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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:55 pm
Post subject: MOT FOR MY 306 D TURBO HAS JUST COST ME £333
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Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
funny)
Work done included
2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable and
steering was off, this was the cause it was said
2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out, therefore
buggering the tyres up
Tracking sorted
2 new front brake pads
handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it was
just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering moments
seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
mate said it was.
Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and general
views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for 2(14
inch)
Wishbones my mate said are about £20
Brake pads about £15 for the pair
Tracking is just labour so no parts there
Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:55 pm
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In article <42efc8cc$0$12879$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
nospam RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com says...
> Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
> funny)
>
> Work done included
>
> 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable and
> steering was off, this was the cause it was said
> 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out, therefore
> buggering the tyres up
> Tracking sorted
> 2 new front brake pads
> handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it was
> just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
>
> Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering moments
> seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
> mate said it was.
>
> Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and general
> views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
>
> Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for 2(14
> inch)
>
> Wishbones my mate said are about £20
>
> Brake pads about £15 for the pair
>
> Tracking is just labour so no parts there
>
> Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
> leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
Not unreasonable for a main dealer I would if thought - especially if it
included the tyres. If it wasn't a main dealer perhaps a bit excessive.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:55 pm
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It wasnt main dealer. local garage that my mate knows, thought he might of
got it me a bit cheaper as he knows the garage guy quite well. how wrong i
was!
"Jim Mason" <jim.mason.RemoveThis@spamtrappedukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <42efc8cc$0$12879$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
nospam.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com says...
> Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
> funny)
>
> Work done included
>
> 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable
and
> steering was off, this was the cause it was said
> 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out,
therefore
> buggering the tyres up
> Tracking sorted
> 2 new front brake pads
> handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it
was
> just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
>
> Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering
moments
> seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
> mate said it was.
>
> Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and
general
> views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
>
> Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for
2(14
> inch)
>
> Wishbones my mate said are about £20
>
> Brake pads about £15 for the pair
>
> Tracking is just labour so no parts there
>
> Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
> leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
Not unreasonable for a main dealer I would if thought - especially if it
included the tyres. If it wasn't a main dealer perhaps a bit excessive.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:55 pm
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In article <42efcf14$0$12919$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
nospam RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com says...
> > > Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
> > > leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
> > Not unreasonable for a main dealer I would if thought - especially if it
> > included the tyres. If it wasn't a main dealer perhaps a bit excessive.
> It wasnt main dealer. local garage that my mate knows, thought he might of
> got it me a bit cheaper as he knows the garage guy quite well. how wrong i
> was
I still don't think it was too excessive from personal experience.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:55 pm
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"Damo" <nospam.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
> funny)
>
> Work done included
>
> 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable
> and
> steering was off, this was the cause it was said
> 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out,
> therefore
> buggering the tyres up
> Tracking sorted
> 2 new front brake pads
> handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it
> was
> just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
>
> Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering
> moments
> seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
> mate said it was.
>
> Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and
> general
> views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
>
> Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for
> 2(14
> inch)
>
> Wishbones my mate said are about £20
I think you'll find wisbones are much more than that. When I've got 205
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:55 pm
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In article <3la562F11sljdU1.RemoveThis@individual.net>, cagmeister.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk
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> "Damo" <nospam.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:42efc8cc$0$12879$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
> > Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
> > funny)
> >
> > Work done included
> >
> > 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable
> > and
> > steering was off, this was the cause it was said
> > 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out,
> > therefore
> > buggering the tyres up
> > Tracking sorted
> > 2 new front brake pads
> > handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it
> > was
> > just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
> >
> > Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering
> > moments
> > seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
> > mate said it was.
> >
> > Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and
> > general
> > views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
> >
> > Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for
> > 2(14
> > inch)
> >
> > Wishbones my mate said are about £20
>
> I think you'll find wisbones are much more than that. When I've got 205
> ones in the past they've been about £50 each.
