Help with Tacoma Buying Dilemma

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Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> Based on the price quotes, what do you guys think?


Buy the one you like. <G>

BTW, if you do your own maintenance, look under the hood.
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There's a pretty good demand for your '02. I think you're throwing money
away by trading it. Sell it outright, then you'll have more to put into the
new truck. And more than enough extra to rent a car for a while if you need
it.
The Taco is a better truck. And once you remove the trade from the deal,
there's less chance for them to screw you. The Tacos will always be a tad
higher, cause there's more demand for them. If you go to Toyota.com, you can
see the trim and accessory packages and "design" your own truck. Then take
this printout to several dealers and ask them what their best price is. NO
negotiating, talk directly to a sales manager and tell him up front that you
are comparing dealers and he has one chance to get your business. Have fun!
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"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I'm about to trade in my old '92 on a 2008 Tacoma or a 2007 Frontier.
>
> The 08 Tacoma I want (2wd 4cyl 4A Access cab) is $17,990.
>
> The 07 Fronty I want (basically same) is $17,200.
>
>
> Here is the dilemma:
>
> I *slightly prefer the Taco, but I'm not in love with it, or any
> vehicle.
>
> The Fronty is a 2007, but has 4 wheel disc brakes, cruise control, and
> a 5 speed automatic. I'm thinking I can put the squeeze on them for an
> identical 2008 for maybe $500 more.
>
> I think it's a draw at the moment, but what do I know?
>
> I'm thinking that I will buy from the dealer that offers me the most
> for my old 92, which is low miles and in excellent shape.
>
> Based on the price quotes, what do you guys think?
>
> Many thanks,,,
>
> Bob A.


Your '92 is worthless to the dealership. It is far too old for them to want,
they'll give you a few hundred dollars for it, maybe a grand, but you could
get more for it if you parked it on the corner with a For Sale sign in the
window. The dealership will give you less than you can sell it for, and they
will turn around and send it to the auction (or Mexico), where it will end
up on the corner with a For Sale sign in the window asking what you would
ask if you were selling it yourself. Visit www.autotrader.com and see what
others are asking for the same truck as yours with an appropriate adjustment
for miles.

I think the money you are paying for the Toyota and the Nissan are
essentially the same, and the bottom line is comfort, ergonomics, and
styling. Buy the truck that you are most comfortable in and has knobs and
dials in places that make the most sense to you. You want to consider stuff
like seating position, thigh support, pedal placement, arm rests, etc. These
things lead to your physical comfort or the lack of it. Then, you want to
make sure the controls are logically placed and give you the range of
function you want -- you should want the Air Conditioner to be switched on
independently of where the air comes out of the various holes, for example
my Ford F150 always controls the air conditioner when I move the selector to
any position other than Vent or Floor; this is very annoying and if my Ford
did not have other desirable features, this would stop me from buying it.

The things that are important to you RIGHT NOW are your physical comfort and
the logical design of the stuff that you will be using. The price is no
longer important because you have narrowed your options to Toyota and Nissan
and the price they are asking for similar trucks is too close be a deciding
factor. You can melt any difference by telling the salesman at the last
possible moment, I really like this truck, but I like the other truck too
and it is $750 cheaper. Shave that $750 or I'm gonna walk across the
street -- then be prepared to do it. If you say that, and start heading for
the sidewalk, he'll shave the $750 to get the deal. He might try to tell you
why his truck is worth the extra $750, but all you have to do is walk, and
his truck is not any better at all and the price differential will melt
away.
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"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:04:23 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Your '92 is worthless to the dealership. It is far too old for them to
>>want,
>>they'll give you a few hundred dollars for it, maybe a grand, but you
>>could
>>get more for it if you parked it on the corner with a For Sale sign in the
>>window. The dealership will give you less than you can sell it for, and
>>they
>>will turn around and send it to the auction (or Mexico), where it will end
>>up on the corner with a For Sale sign in the window asking what you would
>>ask if you were selling it yourself. Visit www.autotrader.com and see what
>>others are asking for the same truck as yours with an appropriate
>>adjustment
>>for miles.
>>
>>I think the money you are paying for the Toyota and the Nissan are
>>essentially the same, and the bottom line is comfort, ergonomics, and
>>styling. Buy the truck that you are most comfortable in and has knobs and
>>dials in places that make the most sense to you. You want to consider
>>stuff
>>like seating position, thigh support, pedal placement, arm rests, etc.
>>These
>>things lead to your physical comfort or the lack of it. Then, you want to
>>make sure the controls are logically placed and give you the range of
>>function you want -- you should want the Air Conditioner to be switched on
>>independently of where the air comes out of the various holes, for example
>>my Ford F150 always controls the air conditioner when I move the selector
>>to
>>any position other than Vent or Floor; this is very annoying and if my
>>Ford
>>did not have other desirable features, this would stop me from buying it.
>>
>>The things that are important to you RIGHT NOW are your physical comfort
>>and
>>the logical design of the stuff that you will be using. The price is no
>>longer important because you have narrowed your options to Toyota and
>>Nissan
>>and the price they are asking for similar trucks is too close be a
>>deciding
>>factor. You can melt any difference by telling the salesman at the last
>>possible moment, I really like this truck, but I like the other truck too
>>and it is $750 cheaper. Shave that $750 or I'm gonna walk across the
>>street -- then be prepared to do it. If you say that, and start heading
>>for
>>the sidewalk, he'll shave the $750 to get the deal. He might try to tell
>>you
>>why his truck is worth the extra $750, but all you have to do is walk, and
>>his truck is not any better at all and the price differential will melt
>>away.
>
> Excellent, excellent points Jeff.
>
> It really is a tie between the 2 trucks according to the way I rate
> them.
>
> As I said, The Tacoma has less standard equipment for the same bucks.
> The Fronty has a 5 speed automatic, Tacoma a 4 speed. Frontier has 4
> wheel disc brakes, Tacoma 2 wheel discs. Fronty has cruise control,
> Tacoma doesn't.
>
> Problem is, the Frontier is a 2007. So I need opinions on a better
> equipped 2007 Fronty vs. a lesser equipped 2008 Tacoma.
>
> Jeff, I don't know what "worthless" is to a dealer, but the Nissan
> dealer gave me a range of $2500-$3000 for my old truck, which is
> within $500 of high retail. I got a straight up bid, then stuck the
> truck into the deal after the price was already negotiated.
>
> Thanks for the ideas!
> -
>
> Bob


Is the Nissan NEW -- never sold -- or previously owned? If new, what
difference does it make as to the year?
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