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Since: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:46 pm
Post subject: Living with a Passat
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After 6 years with my 1986 Jetta GL, I'm starting to look at a
replacement in the new year. I'm doing well at work, and am
looking to upgrade to a Passat.
I can't justify a new one (I ride the bus to work most days),
but can easily justify a used one, say early '00s.
I've read the reliability reports about sludged engines and
waterpump meltdowns, and know that such a car is going
to be more expensive to look after than my Jetta. So be it.
If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't do it.
What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
the driving experience?
What's it like to actually live with one?
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte >> Stay informed about: Living with a Passat |
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Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 187
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Living with a Passat [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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laura halliday wrote:
> What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
> is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
> the driving experience?
Laura:
Allow me to be brutally honest with you and also relate a fairly recent
experience we had. Up until 2004, we always had at least one VW in the
family. Over the years, included were Type IIIs, Rabbits, Golfs, Dasher
wagons and so forth. The last one before the present crop was a New
Beetle Diesel. Which had: Numerous electrical problems. Windows that
shattered going up and going down (three sets, ultimately), a fuel
distribution system that failed twice... all covered under and
well-past the original warranty period (shattering windows). When we
became grandparents and my wife decided she wanted to shift back to a
wagon, we went to a local VERY LARGE used car dealer and looked after
Passat wagons. We drove out in a Saab 9.5 wagon. I was driving a ML320
at the time, and a few months later, I went to the same place looking
for a 4-Motion wagon... and drove out in a Volvo XC70. Both options
were available to me, both in similar year/mileage/warranty. However,
both of the 'other' options wanted premium fuel, cost more, and had
fewer features... really.
So, allow the heresy of a non VW option.
We presently own two VWs, and I expect that we will own at least one
forever. But one is a 1987 Westie camper, and one is a 1999 Winnebago
camper. These are unique vehicles for which there are no legitimate
substitutes, and so we put up with the continued and unreasonable
quirkiness and sometimes remarkably poor quality-control that VW
somehow cannot seem to overcome in order to have the advantages of the
overall vehicle. And I remain a shade-tree mechanic in simple
self-defense as paying an outside mechanic to deal with the quirks and
foibles of a VW is simply unreasonable for something that is
purportedly an "economy" car. If you want Euro-precision, comfort and
quiet elegance, look for the second-tier Euros. Saab, Volvo. Saab
especially. We had a 1991 Saab 9000 that we drove for 9 years and
180,000 miles changing only the oil and doing only the regular
maintenance. I had a 1994 Volvo 850 that I drove for 120,000 miles
similarly. VW has a lot of catching up to do.
You may wind up with a VW, but be sure you are doing it because you
really, really, really want to.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA >> Stay informed about: Living with a Passat |
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Since: Jul 02, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Living with a Passat [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 6 Dec 2006 13:46:03 -0800, "laura halliday"
wrote:
>I've read the reliability reports about sludged engines and
>waterpump meltdowns, and know that such a car is going
>to be more expensive to look after than my Jetta. So be it.
>If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't do it.
>
>What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
>is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
>the driving experience?
>
I have a 00' wagon V6 2WD which I bought new. Switched to syn oil at
20K, new coolent at 40K now have 58K with one minor problem (side
mirror switch replaced). Just a single data point. Jack >> Stay informed about: Living with a Passat |
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Since: Feb 04, 2005 Posts: 62
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:56 pm
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As stated earlier....
I have a 2004 GLS 1.8T 5 speed. It's a great car. 33,000 miles. Only
problem is that the rear rotors warped with about 23,000 and I had to argue
with the dealer to win the replacement. The brakes had not yet worn down and
there was no reasonable reason for it. Otherwise a great car. Depending on
your climate, the cold weather kit with heated seats and mirrors is a nice
option. I also have leather and wood in mine with the 5 disc changer. I
routinely get 33-34 MPG highway and 24-28 around town. Regardless of what
the manual says about premium fuel, it runs fine on regular. Make sure you
use synthetic oil as it may cause problems with you and VW otherwise. Good
Luck. David
"laura halliday" wrote in message
> After 6 years with my 1986 Jetta GL, I'm starting to look at a
> replacement in the new year. I'm doing well at work, and am
> looking to upgrade to a Passat.
>
> I can't justify a new one (I ride the bus to work most days),
> but can easily justify a used one, say early '00s.
>
> I've read the reliability reports about sludged engines and
> waterpump meltdowns, and know that such a car is going
> to be more expensive to look after than my Jetta. So be it.
> If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't do it.
>
> What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
> is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
> the driving experience?
>
> What's it like to actually live with one?
>
> Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
> Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..."
> ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
> >> Stay informed about: Living with a Passat |
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Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:56 am
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, laura halliday wrote:
> What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
> is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
> the driving experience?
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> What's it like to actually live with one?
Laura,
I owned a 1995 Passat VR6 that I sold a few years ago with 135,000 miles
on the clock. There was not a single squeak or rattle in that car; it was
still on the original exhaust system. The new owner also recently sold it
with 240,000 miles on the clock. Still no squeaks, still no rattles, still
original exhaust. The most reliable car that I have ever owned. Oh, I did
have to replace a tail light once.
Steve >> Stay informed about: Living with a Passat |
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Since: Jul 08, 2003 Posts: 127
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:16 pm
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laura halliday wrote:
> After 6 years with my 1986 Jetta GL, I'm starting to look at a
> replacement in the new year. I'm doing well at work, and am
> looking to upgrade to a Passat.
>
> I can't justify a new one (I ride the bus to work most days),
> but can easily justify a used one, say early '00s.
I have an '03 GLX Tip sedan, manufactured and purchased in late '02.
> I've read the reliability reports about sludged engines
The V6 is much less prone to this than the 1.8T AIUI, but I do change
the oil with synth every 5K miles anyway.
> and
> waterpump meltdowns
Only 20K miles on it so I can't speak to that.
> and know that such a car is going
> to be more expensive to look after than my Jetta. So be it.
> If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't do it.
>
> What I'm curious about, when all is said and done, is what
> is it like to own and drive a Passat? How do you feel about
> the driving experience?
>
> What's it like to actually live with one?
Not many problems with it so far. O2 sensor failed around 8K miles,
replaced under warranty. Belly pan tore off due to a muffler lying in
the road on a dark night, can't fault VW for that. Rear brake discs
disintegrated at 16K miles, out of warranty (>3 years) and dealer
wouldn't replace. *That* pissed me off. Coupla recalls (fuel filler
neck, driver's seat heater).
Driving experience - in highway driving, I couldn't imagine wanting more
out of a car. Well-snubbed without being floaty, quiet, plenty of
power, easy to gobble up miles in. Around town... it feels a bit
sluggish and soft. Better than most cars I've owned, mind you, but I'd
prefer a smoother/quicker throttle/tranny response at low speeds. Also
the OEM Michelin tires aren't so hot.
Excellent build quality, very nice interior, IMO a good-looking car
(better looking than the previous or subsequent generations). Good
stereo (Monsoon), haven't had any of the problems with it that some have
complained of. Everyone I've ever driven in it has commented about what
a nice car it was.
Overall it's been a good car, and I can't really complain. But I think
I hear a GTI calling me...
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Since: Sep 29, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:19 pm
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