Agreed. Eurocarparts quote £45 + vat so there is £106 right away + tyres
at £90 + brakepads £15.00 = £211. Leaving £122 for labour - not in the
slightest bit excessive I would have thought.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:34 am
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Why change the wishbones if only the bushes needed changing?
Doesn't seem expensive for the work claimed. More importantly did you
think the work needed doing and did you monitor the tyre wear etc
before handing the car over? When was it last serviced?
Damo wrote:
> Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
> funny)
>
> Work done included
>
> 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable and
> steering was off, this was the cause it was said
> 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out, therefore
> buggering the tyres up
> Tracking sorted
> 2 new front brake pads
> handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it was
> just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
>
> Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering moments
> seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My
> mate said it was.
>
> Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and general
> views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
>
> Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for 2(14
> inch)
>
> Wishbones my mate said are about £20
>
> Brake pads about £15 for the pair
>
> Tracking is just labour so no parts there
>
> Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
> leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
>
> Thanks >> Stay informed about: MOT FOR MY 306 D TURBO HAS JUST COST ME £333 |
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Hi, I dont know price of bits, but just looking at the jobs done on the car gives me the impression that you were not keeping an eye on the general things, like excessive tyre wear, poor roadholding. The overall cost seems that you got quite a lot done for your money. The cost of that repair is less than I pay sometimes for a full service + a few extra bits. Cars do require attention sometimes, and if you are going to wait until MOT time to sort them out, then that is the time you are going to have to pay.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:58 am
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Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333 (not
funny)
Work done included 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was unstable and steering was off, this was the cause it was said 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out, therefore buggering the tyres up
Tracking sorted
2 new front brake pads
handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel (think it was just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering moments seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is excessive. My mate said it was.
Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and general views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most for 2(14
inch)
Wishbones my mate said are about £20
Brake pads about £15 for the pair
Tracking is just labour so no parts there
Working it out i wouldnt say parts have cost no more than £150. so that
leaves nearly £200 in labour charges!
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Am I the only one who is worried that you only had a single pair of pads replaced? Both pairs should be replaced at the same time surely?
I'd have thought that was fairly reasonable for a car that is starting to age, especially given the amount of work done. Put it this way, I've been quoted a lot more for a lot less (check how much the conveniance fitters charge for brakes).
Streltsky
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:55 am
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Jim Mason wrote:
> In article <3la562F11sljdU1.RemoveThis@individual.net>, cagmeister.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
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>> "Damo" <nospam.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
>> news:42efc8cc$0$12879$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
>>> Just had M.O.T done on my p reg 306 d turbo. Its cost a HUGE £333
>>> (not funny)
>>>
>>> Work done included
>>>
>>> 2 new wishbones as the bushes were "worn to excess" the car was
>>> unstable and
>>> steering was off, this was the cause it was said
>>> 2 new tyres - because the wishbones had knocked the tracking out,
>>> therefore
>>> buggering the tyres up
>>> Tracking sorted
>>> 2 new front brake pads
>>> handbrake adjusted as it wasnt working on the back right wheel
>>> (think it was
>>> just cleaned off or freed up, no parts used in other words)
>>>
>>> Although the car handles like it should now and its "hairy steering
>>> moments
>>> seem to be gone" am i not the only one to think that £333 is
>>> excessive. My mate said it was.
>>>
>>> Would like to hear thoughts of what these parts cost seperately and
>>> general
>>> views about the price ive been charged and what is usually charged.
>>>
>>> Im thinking tyres (not brilliant brand) must have cost £90 at most
>>> for 2(14
>>> inch)
>>>
>>> Wishbones my mate said are about £20
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>> I think you'll find wisbones are much more than that. When I've got
>> 205 ones in the past they've been about £50 each.
>
> Agreed. Eurocarparts quote £45 + vat so there is £106 right away +
> tyres at £90 + brakepads £15.00 = £211. Leaving £122 for labour - not
> in the slightest bit excessive I would have thought.
Agreed. They're gonna be charging somewhere around £40 an hour, so three
hours for that lot sounds fine to me.
