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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.DeleteThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> >>
>> Crybaby. You got pwnd because you couldn't act like a civilized human
>> being. If you weren't being such a dick, I would have just dropped the
>> subject. Sorry I hurt your feelings, I really thought you were an adult
>> male and not a little girl.
>
> no one had been pwnd by anyone... all i see, realistically, is you are
> shooting off at folks that don't necessarily agree with your point of
> view... but that's normal, if you don't agree with me you are wrong...<G>
>
>
Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin
with. He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio show. I
did, it wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it. It's like
when you guys rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit, despite the
overwhelming evidence to the contrary that he stole from that lady. The
facts really aren't up for interpretation there.
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"John" <nohj.RemoveThis@droffats.ten> wrote in message
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> Tracy wrote:
>
>> When I first started driving it 30 years ago, it *was* my only mode of
>> transport. When it broke down I switched to LPCs or the thumb. Now that
>> I'm older and (somewhat) wiser, I never dub it without a tool bag and an
>> extra fan belt and throttle cable. And yes I do own two other "real" cars
>> <grinning> that I drive when gremlins strike or the weather turns bad.
>
> Thanks for taking my ribbing in good humor. My eye-opening experience with
> ACVWs was with the original VW Doc in Chicago, Charles Harrison. He bought
> a VW mini-bus quite far from home. A friend drove us out to pick it up and
> drive it home. Charles brought a spare engine. Sure enough, a hundred
> miles from Chicago the engine dumped. He dropped the engine and replaced
> it right at the roadside. Damn, was I one impressed young puppy!

That's dedication right there!
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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.RemoveThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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> But what you believe to be true doesn't make it true because you believe
> it.

that was my point.... and if your source says it's "true" and you trust
that, you too could be mislead...


>There are still people out there that think there was no way we could have
>landed on the moon. However there is overwhelming evidence that we did
>which shows them to be wrong, and all of their theories have been shown to
>be false, yet they still believe. That said, you may agree with a majority
>of Rush Limbaugh's opinions, but he is not a credible source if you are
>looking to discover the truth about an issue. In fact, he frequently gets
>his facts wrong, and if you aren't willing to do the legwork to look up the
>truth, then you can be easily mislead by by what he says.

as was said before, by you, the "truth" is reported differently by different
sources... as i said, interpretation sometimes takes over and that is why
folks view things the way they do... in an opinion based conversation
facts(real or imagined) really don't matter....
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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.RemoveThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>
>
>> But what you believe to be true doesn't make it true because you believe
>> it.
>
> that was my point.... and if your source says it's "true" and you trust
> that, you too could be mislead...
>
That's why I check several (credible) sources.


>
>> There are still people out there that think there was no way we could have
>> landed on the moon. However there is overwhelming evidence that we did
>> which shows them to be wrong, and all of their theories have been shown to
>> be false, yet they still believe. That said, you may agree with a majority
>> of Rush Limbaugh's opinions, but he is not a credible source if you are
>> looking to discover the truth about an issue. In fact, he frequently gets
>> his facts wrong, and if you aren't willing to do the legwork to look up the
>> truth, then you can be easily mislead by by what he says.
>
> as was said before, by you, the "truth" is reported differently by different
> sources... as i said, interpretation sometimes takes over and that is why
> folks view things the way they do... in an opinion based conversation
> facts(real or imagined) really don't matter....
>
>
I would be willing to assert that an opinion based on a lie is not an
opinion, but rather an embellished lie.
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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2 DeleteThis @catholic.org> wrote in message
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> Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin with.
> He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio show. I did, it
> wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it. It's like when you guys
> rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit, despite the overwhelming
> evidence to the contrary that he stole from that lady. The facts really
> aren't up for interpretation there.

i don't see where that was any kind of "loss" of an argument... you let on
that nothing said on the radio show is credible but fail to realize(as i
pointed out) his show is no different than any other opinion based show or
column, or whatever... retractions are rarely remembered as well as the
initial statements anyway.
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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.RemoveThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>
>
>> Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin with.
>> He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio show. I did, it
>> wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it. It's like when you guys
>> rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit, despite the overwhelming
>> evidence to the contrary that he stole from that lady. The facts really
>> aren't up for interpretation there.
>
> i don't see where that was any kind of "loss" of an argument... you let on
> that nothing said on the radio show is credible but fail to realize(as i
> pointed out) his show is no different than any other opinion based show or
> column, or whatever... retractions are rarely remembered as well as the
> initial statements anyway.
>
>
My point was that Rush Limbaugh lies, and I proved it. No opinion is
involved.
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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.DeleteThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>
>
>> Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin with.
>> He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio show. I did, it
>> wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it. It's like when you guys
>> rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit, despite the overwhelming
>> evidence to the contrary that he stole from that lady. The facts really
>> aren't up for interpretation there.
>
> i don't see where that was any kind of "loss" of an argument... you let on
> that nothing said on the radio show is credible but fail to realize(as i
> pointed out) his show is no different than any other opinion based show or
> column, or whatever... retractions are rarely remembered as well as the
> initial statements anyway.

