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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:32 pm
Post subject: MB C230 vs BMW 320i
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Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
Some questions :
1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
better car?
2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
US, or imported from Germany?
3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
out more than the other?
4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
Infiniti or Acura)?
7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:19 am
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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aniramca RemoveThis @yahoo.com (aniram) wrote in message news:<f8269733.0403242132.370e828c RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
> Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
> BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
> Some questions :
> 1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
> better car?
If you like the BMW, the BMW. Vice-versa for the Mercedes.
> 2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
> US, or imported from Germany?
Canada gets cars specially imported from Germany. All other BMWs and
Mercs are built in the USA, of course.
> 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
> out more than the other?
You mean depreciated? Probably the BMW.
> 4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
Dunno - ask JD Power. Bear in mind the owners of BMWs, Mercs and
other premium-priced cars tend to expect more, and are pickier, then
buyers of cars who either aren't enthusiasts or who just want cars to
get them from A to B and couldn't care less about poor engine response
over 5,000 rpm, or squeaks and rattles.
> 5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
Yes, you can compare them  .
> 6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
> Infiniti or Acura)?
It's funny. Only one of those three brands is actually available in
the domestic market. I doubt BMW or Mercedes took them particularly
seriously.
> 7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
> (Honda,Toyota)?
Regular Japanese cars, also built in the US, tend to be more reliable
but less fun to drive.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:38 pm
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"aniram" <aniramca.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
> BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
> Some questions :
> 1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
> better car?
> 2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
> US, or imported from Germany?
> 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
> out more than the other?
> 4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
> 5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
> 6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
> Infiniti or Acura)?
> 7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
> (Honda,Toyota)?
Why dont you just drive each car and toss a coin. If you dont like it,
change over to the other brand in 8 years.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: MB C230 vs BMW 320i |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:55 pm
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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andrewj_nospamthomas RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au (Andrew Thomas) wrote:
>aniramca@yahoo.com (aniram) wrote in message news:<f8269733.0403242132.370e828c RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
>> Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
>> BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
>
>> 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
>> out more than the other?
>
>You mean depreciated? Probably the BMW.
In the US, the C230 depreciates a little bit faster than the 325i (we
don't have the 320i).
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:40 pm
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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What do you you mean by "domestic" market? Canada or Germany?
Aniram, yes, toss a coin, do a test drive. The cars may be very broadly
similar in size (Merc a tad bigger), but are the engines comparable?
A souped up 1.8-l 4-cyl vs 2.2 standard 6-cyl?
Important question: would you like a special view down the bonnet with that
sight at the end to point the way, or just the standard view you see out of
just about any other car?
DAS
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> aniramca.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (aniram) wrote in message
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> > Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
> > BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
> > Some questions :
> > 1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
> > better car?
>
> If you like the BMW, the BMW. Vice-versa for the Mercedes.
>
> > 2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
> > US, or imported from Germany?
>
> Canada gets cars specially imported from Germany. All other BMWs and
> Mercs are built in the USA, of course.
>
> > 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
> > out more than the other?
>
> You mean depreciated? Probably the BMW.
>
> > 4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
>
> Dunno - ask JD Power. Bear in mind the owners of BMWs, Mercs and
> other premium-priced cars tend to expect more, and are pickier, then
> buyers of cars who either aren't enthusiasts or who just want cars to
> get them from A to B and couldn't care less about poor engine response
> over 5,000 rpm, or squeaks and rattles.
>
> > 5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
>
> Yes, you can compare them .
>
> > 6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
> > Infiniti or Acura)?
>
> It's funny. Only one of those three brands is actually available in
> the domestic market. I doubt BMW or Mercedes took them particularly
> seriously.
>
> > 7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
> > (Honda,Toyota)?
>
> Regular Japanese cars, also built in the US, tend to be more reliable
> but less fun to drive.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: MB C230 vs BMW 320i |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:56 pm
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 24 Mar 2004 21:32:05 -0800, aniramca.DeleteThis@yahoo.com (aniram) wrote:
>Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
>BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
>Some questions :
>1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
>better car?
>2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
>US, or imported from Germany?
>3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
>out more than the other?
