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trcakd916

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:29 pm
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I have a 1994 Chevrolet Cavalier. It is getting gas, i changed the plugs,
wires, computer(under windshield),coil packs, and some under hood relays
andit will not start. Can anyone give me some advice on what to look for
and what to check? thank you

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jamiegoforth

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:36 pm
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You didn't say which engine.
If it has a 2.8 or a 3.1, there is a technical service bulletin out on
these, whereas the crank sensor gets oil in it, rendering it inoperable.
Then, when you go to start it, the ECM doesn't fire the ignition and/or
the injectors since it doesn't "know" the engine is cranking.
Does the tach move while you're cranking it??
You can check the crank sensor resistance (static) as well as output
(during cranking) to see if it's out of range.
Anyone know the specs?
You need an analog meter to check the sensors voltage while cranking.
Mine did that ('89, 2.Cool and I got out cheap as I had a donor car to
rob the sensor off of--otherwise they're rather spendy.
Then after overwinter storage it wouldn't start again, and I unplugged
& blasted the connector pins on the sensor and it fired right up.
That's probably all it needed the first time it acted up.
According to the TSB, many come into the shop and will start again
after replacing the crank sensor, although the old one they discarded
was likely still good.
Super easy to change, one bolt and it slides right out. As such, you
could possibly rob one from the junker, but it's unlikely you'd know for
sure it was good. Maybe first just unplug it and blast the connector
with electronic cleaner.
Anyway, it must be a common problem, I can vouch for that as it's
happened twice with two different sensors.

BTW, now it's a ritual every oil change or two, unplug that connector
and blast it with electronic cleaner.

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Larry A.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:09 am
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And on a simpler note, it's also possible that the ignition switch has
given up the ghost. I've had several vehicles give me fits when this
started going out.

There are two circuits - one to start the engine (briefly), and
another to supply (and maintain) ignition voltage. Either circuit can
be flakey with a bad keyswitch.

Is it dead cold, or intermittent? Does it crank at all? (I assume it
cranks, or you wouldn't be changing plugs, etc.)

Used to be easier to work on this stuff without **&&*&%^% air bag
wiring under the dash.

-= Larry A.

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:29:46 -0400, "trcakd916" <trcamt312.TakeThisOut@aol.com>
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>I have a 1994 Chevrolet Cavalier. It is getting gas, i changed the plugs,
>wires, computer(under windshield),coil packs, and some under hood relays
>andit will not start. Can anyone give me some advice on what to look for
>and what to check? thank you
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trcakd916

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:47 am
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It is a 2.2L 4 cylinder, sorry for not posting that. Does the 2.2L have
this crank sensor and where is it located? It does turn over.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:50 pm
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I don't know where it's located but since it's an altogether different
engine, that being the problem is a lot less likely.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:52 pm
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Just curious: Did you have a donor car to rob these parts off of, or
did you buy all that stuff new?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:25 pm
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I got the parts off my best friends 94 cavalier, I know ALL the parts are
good because his ran perfect until it through a rod. Then I got all those
parts.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:15 am
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you said you replaced all these parts, but you never said if it
actually gets spark, and gets it in relation to the cylinder that is
supposed to be firing. if it's getting spark, how are you SURE it's
getting fuel? test the pressure at the manifold? if it's not
getting spark, you can always temp wire up the hot side of the coils
assuming you can get to them to do it. if it runs with them wired up
hot then you have a break in your circuit somewhere - possibilities
include no power on coil when key is in start position, an ignition
kill relay somewhere in the car that may have been hooked up that you
didn't know about from an alarm it may have had at one time, or just a
broken or disconnected coil wire somewhere. if you're not getting
fuel pressure at the manifold, check for power at the pump in the
tank.
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