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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:44 am
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BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
....... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot 1.9
diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines around
(in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep hearing of
all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it because it was once
a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a new engine they just
bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the distance between the cyls ..?
I am looking for an absolutely basic 5 to 7 year old diesel car in the
2 litre range .... definitely not turbo, definitely got to be a boring
and as simple as possible A to B'er.... Citroen Xara 1.9D perhaps ...?
.... So ? ... any ideas on your best-last-forever boring 2 litreISH
diesel engine ... (gasket problems are the absolute pits, mostly
insoluble once started on the peugeot - cyl deformation as well as the
head) so perhaps not the peugeot .......? .... (you always get the same
excuse ...."well that's strange for a Peugeot 1.9 .... all I can think
is he's been thrashing it .... it you do that you wreck any engine !")
---------o0o-------------
PS .... been looking on the Automart site and I can't get it to work
for me ..? Unlike autotrader site (useless .... dealer cars and I
want private .... the sort that USED to advertise in the local papers)
it has a range facility. You put your post code in that field ...
tho' it only takes the first bit (i.e. BB12 ...I am prepared to go up
to 20 mile) .... so that facility is OK (if it works ?). But the two
drop down boxes to the left (make and model) don't drop down .... and
the page keeps coming back telling me to fill the fields in .... well I
can't if it won't let me !! Maybe it is because I am still on WIN 98
.... and the page is too big .... still it does Ryanair and that's big !
Any ideas please ..?
cheers ......alec

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On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
"alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo.DeleteThis@madasafish.com> wrote:

> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot 1.9
> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines around
> (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep hearing of
> all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it because it was
> once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a new engine they
> just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the distance between the
> cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic 5 to 7 year old diesel
> car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not turbo, definitely got to
> be a boring and as simple as possible A to B'er.... Citroen Xara 1.9D
> perhaps ...? ... So ? ... any ideas on your best-last-forever boring
> 2 litreISH diesel engine ... (gasket problems are the absolute pits,
> mostly insoluble once started on the peugeot - cyl deformation as
> well as the head) so perhaps not the peugeot .......? .... (you
> always get the same excuse ...."well that's strange for a Peugeot
> 1.9 .... all I can think is he's been thrashing it .... it you do
> that you wreck any engine !") ---------o0o-------------
> PS .... been looking on the Automart site and I can't get it to work
> for me ..? Unlike autotrader site (useless .... dealer cars and I
> want private .... the sort that USED to advertise in the local papers)
> it has a range facility. You put your post code in that field ...
> tho' it only takes the first bit (i.e. BB12 ...I am prepared to go up
> to 20 mile) .... so that facility is OK (if it works ?). But the
> two drop down boxes to the left (make and model) don't drop down ....
> and the page keeps coming back telling me to fill the fields in ....
> well I can't if it won't let me !! Maybe it is because I am still on
> WIN 98 ... and the page is too big .... still it does Ryanair and
> that's big ! Any ideas please ..?
> cheers ......alec
>



I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over 256000miles on
the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and all
filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel like
many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
turbo.
from chris Addlestone Surrey.

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> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo.RemoveThis@madasafish.com> wrote:
>
>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot 1.9
>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines around
>> (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep hearing of
>> all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it because it was
>> once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a new engine they
>> just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the distance between the
>> cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic 5 to 7 year old diesel
>> car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not turbo, definitely got to
<<snip>>
>>
>
>
>
> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over 256000miles on
> the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and all
> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel like
> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
> turbo.


Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine (properly
called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of 100,000 miles and
currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has 112,000 on the
clock. Neither of the engines have given any problems at all. No idea
what you are talking about regarding head gaskets.

Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non turbo and
the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been around since 1999 which
is the year of my 406.
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Cit ZX 1.9D estate

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> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700, "alecalgo@madasafish.com"
> <alecalgo DeleteThis @madasafish.com> wrote:
>
>>BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot 1.9
>>diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines around
>>(in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep hearing of
>>all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it because it was once
>>a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a new engine they just
>>bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the distance between the cyls ..?
>>I am looking for an absolutely basic 5 to 7 year old diesel car in the
>>2 litre range .... definitely not turbo, definitely got to be a boring
>>and as simple as possible A to B'er.... Citroen Xara 1.9D perhaps ...?
>>... So ? ... any ideas on your best-last-forever boring 2 litreISH
>>diesel engine ... (gasket problems are the absolute pits, mostly
>>insoluble once started on the peugeot - cyl deformation as well as the
>>head) so perhaps not the peugeot .......? .... (you always get the same
>>excuse ...."well that's strange for a Peugeot 1.9 .... all I can think
>>is he's been thrashing it .... it you do that you wreck any engine !")
>>---------o0o-------------
>
>
> the XU9D is NOT a bored up version of the XU7D
>
> and yes it is perhaps the most indistructable diesel engine around...
>
> see what drives around in africa.....
>
> AND
>
> it is fitted in so many cars thet you would have a hard time finding
> one that is not fitted with one ( wel try a merc perhaps)
>
> ONLY
>
> have a regular cambelt / waterpump change ( easy DIY job)
> just do it about every 60.000 km and DO NOT rev any engine above its
> limits....
>
> if you want a boring car, go for the talbot horizon.... or any german
> car
> a xara1.9 has the XU9D in it.... as a 405, 406 ( with Turbo) 306
> 205, ( XU7D and XU5D) all citroen diesels, some fords, a few Yap cars,
> and many many more
> spares for your XUD? weel if you need them, there at any breaker yard,
> exept for waterpumps ( new costs around 30 quid)
>
>
> also impossible to kill, toyota diesel pickups..... ( topgear test Smile
>
> mercedes OM series diesel
>

Give me the 405 XUD any day,
I have had 2 405s in 12 years and no major faults,
My wife has a 1994 Rover 218, with (I assume) a Peugeot 1.8 diesel,
car runs like clockwork,
Fitzy
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Give me the 405 XUD any day,
I have had 2 405s in 12 years and no major faults,
My wife has a 1994 Rover 218, with (I assume) a Peugeot 1.8 diesel,
car runs like clockwork,
Fitzy



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>
> Cit ZX 1.9D estate
>
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Fitzy wrote:
> Give me the 405 XUD any day,

I loved both of mine, no significant problems in a quarter of a million
miles.

> I have had 2 405s in 12 years and no major faults,
> My wife has a 1994 Rover 218, with (I assume) a Peugeot 1.8 diesel,
> car runs like clockwork,

You mean she has to get out and wind it up every so often? Smile

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> Fitzy wrote:
>> Give me the 405 XUD any day,
>
> I loved both of mine, no significant problems in a quarter of a million
> miles.
>
>> I have had 2 405s in 12 years and no major faults,
>> My wife has a 1994 Rover 218, with (I assume) a Peugeot 1.8 diesel,
>> car runs like clockwork,
>
> You mean she has to get out and wind it up every so often? Smile
>
> Matt

Wink nice one Matt,
as long as she don't wind ME up Wink
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Hi Marc,

> the XU9D is NOT a bored up version of the XU7D
> and yes it is perhaps the most indistructable diesel engine around...
I have to agree, it's rather the XUD7 which is a under-bored version of the
XUD9.
And they are the most reliable Diesels ever made in their class, for sure,
and damn pleasant to drive.

