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(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:04 am
Post subject: Re: Every Gear Acts Like Neutral [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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PeterOut <MajorSetback.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in
news:f41b8754-a1c8-43eb-b306-631a34bd9aec@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 27, 10:07 pm, "JP" <xjj_pott....RemoveThis@xhotmailx.com> wrote:
>> "PeterOut" <MajorSetb....RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
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>> news:426f8dc2-c88d-4596-b2cf-6fd9f87ee88f@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com
>> ...
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>> > My wife recently purchased an automatic 2001 Honda Civic. We took
>> > it to a supposedly very reputable mechanic to check it out during
>> > the 30 day trial period. They found nothing wrong. Now it has
>> > just stopped working. Whatever gear we put it into, it acts like
>> > it is neutral. Put our foot down on the accelerator and it whines
>> > but doesn't move. It seems like the engine is not engaging.
>>
>> > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>> > Peter.
>>
>> Check the transmission fluid. If the fluid level gets low enough,
>> you won't get any output from the torque converter.
>
> Thanks. I checked the transmission fluid. Is was clean and in the
> normal range.
>
I just read through this thread. What a lot of usless garbage.
Evidently nobody though to check for known problems with this model. There
is one. It is exactly what you're experiencing.
Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in ALL '01
Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch. The cure is to
replace the transmission with one which has an upgraded 2nd clutch
assembly.
Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem is
eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get approval
from Honda for this.
Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original tranny,
you may be in luck.
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:47 am
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All our used cars with less than 100,000 have a limited warrenty, and it you
had bought it from us there would be scrambling to get it repaired.
Check with the dealership. Raise a fuss, perhaps the will step up..
Steve
"PeterOut" <MajorSetback.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
news:7bd200d6-e490-43fc-b821-8a159daa52e6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 27, 10:03 pm, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> B) What class action? Are thousands of people affected by this 1
>> mechanic
>> not predicting a future issue with a 6 year old used car? Or do you mean
>> against Honda who sold this car 6 years ago and weren't the ones
>> responsible
>> for maintaining it?
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> It was a Honda purchased from a Honda dealer. |
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:30 am
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Tegger wrote:
> PeterOut <MajorSetback DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in
> news:f41b8754-a1c8-43eb-b306-631a34bd9aec@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
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>> On Jan 27, 10:07 pm, "JP" <xjj_pott... DeleteThis @xhotmailx.com> wrote:
>>> "PeterOut" <MajorSetb... DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:426f8dc2-c88d-4596-b2cf-6fd9f87ee88f@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> My wife recently purchased an automatic 2001 Honda Civic. We took
>>>> it to a supposedly very reputable mechanic to check it out during
>>>> the 30 day trial period. They found nothing wrong. Now it has
>>>> just stopped working. Whatever gear we put it into, it acts like
>>>> it is neutral. Put our foot down on the accelerator and it whines
>>>> but doesn't move. It seems like the engine is not engaging.
>>>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Peter.
>>> Check the transmission fluid. If the fluid level gets low enough,
>>> you won't get any output from the torque converter.
>> Thanks. I checked the transmission fluid. Is was clean and in the
>> normal range.
>>
>
>
>
> I just read through this thread. What a lot of usless garbage.
>
> Evidently nobody though to check for known problems with this model. There
> is one. It is exactly what you're experiencing.
>
> Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in ALL '01
> Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch. The cure is to
> replace the transmission with one which has an upgraded 2nd clutch
> assembly.
>
> Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem is
> eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get approval
> from Honda for this.
>
> Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original tranny,
> you may be in luck.
Odd... the only thing I found on the web that actually had a definition
for this TSB (almost every hit I got described the symptoms, but not the
actual problem) suggested it was a blown hydraulic pump... which is what
I suggested in the first place.
Well either way, it's a job for a good shop or dealership... >> Stay informed about: Every Gear Acts Like Neutral |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:49 am
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Matt Ion <soundy106 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:
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>> Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in
>> ALL '01 Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch. The
>> cure is to replace the transmission with one which has an upgraded
>> 2nd clutch assembly.
>>
>> Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem is
>> eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get
>> approval from Honda for this.
>>
>> Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original
>> tranny, you may be in luck.
>
> Odd... the only thing I found on the web that actually had a
> definition for this TSB (almost every hit I got described the
> symptoms, but not the actual problem) suggested it was a blown
> hydraulic pump...
Unless this is a situation unique to the OP's car, it is not a blown pump.
The actual TSB document may be found here:
http://search.ebscohost.com/
Login with username lib and password access
Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from menu at left.
Navigate to the OP's car.
I keep posting that link, but nobody but me ever looks stuff up there.
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Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:49 am
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Tegger wrote:
> Matt Ion <soundy106 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
> news:gFBoj.33540$ow.26790@pd7urf1no:
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>> Tegger wrote:
> .
>>> Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in
>>> ALL '01 Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch. The
>>> cure is to replace the transmission with one which has an upgraded
>>> 2nd clutch assembly.
>>>
>>> Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem is
>>> eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get
>>> approval from Honda for this.
>>>
>>> Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original
>>> tranny, you may be in luck.
>> Odd... the only thing I found on the web that actually had a
>> definition for this TSB (almost every hit I got described the
>> symptoms, but not the actual problem) suggested it was a blown
>> hydraulic pump...