The truth is the turd proved nothing. I don't usually lower myself to
talking to fools like that. Anyway this group is a better now that I've
twitted him.

Tony
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Anthony W wrote:
> Joey Tribiani wrote:
>> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2 DeleteThis @catholic.org> wrote in message
>> news:Eopsk.50614$6p1.10411@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>
>>> Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin
>>> with. He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio
>>> show. I did, it wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it.
>>> It's like when you guys rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit,
>>> despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary that he stole from
>>> that lady. The facts really aren't up for interpretation there.
>>
>> i don't see where that was any kind of "loss" of an argument... you
>> let on that nothing said on the radio show is credible but fail to
>> realize(as i pointed out) his show is no different than any other
>> opinion based show or column, or whatever... retractions are rarely
>> remembered as well as the initial statements anyway.
>
> The truth is the turd proved nothing. I don't usually lower myself to
> talking to fools like that. Anyway this group is a better now that I've
> twitted him.
>
The truth is you need somebody like Rush Limbaugh to provide you with
opinions, because you are too stupid to to form your own. Yet, you call
me a fool.
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"Anthony W" <technojock.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Joey Tribiani wrote:
>> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.TakeThisOut@catholic.org> wrote in message
>> news:Eopsk.50614$6p1.10411@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>
>>> Nah, he lost an argument he probably shouldn't have been in to begin
>>> with. He dchallenged me to prove Rush Limbaugh lied on his radio show. I
>>> did, it wasn't an opinion. Then he got all pissy about it. It's like
>>> when you guys rag on that Mario guy and he won't admit, despite the
>>> overwhelming evidence to the contrary that he stole from that lady. The
>>> facts really aren't up for interpretation there.
>>
>> i don't see where that was any kind of "loss" of an argument... you let
>> on that nothing said on the radio show is credible but fail to realize(as
>> i pointed out) his show is no different than any other opinion based show
>> or column, or whatever... retractions are rarely remembered as well as
>> the initial statements anyway.
>
> The truth is the turd proved nothing. I don't usually lower myself to
> talking to fools like that. Anyway this group is a better now that I've
> twitted him.
>
> Tony
>

Turd is working on proving something, however I fear it's not what he set
out to prove...
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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2.RemoveThis@catholic.org> wrote in message
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>>
> That's why I check several (credible) sources.

let me guess... credible means you agree with their views?


>
> I would be willing to assert that an opinion based on a lie is not an
> opinion, but rather an embellished lie.

not that I really care, but I disagree.... as I said before, if you trust
your sources (yes, even the ones you like) and they report something that
turns out to be not true, you can't be embellishing anything... a lie is an
intentional act, not an opinion based on information... period... whether
you agree or not..
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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2 RemoveThis @catholic.org> wrote in message
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> >>
>> That's why I check several (credible) sources.
>
> let me guess... credible means you agree with their views?
>
No, because they present facts not colored by opinions.

>
> > I would be willing to assert that an opinion based on a lie is not an
>> opinion, but rather an embellished lie.
>
> not that I really care, but I disagree.... as I said before, if you trust
> your sources (yes, even the ones you like) and they report something that
> turns out to be not true, you can't be embellishing anything... a lie is an
> intentional act, not an opinion based on information... period... whether
> you agree or not..

Right. So when Rush Limbaugh says the Chinese are drilling for oil off
the coast of Florida and then further uses that lie as a basis for his
opinion, that is an embellished lie. When Dick Cheny issues a press
statement that the Chinese are not drilling for oil off the coast of
Cuba/Florida as he previously stated it is a fact. I quoted the fox news
report, which was taken from the associated press. I only quoted the fox
report because if I quoted some other report I may be accused of some
sort of bias, but the AP report is cited in hundreds of places. There
are other sources of information available, not the least of which is
simply looking it up on google earth where the resolution is enough to
show oil rigs close to shore, of which there are none off cuba, but the
information is not really complete. What made me skeptical about the
story in the first place was
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=19479
an excerpt: "I saw all kinds of wells with Chinese writing on them just
south of the Keys," Leonard Gropper, a Marathon, Florida retiree, told
the June 20 Orlando Sun-Sentinel.

This is of course not true for a number of reasons. If you have ever
stood on the shore and looked out to sea, you would know why.
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"Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2 DeleteThis @catholic.org> wrote in message
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> Certainly not me. However, just be aware that there are forces out there
> who are trying to manipulate your opinion and they don't have your best
> interests in mind.

absolutely... lots of folks whole-heartedly believe many credible sources
that aren't always out there to just keep you informed...<G>
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Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <turdfred2 DeleteThis @catholic.org> wrote in message
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> > Certainly not me. However, just be aware that there are forces out there
>> who are trying to manipulate your opinion and they don't have your best
>> interests in mind.
>
> absolutely... lots of folks whole-heartedly believe many credible sources
> that aren't always out there to just keep you informed...<G>
>
>
Like Fox news and Rush Limbaugh
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