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David M

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:47 pm
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Doug

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:55 am
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Sorry for the delay in reply guys..... I was gone for a few days, but
yeah, thanks for all the replies though! I bought an old F150 Used, and I
was pulling the valve covers to reseat new gaskets, and noticed the oil
journals were pretty gunked up. I wanted to clean it up a bit to restore
flow, but as it sounds, I should leave well enough alone! Appreciate the
advice guys, but I'll keep the high detergent trick on the back burner...

Another question though...: Would tranny fluid be good to clean other parts
in though, rather than a solvent wash?? Like the valve covers for instance?
Soak them in it overnight and then brush them off? The availability of
solvent is here, but somewhat expensive for no more than I would use it.

Thanks,

Doug


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> Hi group, hope your all having a good day!
>
> I was wondering, is the Rislone or any other Engine cleaners worth the
> plastic there put in? I'm speaking of the kind they say to put in before
> an oil change, run it for a few miles, and then change your oil...
>
> Just curious about this for an older vehicle..
>
> TIA,
>
> Doug
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:24 am
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:47:32 -0500, David M wrote:


>> people wanted gauges but manufactures didn't want to risk the problems
>> which occur with the tubing and a real pressure gauge. There is no solid
>> state device reliable enough for a truely accurate reading for pressure
>> reading , YET. imho
>
>What are you talking about?

I made it clear >>> no solid state device <<< I'm not talking assemblies
which used electroncis.

the term "solid state" became increasingly used as a synonym for "no moving parts
see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_%28electronics%29

> There are lots of highly accurate,
>solid-state pressure sensors.

You said sensors , I DID NOT

>
>Look here:
>http://www.omega.com/toc_asp/sectionSC.asp?section=B&book=pressure

*YAWN* moving parts

>It's all about cost/benefit... Ford chooses not to use a real transducer
>because of cost, and the perception that the customer would not know the
>difference anyway. My 1994 Jeep Cherokee has a variable resistance
>transducer on the oil pressure gauge that works well enough.

* yawn*

>




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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:06 am
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:06 am
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:55 am
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:06:05 -0500, David M wrote:>
>Wrong. Do a search for 'piezoresistive strain gauge'
>Wrong. Piezo strain gauge. >
now take what you've learned and re-read my opinion as to why oil pressure
guages aren't used " YET" . nice big display maybe in half pound increments

offer the OP your opinion on his question
have a nice day
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:55 am
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:59:31 GMT, samstone.TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:06:05 -0500, David M wrote:>
>>Wrong. Do a search for 'piezoresistive strain gauge'
>>Wrong. Piezo strain gauge. >
>now take what you've learned and re-read my opinion as to why oil pressure
>guages aren't used " YET" . nice big display maybe in half pound increments
>
>offer the OP your opinion on his question
>have a nice day


The inaccuracies and reliablity issues are because of quality control
and cost cutting measures not because they are electronic devices.
Modern aircraft would not be able to fly without them nor would of any
of the space missions gotten off the ground. BTW a digital oil
pressure gage would not be a good deal for detriot because people
would complain about seeing oil pressure flux a few PSI of even less.
John Q Public would not embrace it well.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:56 pm
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