>
>
>
> Unless this is a situation unique to the OP's car, it is not a blown pump.
>
> The actual TSB document may be found here:
> http://search.ebscohost.com/
> Login with username lib and password access
> Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from menu at left.
> Navigate to the OP's car.
>
> I keep posting that link, but nobody but me ever looks stuff up there.
>
but they sure do complain if they don't like the advice they get [and
are not paying for]! >> Stay informed about: Every Gear Acts Like Neutral |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:28 pm
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jim beam <spamvortex.TakeThisOut@bad.example.net> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:
>> Matt Ion <soundy106.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:gFBoj.33540$ow.26790@pd7urf1no:
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>>> Tegger wrote:
>> .
>>>> Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in
>>>> ALL '01 Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch.
>>>> The cure is to replace the transmission with one which has an
>>>> upgraded 2nd clutch assembly.
>>>>
>>>> Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem
>>>> is eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get
>>>> approval from Honda for this.
>>>>
>>>> Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original
>>>> tranny, you may be in luck.
>>> Odd... the only thing I found on the web that actually had a
>>> definition for this TSB (almost every hit I got described the
>>> symptoms, but not the actual problem) suggested it was a blown
>>> hydraulic pump...
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless this is a situation unique to the OP's car, it is not a blown
>> pump.
>>
>> The actual TSB document may be found here:
>> http://search.ebscohost.com/
>> Login with username lib and password access
>> Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from menu at left.
>> Navigate to the OP's car.
>>
>> I keep posting that link, but nobody but me ever looks stuff up
>> there.
>>
>
> but they sure do complain if they don't like the advice they get [and
> are not paying for]!
>
My advice is worth every penny. ;^)
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:28 pm
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:14 pm
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Tegger wrote:
>>> The actual TSB document may be found here:
>>> http://search.ebscohost.com/
>>> Login with username lib and password access
>>> Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from menu at left.
>>> Navigate to the OP's car.
>>>
>>> I keep posting that link, but nobody but me ever looks stuff up
>>> there.
And I apologize for not thanking you earlier for that great link (and
credentials<g>)
>> but they sure do complain if they don't like the advice they get [and
>> are not paying for]!
The ones I love (Not!) are the clueless who ask a question and then tell
the poster that they're wrong. Plonk!
>
> My advice is worth every penny. ;^)
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:39 pm
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Unquestionably Confused <Who.TakeThisOut@WhatWhere.com> wrote in news:rzHoj.1389
$R84.491@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
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>>> but they sure do complain if they don't like the advice they get [and
>>> are not paying for]!
>
> The ones I love (Not!) are the clueless who ask a question and then tell
> the poster that they're wrong. Plonk!
Or the idiots who come here, ask a question, get answered, then just
disappear, never giving any sort of followup.
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:32 pm
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Gene Wagenbreth wrote:
> Tegger
>
> http://search.ebscohost.com/
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> I tried to log in to the site with lib, access. didnt work.
> Made my own account.
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> Could not find Auto Repair Reference Center.
>
> Is that the correct site?
It is, and they do. I just logged in. It's still working.
The auto repair reference center is on the left side of the page once
you're in. It'll bite you if you don't watch out!<g> >> Stay informed about: Every Gear Acts Like Neutral |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:23 am
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Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4> wrote in news:fo06k2$cn7@venera.isi.edu:
> Tegger
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> http://search.ebscohost.com/
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> I tried to log in to the site with lib, access. didnt work.
> Made my own account.
>
> Could not find Auto Repair Reference Center.
>
> Is that the correct site?
>
Sure is.
Just copied and pasted what you have above and it works swimmingly.
What's your browser's security setup? What browser?
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:19 am
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Tegger wrote:
> Matt Ion <soundy106.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:gFBoj.33540$ow.26790@pd7urf1no:
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>> Tegger wrote:
> .
>>> Your dealer has a copy of TSB 04-036, which covers this problem in
>>> ALL '01 Civics. The problem is excessive wear in the 2nd clutch. The
>>> cure is to replace the transmission with one which has an upgraded
>>> 2nd clutch assembly.
>>>
>>> Even if you're out of the normal warranty, this particular problem is
>>> eligible for "goodwill" warranty coverage. The dealer must get
>>> approval from Honda for this.
>>>
>>> Visit your local Honda dealer. If this car still has its original
>>> tranny, you may be in luck.
>> Odd... the only thing I found on the web that actually had a
>> definition for this TSB (almost every hit I got described the
>> symptoms, but not the actual problem) suggested it was a blown
>> hydraulic pump...
>
>
>
> Unless this is a situation unique to the OP's car, it is not a blown pump.
>
> The actual TSB document may be found here:
> http://search.ebscohost.com/
> Login with username lib and password access
> Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from menu at left.
> Navigate to the OP's car.
>
> I keep posting that link, but nobody but me ever looks stuff up there.
I did find another copy of the actual TSB - you were correct, it's for
the second clutch. Someone needs to make a search engine that'll
actually give me what I WANT, not what I ask for. >> Stay informed about: Every Gear Acts Like Neutral |
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:21 pm
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> I did find another copy of the actual TSB - you were correct, it's for the
> second clutch. Someone needs to make a search engine that'll actually
> give me what I WANT, not what I ask for.
That reminds me of a computer operating system called DWIM.
Do What I Meant
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