Regards,
G.T
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> "Chris" <chris.RemoveThis@thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
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>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo.RemoveThis@madasafish.com> wrote:
>>
>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
1.9
>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a
>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic
5
>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not
>>> turbo, definitely got to
> <<snip>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
256000miles
>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
all
>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
like
>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
>> turbo.
>
>
> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of 100,000
> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
problems
> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head gaskets.
>
> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been around
> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.

plus you can run on bio-diesel (as stated by email from Peugeot
themselves)with no probs.
requires some mineral diesel in cold weather(anti-waxing)but otherwise
nothing else (even HDi engines )
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>> "Chris" <chris DeleteThis @thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
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>>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo DeleteThis @madasafish.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
> 1.9
>>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a
>>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic
> 5
>>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not
>>>> turbo, definitely got to
>> <<snip>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
> 256000miles
>>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
> all
>>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
> like
>>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
>>> turbo.
>>
>>
>> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
>> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of 100,000
>> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
>> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
> problems
>> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head gaskets.
>>
>> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
>> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been around
>> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.
>
> plus you can run on bio-diesel (as stated by email from Peugeot
> themselves)with no probs.
> requires some mineral diesel in cold weather(anti-waxing)but otherwise
> nothing else (even HDi engines )

Are you certain of that with regard to HDI engines. Some time ago there
was discussion about that on this group accompanied by dire warnings abut
using bio in HDI engines, in fact probably all common rail diesels.
Apparently, amongst other things, it screws the anti pollution system. See
this link
http://forum.rac.co.uk/showthread.php?t=799
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>>> "Chris" <chris.TakeThisOut@thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
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>>>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>>>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo.TakeThisOut@madasafish.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
>> 1.9
>>>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a
>>>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic
>> 5
>>>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not
>>>>> turbo, definitely got to
>>> <<snip>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
>> 256000miles
>>>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
>> all
>>>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
>> like
>>>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
>>>> turbo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
>>> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of 100,000
>>> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
>>> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
>> problems
>>> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head gaskets.
>>>
>>> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
>>> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been around
>>> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.
>>
>> plus you can run on bio-diesel (as stated by email from Peugeot
>> themselves)with no probs.
>> requires some mineral diesel in cold weather(anti-waxing)but otherwise
>> nothing else (even HDi engines )
>
> Are you certain of that with regard to HDI engines. Some time ago there
> was discussion about that on this group accompanied by dire warnings abut
> using bio in HDI engines, in fact probably all common rail diesels.
> Apparently, amongst other things, it screws the anti pollution system.
> See this link
> http://forum.rac.co.uk/showthread.php?t=799

Also this from the AA
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/news/biofuels.html
Perhaps you would publish the Peugeot email because it appears to contradict
what has been heard so far.
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>> "Chris" <chris DeleteThis @thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
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>>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo DeleteThis @madasafish.com> wrote:
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>>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
> 1.9
>>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing a
>>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely basic
> 5
>>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely not
>>>> turbo, definitely got to
>> <<snip>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
> 256000miles
>>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
> all
>>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
> like
>>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or without
>>> turbo.
>>
>>
>> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
>> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of 100,000
>> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
>> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
> problems
>> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head gaskets.
>>
>> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
>> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been around
>> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.

OK here's my 2p.
I've had two normaly aspirated 1.9 engines, the first in a 305 the second in
a 405.
I've also had the turbo version in a 406. The turbo didn't do anything much
for the perfomace, it just gobbled more fuel.
(It was the least ecconomical of all the pugs I've owned and didn't run ANY
better or quicker than either of the two non-turbo cars)
I now have a HDi 406 with the 2.0 engine which is quicker & more ecconomical
than the turbo 406 I traded in on it.
I've done well over a quarter million miles in these motors and so far have
never needed a head gasket replaced.
I've never, up to now, heard of these lumps having head gasket problems,
appart from the obvious overheating of diesel engines generaly, which almost
always causes head warp probs and isn't in any way confined to Pugs.
I do wish Pug would make it's mind up as to what level of bio fuel the HDi
motor can stand, there's a bio garage just down the road from me. Sad

Djimbo.






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Hi,

> I do wish Pug would make it's mind up as to what level of bio fuel the HDi
> motor can stand, there's a bio garage just down the road from me. Sad
Eeeer they once said HDi's were designed to cope with up to 30% bio (mixed
with 80% classic fuel). Needless to say I don't want to give a try with mine
Wink

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