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Since: Sep 03, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:29 pm
Post subject: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking
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Hi all
I have a 1898 Volvo 240 wagon with 183,000 miles. It developed an oil
leak that has now clocked in at one quart per thousand miles. My
mechanic says it's the rear main.
Can anybody with experience in these things guess at what will happen
if I just let it be instead of fixing it. The car has quite a few
little problems that make me think it's time to run it till it dies.
I'm just trying to get some clue as to how fast these things progress.
Would it be silly to think I could get another 50,000 miles out of it?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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danny2000.DeleteThis@optonline.net wrote:
> Hi all
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> I have a 1898 Volvo 240 wagon with 183,000 miles. It developed an oil
> leak that has now clocked in at one quart per thousand miles. My
> mechanic says it's the rear main.
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> Can anybody with experience in these things guess at what will happen
> if I just let it be instead of fixing it. The car has quite a few
> little problems that make me think it's time to run it till it dies.
> I'm just trying to get some clue as to how fast these things progress.
>
> Would it be silly to think I could get another 50,000 miles out of it?
>
> Thanks
>
Anything is possible, but it isn't likely. Have you serviced
the flame trap? Have you tried owning a car built after 1900?  |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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danny2000.TakeThisOut@optonline.net wrote:
> I'm just trying to get some clue as to how fast these things progress.
When a main engine seal finally goes, it's usually sudden. This isn't
particular to Volvos.
> Would it be silly to think I could get another 50,000 miles out of it?
The question you really should be asking, is whether there is too much
pressure for some reason... rear seal being just a symptom, not strictly
"the" problem... >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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What reasons might there be causing excess pressure? Flame trap and
what else?
Danny
jmcgill wrote:
> danny2000 DeleteThis @optonline.net wrote:
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> > I'm just trying to get some clue as to how fast these things progress.
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> When a main engine seal finally goes, it's usually sudden. This isn't
> particular to Volvos.
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> > Would it be silly to think I could get another 50,000 miles out of it?
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> The question you really should be asking, is whether there is too much
> pressure for some reason... rear seal being just a symptom, not strictly
> "the" problem... >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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danny2000.DeleteThis@optonline.net wrote:
> Hi all
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> I have a 1898 Volvo 240 wagon with 183,000 miles. It developed an oil
> leak that has now clocked in at one quart per thousand miles. My
> mechanic says it's the rear main.
>
> Can anybody with experience in these things guess at what will happen
> if I just let it be instead of fixing it. The car has quite a few
> little problems that make me think it's time to run it till it dies.
> I'm just trying to get some clue as to how fast these things progress.
>
> Would it be silly to think I could get another 50,000 miles out of it?
>
> Thanks
>
It's not environmentally responsible to be driving around losing that
much oil, you may as well just start pouring quarts of oil in the street.
Check the flame trap first, if that's clean then have the rear main seal
replaced. The car could easily run another 200,000 miles like that until
it "dies", old Volvos rarely die, they just get ratty and ugly when
neglected. >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'll check the flame trap first thing in the morning but I will not be
spending $1000 to have the seal replaced. We all 'pour oil' in the
street every time we turn on our ignition. Since you like telling
people what to do why don't you walk to work?
Danny
James Sweet wrote:
> It's not environmentally responsible to be driving around losing that
> much oil, you may as well just start pouring quarts of oil in the street.
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> Check the flame trap first, if that's clean then have the rear main seal
> replaced. The car could easily run another 200,000 miles like that until
> it "dies", old Volvos rarely die, they just get ratty and ugly when
> neglected. >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:00 am
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:18 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:55 am
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danny2000.DeleteThis@optonline.net wrote:
> I'll check the flame trap first thing in the morning but I will not be
> spending $1000 to have the seal replaced. We all 'pour oil' in the
> street every time we turn on our ignition. Since you like telling
> people what to do why don't you walk to work?
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> Danny
A rear seal replacement should cost less than half what you
quote. James and I don't always seem eye to eye, but he's
dead tight on this, and your response is just defensive nonsense.
Get the seal fixed. If you don't want to spend more than $10, try
a can of stop-leak, and actually follow the directions on the can.
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> James Sweet wrote:
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>>It's not environmentally responsible to be driving around losing that
>>much oil, you may as well just start pouring quarts of oil in the street.
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>>Check the flame trap first, if that's clean then have the rear main seal
>>replaced. The car could easily run another 200,000 miles like that until
>>it "dies", old Volvos rarely die, they just get ratty and ugly when
>>neglected.
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> >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:55 am
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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danny2000 DeleteThis @optonline.net wrote:
> I'll check the flame trap first thing in the morning but I will not be
> spending $1000 to have the seal replaced. We all 'pour oil' in the
> street every time we turn on our ignition. Since you like telling
> people what to do why don't you walk to work?
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Look if you're gonna be a jerk about helpful advice people give then
don't come here looking for free help.
And I do ride my bicycle 15 miles to work on a fairly regular basis, is
that good enough?
I also put new seals in both my cars so they don't leak. >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:49 am
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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jmcgill wrote:
> zencraps.RemoveThis@comcast.net wrote:
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> > Do the work yourself, it ain't hard.
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> Rear seal means it's a tranny-out job. That's hard by anyone's standards!
No, it is not really "hard," just time consuming.
As with all automotive repair endeavors, all it takes is tools, a place
to work, time, and a bit of knowledge.
I've done many transmission R & R's in my garage at my home, and I am a
self-taught, shade tree mechanic.
Frankly, doing jobs like that is a character builder. >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It's not impossible but it is
> about as "hard" as any mechanical work you can do on a 240 which really
> is a joy to work on overall.
Yes, it is physically demanding, and without a good tranny jack
requires a helper or tw to remove and reinstallthe tranny.
Messy, time consuming labor.
Not pleasant work, but good lord, you can save a wheelbarrow full of
money by DIY. >> Stay informed about: Longevity Guesses? -1989 240- rear main seal leaking |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:03 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:27 pm
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