A bill for £333 is nothing in car-land. Remember, your P-plate car will be
ten years old soon ! Things do wear out, and things will need replacing -
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:29 am
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daddyfreddy.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> Why change the wishbones if only the bushes needed changing?
>
> Doesn't seem expensive for the work claimed. More importantly did you
> think the work needed doing and did you monitor the tyre wear etc
> before handing the car over? When was it last serviced?
>
>
I had a wishbone changed on the wife's 106 for the MOT. I suspect it's
quicker for the garage to change the whole wishbone rather than just
the bushes. If you think about it the wishbone is never going to wear
out so I suspect they come with bushed and then it's just a straight
swap. IIRC they charged about 2 hours labour which didn't seem
excessive to me.
On the whole I reckon £333 is about right for the work the OP had
done. 2-3 hours for the wishbones, 1 hour taking the car to the tyre
depot, 1 hour for the brakes at a minimum of £30 per hour gives £150.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:25 pm
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That reminds me, watch out with replacement wishbones. I had 2 sent back
and replaced because the bushes failed. In the end I gave up and brought
some Superflex bushes (£40 for a set) and just replaced them. Eveverything
was fine after that, so you may want to look into getting that done if its
just the bushes that have play in them. And it will work out cheaper.
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daddyfreddy.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Why change the wishbones if only the bushes needed changing?
>
> Doesn't seem expensive for the work claimed. More importantly did you
> think the work needed doing and did you monitor the tyre wear etc
> before handing the car over? When was it last serviced?
>
>
I had a wishbone changed on the wife's 106 for the MOT. I suspect it's
quicker for the garage to change the whole wishbone rather than just
the bushes. If you think about it the wishbone is never going to wear
out so I suspect they come with bushed and then it's just a straight
swap. IIRC they charged about 2 hours labour which didn't seem
excessive to me.
On the whole I reckon £333 is about right for the work the OP had
done. 2-3 hours for the wishbones, 1 hour taking the car to the tyre
depot, 1 hour for the brakes at a minimum of £30 per hour gives £150.
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Tonyh wrote:
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> Hi, I dont know price of bits, but just looking at the jobs done on
> the car gives me the impression that you were not keeping an eye on
> the general things, like excessive tyre wear, poor roadholding. The
> overall cost seems that you got quite a lot done for your money. The
> cost of that repair is less than I pay sometimes for a full service +
> a few extra bits. Cars do require attention sometimes, and if you are
> going to wait until MOT time to sort them out, then that is the time
> you are going to have to pay.
AOL Tony. Personally if my car had hairy handling moments then it would
be in the garage quicker than a very quick thing on speed. It's more
than a trifle worrying that the OP was driving around in a car that
could easily kill others and doesn't seem bothered about it.
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Streltsky wrote:
> Am I the only one who is worried that you only had a single pair of
> pads replaced?
But he both fron pairs replaced.
> Both pairs should be replaced at the same time surely?
They were !
By "2 new front brake pads" he means front left and front right. The fact
that there are two pads per side, is neither here nor there. Nobody is going
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Streltsky wrote:
> Am I the only one who is worried that you only had a single pair of
> pads replaced?
But he both fron pairs replaced.
> Both pairs should be replaced at the same time surely?
They were !
By "2 new front brake pads" he means front left and front right. The fact
that there are two pads per side, is neither here nor there. Nobody is going
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Sorry but WHEN did he say he had replaced both pairs? I think it was NEVER. I would be less suprised if there were garages out there changing single pairs than if there wasn't!
I apologise for being concerned!
Also do you ever say anything constructive Nom? because I've looked over your old posts and can find only a small number of positive posts, you mainly just moan at people without justifying your complaints, especially when they use a bit of initiative!
Oh and don't bother replying to this because I'm not going to bother checking the forum again, I'll just stick to asking mechanics like I used to as they'll actually give constructive advice.
Cheers to GT for giving decent responses.
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