>4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
>5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
>6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
>Infiniti or Acura)?
>7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
>(Honda,Toyota)?
Sheesh, what, you want us to write a book?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: MB C230 vs BMW 320i |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:58 am
Post subject: Re: MB C230 vs BMW 320i [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Neither.
Go with the Mercedes C320 coupe - bigger motor, more HP, way better torque
and a shit load more fun to drive.
I tested both befroe buying my C320 Coupe. Slso test drove the BMW325 and
330 versions. Liked the C320 better...
Cheers
KB
"aniram" <aniramca DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
> BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
> Some questions :
> 1. Dollar for dollar, performance as well as quality, which car is a
> better car?
> 2. In Canada, where the above two cars manufactured ? local, from the
> US, or imported from Germany?
> 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
> out more than the other?
> 4. Which one holds a better customer satisfaction?
> 5. How about a comparison with an Audi A4?
> 6. How's these two cars compared with Japanese top of the line (Lexus,
> Infiniti or Acura)?
> 7. How's these two cars compared with regular Japanese cars
> (Honda,Toyota)?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: MB C230 vs BMW 320i |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:27 am
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"Marcio Watanabe" <Marcio.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> andrewj_nospamthomas.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au (Andrew Thomas) wrote:
>
> >aniramca@yahoo.com (aniram) wrote in message
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> >> Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor 1.8l in line 4 189 HP
> >> BMW 320i 2.2 l DOHC inline 6 168 HP
> >
> >> 3. When you buy them used (2-3 years old), which one is likely fallen
> >> out more than the other?
> >
> >You mean depreciated? Probably the BMW.
>
> In the US, the C230 depreciates a little bit faster than the 325i (we
> don't have the 320i).
>
> --
> Marcio Watanabe
What a surprise... usually Canada and the US have the same lineup but indeed
you don't have the 320i in the US <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3" target="_blank">http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3</a> while we
do have it in Canada
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bmw.ca/automobiles/model_fs.asp?modelname=320i&modelid=1&seriesid=3" target="_blank">http://www.bmw.ca/automobiles/model_fs.asp?modelname=320i&modelid=1&seriesid=3</a>
which would probably make that car rather difficult to take with you if you
were moving to the US.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:31 pm
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"KB" <kbeddard DeleteThis @nospam.home.com> wrote in message
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> Neither.
>
> Go with the Mercedes C320 coupe - bigger motor, more HP, way better torque
> and a shit load more fun to drive.
>
Sure, if you like driving cars with automatic transmissions... Blah.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:59 pm
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Fred - get your facts straight dude - the C320 sport coupe can have either
the 6 sp gearbox or the automatic. Mine happens to have the 6 speed gearbox
and as I said is a shit load of fun to drive... more HP, torque and 6 gears
Cheers
KB
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> > Neither.
> >
> > Go with the Mercedes C320 coupe - bigger motor, more HP, way better
torque
> > and a shit load more fun to drive.
> >
> Sure, if you like driving cars with automatic transmissions... Blah.
>
> -Fred W
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:59 pm
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"KB" <kbeddard.DeleteThis@nospam.home.com> wrote in message
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> Fred - get your facts straight dude - the C320 sport coupe can have either
> the 6 sp gearbox or the automatic. Mine happens to have the 6 speed
gearbox
> and as I said is a shit load of fun to drive... more HP, torque and 6
gears
>
>
> Cheers
> KB
>
Cool. I was unaware any MBs were available with any thing but an auto.
This is indeed good news. What other models can be had with a standard
trans?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:44 pm
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A number of the C and SLK's can be had with the 6 sp. There's probably
more...
"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "KB" <kbeddard DeleteThis @nospam.home.com> wrote in message
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> > Fred - get your facts straight dude - the C320 sport coupe can have
either
> > the 6 sp gearbox or the automatic. Mine happens to have the 6 speed
> gearbox
> > and as I said is a shit load of fun to drive... more HP, torque and 6
> gears
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > KB
> >
>
> Cool. I was unaware any MBs were available with any thing but an auto.
> This is indeed good news. What other models can be had with a standard
> trans?
>
> -Fred
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