back a couple of degrees to eliminate the
ping.

AAA says only 5 % of the cars on the road today absolutely need super
unleaded and I agree. If you in doubt, try this. Have your spouse fill up
your car and NOT tell you what fuel they used. Do this 3-4 times. See if you
can tell the difference and / or guess which fuel they used. If you can't
tell the difference, there is no difference.

I use the cheapest gas I can find in my Corvette. In tests we ran, the zero
to 60 time was 1/10 of a second slower with regular when compared to super.
Not much reason to pay 35-50 cents more per gallon.

Here's the difference. Regular burns fast, one molecule ignite ten and ten
ignite a thousand and they ignite a million. The explosion is similar to a
balloon popping. We measure the explosion in milli-seconds. Super burns
slower, more like a someone letting a balloon go and fly around the room.
One molecule ignites 10, 10 ignite 20, and 20 ignite 30. Now don't start
writing me and telling me I'm over simplifying this, I already know it!

So super, because it burns longer, should give you more power, better
performance and better mpgs. However, the difference between the two
different burn times may only be .8 to 1.2 milliseconds of time and I am
quite sure no one I know can feel that. Yes, we can measure that on our dyno
in 0-60 mph runs and other tests, but unless you can FEEL the difference,
there is no difference.

Are there any other benefits to using super,
like cleaner injectors or a cleaner engine?

No. If you use the cheapest gas you can find, you will save lots of money
and when you need to replace, repair, clean your injectors, you'll have
plenty of $$ to do that. I can't tell you how many times I bid injector
repairs (some as high as $1300 for 6 new injectors on a V-6 Nissan) and the
customer says, "But I use super, doesn't that eliminate this repair?" and of
course the answer is no.

Also see FAQ # 34 Pinging Problems



This is from
http://www.salemboysauto.com/salem-faqs/default.asp?Action=Q&ID=33

Q:
FAQ 23: What can I do to get better fuel economy?
A: Review the following list and see what you have done and still need to
do:

1. Take the junk (old papers, tool boxes, golf clubs, snow chains) out of
your trunk.

2. Air up your tires to 35 psi.

3. Use a 5/30 or 10/30 engine oil.

4. Install fresh spark plugs.

5. Remove anything on the exterior of your car that you don't need that
catches the wind like a storage box mounted on the roof of your station
wagon.

6. Keep your windows up.

7. Use your cruise control every chance you get.

8. If your car is a 1981 or newer, don't warm up your engine longer than 1
minute before you drive away slowly. A pre 80 car can be warmed up 2-3
minutes.

9. Keep your air filter clean.

10. Anticipate the traffic ahead, try and coast as much as you can. Make it
a game trying not to hit the brakes as you drive to work.

11. Drive as if there was an egg between your foot and the throttle.

12. Use the cheapest gasoline you can find, but always buy from a busy gas
station.


"abhiutd" <UseLinkToEmail.RemoveThis@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "" wrote:
> > abhiutd wrote:
> > > Hello guys,
> > > I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see
> > the MPG
> > > and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE
> > 2.4 lit. I
> > > can't believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my
> > car??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Abhishek.
> > >
> > Have you given it a proper tune up? Spark plugs, air & fuel
> > filter etc.
> > If so, then it's probably the coolant temp sensor. Same thing
> > happened
> > on my wife's 98 Altima.
> >
> > CD
>
> Thank you CD ,SPAT and wilshak.
> Well i haven't got it tuned up yet. CD, I've observed that the temp
> needle comes right in the middle of C and H pretty soon. Is that what
> you mean when you refer to coolant temp sensor? Can you elaborate a
> little about it like whats the proba nd what should i tell the
> mechannic. Sorry i dont have much knowledge on mech things.
> SPAT, I'm really thinking of using premium gas cause i heard from few
> others about what you said . My car has 103K miles on it.
>
> Thank you again guys for your your help!
>
> Abhi.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:05 am
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Spat, I would like to know what you basis this statement of "fact" on.

"you will get better millage with premium gas and extend the life of
your engine, its a fact not a theory!"

