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Since: Nov 14, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:57 am
Post subject: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again.
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My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
Monday the new battery was dead.
I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
checked.
My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
I'd appreciate your reply. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:41 am
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
>battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
>expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
>getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
>
>I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
>car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
>Monday the new battery was dead.
>
>I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
>didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
>
>My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
>the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
>the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
>checked.
>
>My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
>Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
>the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
>
>I'd appreciate your reply.
Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
battery while it's sitting.
To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
-- Christian |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:41 am
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
>battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
>expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
>getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
>
>I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
>car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
>Monday the new battery was dead.
>
>I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
>didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
>
>My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
>the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
>the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
>checked.
>
>My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
>Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
>the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
>
>I'd appreciate your reply.
Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
battery while it's sitting.
To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
-- Christian >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:41 am
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
>battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
>expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
>getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
>
>I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
>car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
>Monday the new battery was dead.
>
>I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
>didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
>
>My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
>the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
>the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
>checked.
>
>My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
>Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
>the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
>
>I'd appreciate your reply.
Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
battery while it's sitting.
To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
-- Christian >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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CMM wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
> <dthlln.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
> >battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
> >expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
> >getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
> >
> >I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
> >car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
> >Monday the new battery was dead.
> >
> >I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
> >didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
> >
> >My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
> >the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
> >the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
> >checked.
> >
> >My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
> >Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
> >the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
> >
> >I'd appreciate your reply.
>
> Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
>
> It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
> be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
> battery while it's sitting.
>
> To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
> running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
>
> -- Christian
Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
out. They were much nicer, too!
The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
only when I need to.
Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
Your reply is greatly appreciated. >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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CMM wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
> <dthlln.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
> >battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
> >expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
> >getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
> >
> >I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
> >car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
> >Monday the new battery was dead.
> >
> >I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
> >didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
> >
> >My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
> >the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
> >the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
> >checked.
> >
> >My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
> >Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
> >the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
> >
> >I'd appreciate your reply.
>
> Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
>
> It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
> be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
> battery while it's sitting.
>
> To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
> running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
>
> -- Christian
Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
out. They were much nicer, too!
The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
only when I need to.
Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
Your reply is greatly appreciated. >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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CMM wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2006 09:57:26 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
> <dthlln.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >My 2001 Kia Sephia suddenly went dead a couple of years ago. Got a new
> >battery. Car ran fine. On Friday, suddenly my battery was dead, as
> >expected. They don't last forever. I should have noticed as it was
> >getting harder to start the car the first time every day.
> >
> >I got a new battery on Friday and drove to several places. I drove the
> >car on Saturday, it was fine. I didn't drive the car on Sunday. On
> >Monday the new battery was dead.
> >
> >I'll take the car and battery back today, to make sure that Les Schwab
> >didn't give me a bum battery, or that they made the proper connections.
> >
> >My first question: don't they check to make sure the alternator is not
> >the problem when you buy a new battery? The symptoms were the same as
> >the last time my battery went dead, but I thought they would have
> >checked.
> >
> >My second question: I'm unfamiliar with car repair places in
> >Sacramento, what to look for and what is a reasonable price if it is
> >the alternator. With part and labor, what's the reasonable cost?
> >
> >I'd appreciate your reply.
>
> Some (most?) places will just sell you a battery.
>
> It sounds like your problem occurs when the car is sitting. It could
> be the battery or it could be something in the car is discharging the
> battery while it's sitting.
>
> To check the alternator, with the battery fully charged and the car
> running, check the voltage across the battery posts. It should be ~14.
>
> -- Christian
Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
out. They were much nicer, too!
The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
only when I need to.
Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
Your reply is greatly appreciated. >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:33 am
Post subject: Re: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 15 Nov 2006 20:44:42 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
>at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
>out. They were much nicer, too!
>
>The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
>to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
>sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
>
>But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
>around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
>only when I need to.
>
>Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
>charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
>
>Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Awesome. Hopefully that will work out for you. If not and you don't
want the hassle of running the vehicle every day, you might consider a
battery disconnect switch (you'll lose all your radio & clock
settings, etc. each time it's used) or a trickle charger of some
sorts.
-- Christian >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:33 am
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On 15 Nov 2006 20:44:42 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
>at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
>out. They were much nicer, too!
>
>The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
>to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
>sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
>
>But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
>around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
>only when I need to.
>
>Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
>charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
>
>Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Awesome. Hopefully that will work out for you. If not and you don't
want the hassle of running the vehicle every day, you might consider a
battery disconnect switch (you'll lose all your radio & clock
settings, etc. each time it's used) or a trickle charger of some
sorts.
-- Christian >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:33 am
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On 15 Nov 2006 20:44:42 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Thanks, Christian. It turned out that all I had to do was to show up
>at Les Schwab with a big, nice man, and everything electrical checked
>out. They were much nicer, too!
>
>The car ran fine yesterday and today, and I'm leaving the car alarm off
>to see if it's draining the battery. It had been set to a ridiculous
>sensitivity level and the car alarm place reset it to a better level.
>
>But, sometimes the right stereo system in a passing car can wreak havoc
>around here. I think I'll get a fake led light, then use the system
>only when I need to.
>
>Otherwise, I'll make sure to run the car every day to make sure that it
>charges the battery. Whew! I'm glad it's not new alternator time.
>
>Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Awesome. Hopefully that will work out for you. If not and you don't
want the hassle of running the vehicle every day, you might consider a
battery disconnect switch (you'll lose all your radio & clock
settings, etc. each time it's used) or a trickle charger of some
sorts.
-- Christian >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:06 pm
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CMM wrote:
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> Awesome. Hopefully that will work out for you. If not and you don't
> want the hassle of running the vehicle every day, you might consider a
> battery disconnect switch (you'll lose all your radio & clock
> settings, etc. each time it's used) or a trickle charger of some
> sorts.
>
> -- Christian
I've been thinking of getting one of those jump-start chargie thingies.
So, here's the new question: What's a good make or model. Any pros
and cons? (If it weighs more than 20 pounds, forget it! >> Stay informed about: Help! It's the old battery vs alternator question again. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:02 am
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On 18 Nov 2006 15:06:23 -0800, "Ludmillia The Great"
<dthlln.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>I've been thinking of getting one of those jump-start chargie thingies.
> So, here's the new question: What's a good make or model. Any pros
>and cons? (If it weighs more than 20 pounds, forget it!
I've never used one. I imagine most any leading brand name would work.
I don't think they're too heavy.
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