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Since: Feb 27, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:34 pm
Post subject: Horrendous mileage, no gas smell
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My '99 Plymouth Voyager is getting about 3 miles per gallon; used 1/2 tank
to drive to Detroit and back to Ann Arbor (about 60 minutes of driving).
Notice needle going way down on short trips as well.

No smell of gas, tank doesn't empty when car's not running, exhaust doesn't
smell overly gassy. Replaced thermostat, air filter, and O2 sensor about 2
months ago. Engine sounds fine, seems to run exactly as it has for 6 years,
only 70,000 miles on it.

Does anyone have any idea of what could cause this tremendous use of gas,
with all of the above? My only guess was that the O2 sensor was put in
wrong, or was the wrong type, but a mechanic told me over the phone that I'd
get trouble codes or something if the O2 sensor was the wrong type, or not
working correctly.

This is a really serious issue, and I was hoping to get some advice before
paying $100 to have the thing hooked up to the computer. I mean, w/ no
Service Engine light, that means there's no trouble codes, right? So
wouldn't the big computer say the same thing?

Any advice whatsoever would be greatly appreciated, and thanks for reading.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:55 am
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My first impression is a fuel leak and not all fuel leaks are
apparent. My second is a poor electrical connections to the cam/crank
sensors sending an intermittent false signal. My third is oxygen
sensor - replacements go bad fast or are incorrect especialy if they
are aftermarket. My fourth is a non functioning exhaust gas
recirculator valve or a fault in the electric circuit. One also
assumes the transmission is actually shifting out of first gear.

Not all problems will set a code or if setting a code, turn on the
engine lite (one assumes the lite is funtioning). A steady lite on
(or not) indicates a problem, an intermittent code sets (or not) an
intermittent lite and indicates a serious problem.

Hooking it up to a code extractor has to be cheaper than the cost of
the fuel.

Pete

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AlBundy




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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:31 am
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If you are reporting this accurately, I don't see how the vehicle can run well and get 3 miles per gallon. It would not run well. Or you would sense the transmission slipping, which is a common enough problem with them.
So I'm stuck with the high pressure leak theory. And if it were leaking that much it probably wouldn't run well either! The numbers or your sense of smell stink here.
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