Paul


"SPAT" <jm1234.DeleteThis@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:47:12 -0400, Codifus <codifus.DeleteThis@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>>abhiutd wrote:
>>> Hello guys,
>>> I recently bought a used 97 altima and i just happen to see the MPG
>>> and i was shocked to see only 22 MPG on highway. Its a GXE 2.4 lit. I
>>> can't believe that. Is that something wrong going on with my car??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Abhishek.
>>>
>>Have you given it a proper tune up? Spark plugs, air & fuel filter etc.
>>If so, then it's probably the coolant temp sensor. Same thing happened
>>on my wife's 98 Altima.
>>
>>CD
>
>
> Oh soo little info!
>
> seeing you just baught the car do a good thurough check on everything.
> oversized tires would lead you to this symptom. how many miles are on
> the engine? a worn engine will loose some efficiancy. also the millage
> reported by EPA is only an average of vehicles tested. driving habits
> will effect efficiancy as well. If you typicaly hold the throtle wide
> open till you reach desired speed regularly you will consumme more gas
> than average. If you drive thru a lot of hills you will consume more.
> lots of driving in cold conditions as well will increas consumption.
> everything needs to be in top condition, ignition system must be in
> excellent condition. dont fall for these gimicks of split fire,
> E-fire, or the wind tunnel. OEM parts are crucial components in the
> fuel and especialy the ignition system. also make sure the EVAP system
> is in good shape. A leaking EVAP system will allow some fuel to be
> lost due to evaperation especialy noticable in hot climates and the
> vehicle is rarly driven.
>
> you will get better millage with premium gas and extend the life of
> your engine, its a fact not a theory! many just argue the fact,
> because they dont like the higher cost. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!
>
>
>
> Spat
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:32 pm
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"Paul Widner" <paul_widner.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Rsw3f.18$ks3.4065@news.uswest.net...
> 8. If your car is a 1981 or newer, don't warm up your engine longer than
> 1 minute before you drive away slowly. A pre 80 car can be warmed up 2-3
> minutes.

Can anybody here explain why do I even need this 1 minute warmup ?
Never done this in my toyota and nissan and did not have a problem.
My camry is now 192000 miles and it still runs fine. Nissan is 134k.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:32 pm
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We'll I can't say for sure but I assume its so that the oil can warm up to a
proper state to protect the engine before the RPMs increase. That is just
my guess.

This is what my '97 Altima manual says about warm ups.

"4. Warm-up
Allow the engine to idle for at least 30 seconds after starting. Drive at
moderate speed for a short distance first, especially in cold weather."


Personally I don't really warm up my car at all, I bet it only runs for
about 10 secs before I start driving but I am gentle to it when it is
"cold".

Paul



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>> 8. If your car is a 1981 or newer, don't warm up your engine longer than
>> 1 minute before you drive away slowly. A pre 80 car can be warmed up 2-3
>> minutes.
>
> Can anybody here explain why do I even need this 1 minute warmup ?
> Never done this in my toyota and nissan and did not have a problem.
> My camry is now 192000 miles and it still runs fine. Nissan is 134k.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:23 pm
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"Paul Widner" <paul_widner.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:kdx3f.27$ks3.5278@news.uswest.net...
> We'll I can't say for sure but I assume its so that the oil can warm up to a
> proper state to protect the engine before the RPMs increase. That is just
> my guess.
>
> This is what my '97 Altima manual says about warm ups.
>
> "4. Warm-up
> Allow the engine to idle for at least 30 seconds after starting. Drive at
> moderate speed for a short distance first, especially in cold weather."
>
>
> Personally I don't really warm up my car at all, I bet it only runs for
> about 10 secs before I start driving but I am gentle to it when it is
> "cold".

Same here. Thanks.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:49 pm
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On 10/13/2005 1:32 PM US(ET), Pszemol took fingers to keyboard, and
typed the following:

> "Paul Widner" <paul_widner.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Rsw3f.18$ks3.4065@news.uswest.net...
>
>> 8. If your car is a 1981 or newer, don't warm up your engine longer than
>> 1 minute before you drive away slowly. A pre 80 car can be warmed up
>> 2-3 minutes.
>
>
> Can anybody here explain why do I even need this 1 minute warmup ?
> Never done this in my toyota and nissan and did not have a problem.
> My camry is now 192000 miles and it still runs fine. Nissan is 134k.

He said, "don't warm up your engine longer than 1 minute before you
drive away slowly". That means anything up to one minute, which would be
1 sec. to 59 secs..

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On 10/13/2005 1:56 PM US(ET), Paul Widner took fingers to keyboard, and
typed the following:

>We'll I can't say for sure but I assume its so that the oil can warm up to a
>proper state to protect the engine before the RPMs increase. That is just
>my guess.
>
>This is what my '97 Altima manual says about warm ups.
>
>"4. Warm-up
>Allow the engine to idle for at least 30 seconds after starting. Drive at
>moderate speed for a short distance first, especially in cold weather."
>
>
>Personally I don't really warm up my car at all, I bet it only runs for
>about 10 secs before I start driving but I am gentle to it when it is
>"cold".
>
>Paul
>
>

By the time I start the truck, put on the seatbelt, put it in gear,
release the hand brake, and roll 90' out of the driveway, the 30 seconds
has passed.

>
>
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>>
>>
>>>8. If your car is a 1981 or newer, don't warm up your engine longer than
>>>1 minute before you drive away slowly. A pre 80 car can be warmed up 2-3
>>>minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>Can anybody here explain why do I even need this 1 minute warmup ?
>>Never done this in my toyota and nissan and did not have a problem.
>>My camry is now 192000 miles and it still runs fine. Nissan is 134k.
>>


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