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algomedic

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:36 pm
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Hi, we just bought a 1998 CRV (128,000 km) and took it to the dealer
for a checkup - they mentioned that Honda reccommends changing the
timing belt (based on its age). My question is... is there enough
clearence between the valves and piston that if the belt breaks, it
won't damage the engine beyond repair??? thanks...

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:52 pm
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"Elle" wrote in message

> No, this CRV is an interference engine. If the TB fails, the valves may
> very well be damaged. Do not gamble on this. Either find out when the TB
> was last changed and post back, or just do the change and consider it an
> investment.
>
In addition, a recent thread on the Subaru forum underscores the wisdom of
replacing the water pump and idler/tensioner at the same time. The OP in
that thread suffered a water pump failure that destroyed his nearly new
timing belt (and the engine, of course). Another regular told of his Toyota
that suffered timing belt failure 4000 km after the belt had been changed
because the tensioner seized. I know some people insist that replacing those
parts on suspicion is a waste of money, but what a heartbreaker it is!

Mike

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Curly Q. Links1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:54 pm
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wrote:
>
> Hi, we just bought a 1998 CRV (128,000 km) and took it to the dealer
> for a checkup - they mentioned that Honda reccommends changing the
> timing belt (based on its age). My question is... is there enough
> clearence between the valves and piston that if the belt breaks, it
> won't damage the engine beyond repair??? thanks...

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The 1998 CR-V manual has at least two big mistakes in the maintenance
schedule. Both the valve adjustment and the replacement of the Dual Pump
Fluid (rear differential) should be done every 30,000 miles.(but get a
manual anyway, saves typing)

'Curly'
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Elle

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:42 am
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No, this CRV is an interference engine. If the TB fails, the
valves may very well be damaged. Do not gamble on this.
Either find out when the TB was last changed and post back,
or just do the change and consider it an investment.

See the following for documentation on the TB interval for
your CRV:
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=2256&location_id=3487

Did you obtain an owner's manual with this CRV? It has a
guide for when things like the TB need maintenance.

wrote
> Hi, we just bought a 1998 CRV (128,000 km) and took it to
> the dealer
> for a checkup - they mentioned that Honda reccommends
> changing the
> timing belt (based on its age). My question is... is
> there enough
> clearence between the valves and piston that if the belt
> breaks, it
> won't damage the engine beyond repair??? thanks...
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:55 am
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"Michael Pardee" wrote
> "Elle" wrote
>> No, this CRV is an interference engine. If the TB fails,
>> the valves may very well be damaged. Do not gamble on
>> this. Either find out when the TB was last changed and
>> post back, or just do the change and consider it an
>> investment.
>>
> In addition, a recent thread on the Subaru forum
> underscores the wisdom of replacing the water pump and
> idler/tensioner at the same time. The OP in that thread
> suffered a water pump failure that destroyed his nearly
> new timing belt (and the engine, of course). Another
> regular told of his Toyota that suffered timing belt
> failure 4000 km after the belt had been changed because
> the tensioner seized. I know some people insist that
> replacing those parts on suspicion is a waste of money,
> but what a heartbreaker it is!

I thought everyone--dealers, people here, independent
shops--agreed that doing the water pump simultaneous to the
TB was a good idea.

I think there's less agreement on the tensioner.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:47 am
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"Elle" wrote in message

> "Michael Pardee" wrote
>> "Elle" wrote
>>> No, this CRV is an interference engine. If the TB fails, the valves may
>>> very well be damaged. Do not gamble on this. Either find out when the TB
>>> was last changed and post back, or just do the change and consider it an
>>> investment.
>>>
>> In addition, a recent thread on the Subaru forum underscores the wisdom
>> of replacing the water pump and idler/tensioner at the same time. The OP
>> in that thread suffered a water pump failure that destroyed his nearly
>> new timing belt (and the engine, of course). Another regular told of his
>> Toyota that suffered timing belt failure 4000 km after the belt had been
>> changed because the tensioner seized. I know some people insist that
>> replacing those parts on suspicion is a waste of money, but what a
>> heartbreaker it is!
>
> I thought everyone--dealers, people here, independent shops--agreed that
> doing the water pump simultaneous to the TB was a good idea.
>
> I think there's less agreement on the tensioner.
>

I was still uncertain about the tensioner for the same reason the objectors
cited: it is smooth and rides on the back of the belt. But since the sad
tale was from one of the valuable contributors in the Subaru forum I'm going
to pay attention. If only the things were more reasonably priced. Sad

Mike
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:36 am
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How many miles in the real world is 128,000km?

Tom


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> Hi, we just bought a 1998 CRV (128,000 km) and took it to the dealer
> for a checkup - they mentioned that Honda reccommends changing the
> timing belt (based on its age). My question is... is there enough
> clearence between the valves and piston that if the belt breaks, it
> won't damage the engine beyond repair??? thanks...
>
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High Tech Misfit

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:55 am
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twfsa wrote:

> How many miles in the real world is 128,000km?
>
> Tom
>
Multiply by 0.621 to get miles. In this case, about 79,500 miles.
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