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Bob Bitchin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:41 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:21 am
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absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the road for
those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have a variety of
vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont he best looking
out there). It does not hurt that they are about to start making hybrid
Lexus's.



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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:05 am
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"GO Mavs" wrote in message

> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the
> road for those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have a
> variety of vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont
> he best looking out there). It does not hurt that they are about to
> start making hybrid Lexus's.

Are you talking about he Lexus LS 600h? What a joke.

Ed
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:39 pm
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"GO Mavs" wrote in message

> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the road
> for those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have a variety of
> vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont he best looking
> out there). It does not hurt that they are about to start making hybrid
> Lexus's.
>

The hybrid version of the Lexus LX and GS models have been on the market for
a couple of years already. The LS 600H will be the 3rd Lexus hybrid sold
in the U.S.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:47 pm
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"C. E. White" wrote in message

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> "GO Mavs" wrote in message
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>> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the road
>> for those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have a variety of
>> vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont he best looking
>> out there). It does not hurt that they are about to start making hybrid
>> Lexus's.
>
> Are you talking about he Lexus LS 600h? What a joke.
>
> Ed

NO! The Lexus LS 600h is aimed at the super rich. Which many will buy. In
fact it is a matter of time before everyone in Hollywood owns one.Good deal
for LEXUS/TOYOTA..

Lexus is going to start making a more affordable luxury hybrid.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:47 pm
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"GO Mavs" wrote in message

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> "C. E. White" wrote in message
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>> "GO Mavs" wrote in message
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>>> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the
>>> road for those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have
>>> a variety of vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my
>>> opiniont he best looking out there). It does not hurt that they
>>> are about to start making hybrid Lexus's.
>>
>> Are you talking about he Lexus LS 600h? What a joke.
>>
>> Ed
>
> NO! The Lexus LS 600h is aimed at the super rich. Which many will
> buy. In fact it is a matter of time before everyone in Hollywood
> owns one.Good deal for LEXUS/TOYOTA..

OK, so it is Joke for idiots.

Ed
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:00 pm
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GO Mavs wrote:
> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the road for
> those who can still afford SUVish gas prices..

Aren't SUVish gas prices low gas prices like $1/gallon (excluding the
cost of the military in the middle east)?

> they have a variety of
> vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont he best looking
> out there). It does not hurt that they are about to start making hybrid
> Lexus's.

While Toyota looks like a good company, they are having growing pains.
GM and Ford are growing and making money outside the US. I wouldn't
count them out.

I wouldn't go and buy Toyota stock on this recommendation. The value of
a stock depends on many factors, including things like how many shares
are out, price to earnings ratio, expected growth and other factors. I
don't know how Ford and GM stack up either. ExxonMobil, ConocoPhilips
and other oil companies do. I wouldn't go with this guy's recommendation
to buy any stock.

Jeff

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:54 pm
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"C. E. White" wrote in message

> OK, so it is Joke for idiots.
>
> Ed

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/12/new-york-auto-show-2008-lexus-ls-600h-l/

I would say it is a nice looking car, wouldnt you?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:54 pm
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"GO Mavs" wrote in message

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> "C. E. White" wrote in message
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>> OK, so it is Joke for idiots.
>>
>> Ed
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> http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/12/new-york-auto-show-2008-lexus-ls-600h-l/
>
> I would say it is a nice looking car, wouldnt you?

It is not an ugly car, but it still a joke. Anybody that spends that
kind of money on a "hybrid" car is just trying to pretend to be
something they aren't. Same as Al Gore and his energy pig of a home,
or Arinna Huffington flying cross country in a private jet to attend
an anti-SUV rally because SUVs are so wasteful. Trendy Hypocrites. I
don't blame Toyota for catering to these jerks, but it is still a
joke.

Ed
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:09 pm
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"Jeff" wrote in message

> That's your opinion. I have a different opinion on the cars.
>
> However, a lot of people are buying these cars. The Escape SUV gets good
> mileage. Better, with the hybrid package.

Not enough people....


> Ford, GM and Chrysler all make good cars. They may not fit your tastes.
> But they do fit the tastes of lots of people.
>
> Jeff

No, they make cars that break down and don't last 300 k like the Camry and
other Toyotas and Jap cars. They are geared to the "always buy American"
crowd and those who can only get financed through such local dealerships.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:09 pm
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"GO Mavs" wrote in message

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> "Jeff" wrote in message
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>> That's your opinion. I have a different opinion on the cars.
>>
>> However, a lot of people are buying these cars. The Escape SUV gets
>> good mileage. Better, with the hybrid package.
>
> Not enough people....
>
>
>> Ford, GM and Chrysler all make good cars. They may not fit your
>> tastes. But they do fit the tastes of lots of people.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> No, they make cars that break down and don't last 300 k like the
> Camry and other Toyotas and Jap cars. They are geared to the "always
> buy American" crowd and those who can only get financed through such
> local dealerships.

BS. Any car can last 300k under the right conditions. And there are
plenty of Toyotas in the junk yard with less than 100k. The POS Toyota
I had was junk at 50k.

