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Roger Hamilton

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:18 pm
Post subject: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert
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I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002
F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a
higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no
noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight
and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc...

>> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

Tom40

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? "Roger Hamilton" <noemail.RemoveThis@deademail.tyx> wrote in message news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 > F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a > higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no > noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight > and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

SRN

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 > F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a > higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no > noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight > and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... 120K mileage is nothing these days with modern engines. Keep using the Mobil One and it'll probably go to 300K and beyond with proper maintenance. >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

Jeff

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Roger Hamilton wrote: > I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 > F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a > higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no > noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight > and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... The engine sounds "tight?" How does it sound differently than when it is "loose." There is no need to change oil type. Jeff >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

clare at snyder dot ontar

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:41:39 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote: >Roger Hamilton wrote: >> I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... > >The engine sounds "tight?" How does it sound differently than when it is > "loose." > >There is no need to change oil type. > >Jeff No need to change oil type - but when I run an engine hard in high temps I ALWAYS use heavier oil. (and all my vehicles are, by definition, high mileage, because I buy them at 100,000Km plus, about 10 years old for $5000 or less and drive them 'till they are done - usually well over 15 years old. I take care of them, but they earn their keep. Posted from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

Jim Warman1

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

If you listen real close at the tailpipe....... a "loose" motor can be heard to utter "Hey, sailor.... wanna get lucky?". "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:D60%j.14125$2C.12416@trndny08... > Roger Hamilton wrote: >> I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... > > The engine sounds "tight?" How does it sound differently than when it is > "loose." > > There is no need to change oil type. > > Jeff >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

Roger Hamilton

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote: >you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >"Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message >news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... > The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What are you recommending? >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message news:s88r34l355ocgp7fn9ihq6ruhm90gcat2q@4ax.com... > On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport RemoveThis @optonline.net> > wrote: > >>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >> > > The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What > are you recommending? The owner's manual recommends "Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil." I believe that's what the other Tom is referring to. SC Tom >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

yup. that be the recomended oil that i was refering to, the 5-20 the book calls for. "SC Tom" <sc.TakeThisOut@tom.net> wrote in message news:OGj%j.779$jz2.553@newsfe02.lga... > > "Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message > news:s88r34l355ocgp7fn9ihq6ruhm90gcat2q@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> >> wrote: >> >>>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >>> >> >> The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What >> are you recommending? > > The owner's manual recommends "Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic > Blend Motor Oil." I believe that's what the other Tom is referring to. > > SC Tom > > >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

clare at snyder dot ontar

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 28 May 2008 14:16:01 -0400, Roger Hamilton <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote: >On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> >wrote: > >>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >> > >The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What >are you recommending? He likely thinks you should be using 5W20. Posted from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

clare at snyder dot ontar

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 28 May 2008 16:57:18 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc.TakeThisOut@tom.net> wrote: > >"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >news:s88r34l355ocgp7fn9ihq6ruhm90gcat2q@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> >> wrote: >> >>>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.TakeThisOut@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >>> >> >> The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What >> are you recommending? > >The owner's manual recommends "Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic Blend >Motor Oil." I believe that's what the other Tom is referring to. > >SC Tom > Not ALL Ford engines recommend the 5W20, and those that do, the majority recommend synthetic or synthetic blend. You CAN use 5W30 in any engine that recommends 5W20. The critical cold flow is the SAME on both. 5W20 gains a couple tenths in the CAFE over 5W30 - and that is the ONLY reason it is recommended. Posted from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

Roger Hamilton

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:09:40 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport.DeleteThis@optonline.net> wrote: >yup. that be the recomended oil that i was refering to, the 5-20 the book >calls for. >"SC Tom" <sc.DeleteThis@tom.net> wrote in message >news:OGj%j.779$jz2.553@newsfe02.lga... >> >> "Roger Hamilton" <noemail.DeleteThis@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >> news:s88r34l355ocgp7fn9ihq6ruhm90gcat2q@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport.DeleteThis@optonline.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>>>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>>>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail.DeleteThis@deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>>>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>>>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>>>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>>>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>>>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >>>> >>> >>> The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What >>> are you recommending? >> >> The owner's manual recommends "Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic >> Blend Motor Oil." I believe that's what the other Tom is referring to. >> >> SC Tom >> >> > That presents a follow up question, would switching to 5 - 20 present any problems since I have been using 5 - 30 from day one? >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

it will give less friction in the engine, and should give you better fuel mileage. "Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message news:8t5s34hjpg9utfqjkmsk6e54tl7ambhch1@4ax.com... > On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:09:40 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport RemoveThis @optonline.net> > wrote: > >>yup. that be the recomended oil that i was refering to, the 5-20 the book >>calls for. >>"SC Tom" <sc RemoveThis @tom.net> wrote in message >>news:OGj%j.779$jz2.553@newsfe02.lga... >>> >>> "Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>> news:s88r34l355ocgp7fn9ihq6ruhm90gcat2q@4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:48:16 -0500, "Tom" <tjctransport RemoveThis @optonline.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>you are already using a higher viscosity than recomended oil. >>>>>why would you want to go higher, other than to get worse gas mileage?? >>>>>"Roger Hamilton" <noemail RemoveThis @deademail.tyx> wrote in message >>>>>news:m4vm34ho24re4fqat1gp1liv9pggarbhm1@4ax.com... >>>>>>I have been using 5-30, Mobil 1 synthetic since day one in my 2002 >>>>>> F250. I now have 120K miles on it and should I be thinking of a >>>>>> higher viscosity oil range with the higher mileage? I have no >>>>>> noticeable oil usage that I can detect visually. Engine sounds tight >>>>>> and no observable oil leaks from engine component areas, etc... >>>>> >>>> >>>> The oil viscosity presently used is the recommended viscosity. What >>>> are you recommending? >>> >>> The owner's manual recommends "Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 Premium Synthetic >>> Blend Motor Oil." I believe that's what the other Tom is referring to. >>> >>> SC Tom >>> >>> >> > > That presents a follow up question, would switching to 5 - 20 present > any problems since I have been using 5 - 30 from day one? >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Higher Oil Viscosity? Get Alert [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <esur349gush3sbarfg06c7p2urehgn4rnu.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote: > Not ALL Ford engines recommend the 5W20, and those that do, the > majority recommend synthetic or synthetic blend. You CAN use 5W30 in > any engine that recommends 5W20. You could use the 5W30 if you found one that meets Fords WSS approvals. But, since there isn't such an animal... > The critical cold flow is the SAME on > both. And the High Temperature High Shear specs aren't. > 5W20 gains a couple tenths in the CAFE over 5W30 - and that is > the ONLY reason it is recommended. -That- totally ignores Fords oil specifications, which happen to be a whole lot more important than simplistic viscosity myths. >> Stay informed about: Higher Oil Viscosity?

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