Ed
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:03 pm
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"C. E. White" wrote in message

> It is not an ugly car, but it still a joke. Anybody that spends that kind
> of money on a "hybrid" car is just trying to pretend to be something they
> aren't. Same as Al Gore and his energy pig of a home, or Arinna Huffington
> flying cross country in a private jet to attend an anti-SUV rally because
> SUVs are so wasteful. Trendy Hypocrites. I don't blame Toyota for catering
> to these jerks, but it is still a joke.
>
> Ed

but you're talking about hypcorisy on a great level vs. driving a nice
luxury fuel efficient vehicle. My folks are fairly well off but live a fuel
efficient life. They do not have a huge home, they use all new tech lights
(Whatever they are called), they recycle just about everything and have
decked out their property in trees. They also drive fuel efficient vehicles.

The car isnt necessarily selling its hybrid technology as much as it is
selling its luxury. The vehicle has 70% cleaner emissions release than any
other car. Is that at the least not a step in the right direction?

Also have you seen the GS and RX? nice vehicles.. nice emissions... nice
mileage...
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:31 pm
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"C. E. White" wrote in message

> BS. Any car can last 300k under the right conditions. And there are plenty
> of Toyotas in the junk yard with less than 100k. The POS Toyota I had was
> junk at 50k.
>
> Ed

Ed, is the kind of person I am talking about, he is one of the few who can
squeeze 300 thousand out of a Taurus and only gets 50'k lemon out of a
Toyota...

ED, you remind me of this guy I know. Pollution is fraud, American cars are
the best, Toyotas don't really get good life spans, we didn't land on the
moon, and the earth is possibly hollow...

You probably are so enamored in your opinions that you don't even realize
you contradicted your self in your above statement and admitted to being a
bad car owner and not keeping your car in the "right conditions."

Wink
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:16 pm
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message

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> "GO Mavs" wrote in message
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>> absolutely it is.. I am starting to see more rav's and FJ's on the road
>> for those who can still afford SUVish gas prices.. they have a variety of
>> vehicles... and nice looking economy cars (in my opiniont he best looking
>> out there). It does not hurt that they are about to start making hybrid
>> Lexus's.
>>
>
> The hybrid version of the Lexus LX and GS models have been on the market
> for a couple of years already. The LS 600H will be the 3rd Lexus hybrid
> sold in the U.S.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

I figured that out...
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:18 am
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:31:30 GMT, "GO Mavs" wrote:

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>"C. E. White" wrote in message
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>> BS. Any car can last 300k under the right conditions. And there are plenty
>> of Toyotas in the junk yard with less than 100k. The POS Toyota I had was
>> junk at 50k.
>>
>> Ed
>
>Ed, is the kind of person I am talking about, he is one of the few who can
>squeeze 300 thousand out of a Taurus and only gets 50'k lemon out of a
>Toyota...
>
>ED, you remind me of this guy I know. Pollution is fraud, American cars are
>the best, Toyotas don't really get good life spans, we didn't land on the
>moon, and the earth is possibly hollow...
>
>You probably are so enamored in your opinions that you don't even realize
>you contradicted your self in your above statement and admitted to being a
>bad car owner and not keeping your car in the "right conditions."
>
>Wink

You forgot the JFK Assassination "Magic Bullet" theory Vs. the
"Second Shooter on the Grassy Knoll" Vs. "It was a Mob Hit" debate.

Oh, and you also forgot the 'Elvis Factor' - a hair under 10% of the
American public is totally convinced that Elvis Aaron Presley faked
his death to get out of the limelight, and he is in deep seclusion in
his retirement. And 8% of them think the U.S. Government and the Post
Office are in on the scam and know where he is (because they still
want to get their taxes paid), address a letter to "Elvis" and the
USPS will get it to him...

* * * * *

Ed: Any Car can go 300K Miles if well maintained, and any car can
die at 50K Miles if beat to hell and never maintained. The tipping
point is when the immediate repairs to get the car running again at
any one failure are a lot more than the residual resale, scrap or
trade-in value of the car. (And postponing needed but non-critical
work until a critical breakdown happens is a fast way to get there.)

But all other factors being equal, by percentage of cars on the road
far more Toyotas get to 300K than any of the Big 3 Detroit Iron does.

Toyota takes a little more time and trouble to properly engineer and
debug all the component parts and systems to balance all three main
goals: Ease and cost of assembly, long service life, and ease and
cost of repair. So yes, a few things are going to wear out, but at a
far lower rate and lover overall repair cost than the norm.

Detroit /still/ hasn't totally figured that out yet, even though
Deming (an American) is the one that taught it to the Japanese in the
first place - try replacing the heater core on some Ford products and
it's going to take a pro wrench the better part of a day to totally
dismantle the dashboard to change the core and reassemble, and an
amateur will take two to three days.

Unless you want to cheat (and are ballsy enough to chance making
things much worse with your "shortcut") and start cutting your way in
with a Sawzall or a plasma torch...

--<< Bruce >>--
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