Headlight condensation

no I asked this question about 6 months age...someone answered with the same
problem..dealer paid half of cost cause they agreed shouldn't of happened
and was going after Honda to help cover the cost of repair...
"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
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> Did you have it inspected by a dealer when the problem started?
>
> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation inside.
>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be leaking?
>> Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>
>
>
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If I had that issue, I would definitely go to the dealer to see what Honda
could do about it. It might also be a simple fix that would be free of
charge.

"apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> no I asked this question about 6 months age...someone answered with the
> same problem..dealer paid half of cost cause they agreed shouldn't of
> happened and was going after Honda to help cover the cost of repair...
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> Did you have it inspected by a dealer when the problem started?
>>
>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation inside.
>>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be leaking?
>>> Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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"apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
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> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation inside.
> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be leaking?
> Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>
>


Had you replaced the headlight bulb at any point?

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no..my husband thinks it's all one piece..trying to figure it out ourselves
before getting dealer involved...It' out of warranty so I doubt they'll
agree to pay for it
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> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
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>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation inside.
>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be leaking?
>> Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>
>>
>
>
> Had you replaced the headlight bulb at any point?
>
> --
> Tegger
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 >> Stay informed about: Headlight condensation 

"apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in
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> "Tegger" <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>> @newsfe23.lga:
>>
>>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation
>>> inside.
>>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be
>>> leaking? Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Had you replaced the headlight bulb at any point?
>>
>>
>
> no..my husband thinks it's all one piece..trying to figure it out
> ourselves before getting dealer involved...It' out of warranty so I
> doubt they'll agree to pay for it



They won't pay for this.

And headamps these days all have separate bulbs, removable (often with
difficulty) from the rear of the assembly.

If the moisture's not getting in through a badly-sealed bulb O-ring, then
it's due to a failed seal between lens and reflector. To fix this you need
to remove the entire headlamp from the car, which is a highly non-trivial
operation involving removal of the entire front bumper.

Some people report success applying silicone caulk all around the
lens/reflector join. I prefer to drill a series of 1/16" or 3/32" holes in
the bottom of the plastic reflector, immediately behind the lens. These
holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
mounted part-way up the reflector.




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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:44:12 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger.RemoveThis@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

>"apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in
>news:QOK9k.8788$F97.1476@newsfe18.lga:
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>> "Tegger" <tegger.RemoveThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9ACBB557C81F1tegger@208.90.168.18...
>>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>>> @newsfe23.lga:
>>>
>>>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation
>>>> inside.
>>>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be
>>>> leaking? Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Had you replaced the headlight bulb at any point?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> no..my husband thinks it's all one piece..trying to figure it out
>> ourselves before getting dealer involved...It' out of warranty so I
>> doubt they'll agree to pay for it
>
>
>
>They won't pay for this.
>
>And headamps these days all have separate bulbs, removable (often with
>difficulty) from the rear of the assembly.
>
>If the moisture's not getting in through a badly-sealed bulb O-ring, then
>it's due to a failed seal between lens and reflector. To fix this you need
>to remove the entire headlamp from the car, which is a highly non-trivial
>operation involving removal of the entire front bumper.
>
>Some people report success applying silicone caulk all around the
>lens/reflector join. I prefer to drill a series of 1/16" or 3/32" holes in
>the bottom of the plastic reflector, immediately behind the lens. These
>holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
>mounted part-way up the reflector.
>


Agreed I don't think the dealer will pay for the cost of this. I know
that the 04 TSXs had this problem but Acura paid for the replacement
as there was a high number of people who were getting this problem.
Seals go bad and unfortunately the only true way to repair this is by
replacing the headlamp assembly. Make sure that you don't let a puddle
of water form on the inside of the lens or you can kiss you headlights
goodbye, and those Xeon bulbs are expensive to replace.

And as tegger says, it requires the removal of the front bumper so you
need to be mechanically inclined to do this. It isn't an impossible
job to do but you need to know what you are doing.
 >> Stay informed about: Headlight condensation 

"Tegger" <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in
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>> "Tegger" <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9ACBB557C81F1tegger@208.90.168.18...
>>> "apdicenzo" <apdicenzo.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in news:K1r9k.6618$Fj5.4522
>>> @newsfe23.lga:
>>>
>>>> i have a 2003 tl last year it started getting condensation
>>>> inside.
>>>> anyone have this problem? is there a seal that could be
>>>> leaking? Any help ? how did you fix the problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Had you replaced the headlight bulb at any point?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> no..my husband thinks it's all one piece..trying to figure it out
>> ourselves before getting dealer involved...It' out of warranty so I
>> doubt they'll agree to pay for it
>
>
>
> They won't pay for this.
>
> And headamps these days all have separate bulbs, removable (often with
> difficulty) from the rear of the assembly.
>
> If the moisture's not getting in through a badly-sealed bulb O-ring, then
> it's due to a failed seal between lens and reflector. To fix this you need
> to remove the entire headlamp from the car, which is a highly non-trivial
> operation involving removal of the entire front bumper.
>
Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the design of
the front ends.

> Some people report success applying silicone caulk all around the
> lens/reflector join. I prefer to drill a series of 1/16" or 3/32" holes in
> the bottom of the plastic reflector, immediately behind the lens. These
> holes allow better air flow than just the OEM drain/vent tube that's
> mounted part-way up the reflector.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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"tww1491" <twaugh5.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in
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>>
> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
> design of the front ends.



Yes.

In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took just four
bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the bumper was off.
Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold the skin to the rebar,
then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the body.

My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...




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Tegger <tegger RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> "tww1491" <twaugh5 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in
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>
>
>>>
>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>> design of the front ends.
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took just
> four bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the bumper
> was off. Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold the skin
> to the rebar, then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the body.
>
> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
>
>
>
>

you just need to remove the bumper COVER to get to the headlghts,I believe.

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"Tegger" <tegger RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "tww1491" <twaugh5 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in
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>
>>>
>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>> design of the front ends.
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took just
> four
> bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the bumper was off.
> Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold the skin to the
> rebar,
> then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the body.
>
> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
>
The 1965 Sunbeam Tiger I had some 40 + years ago came with a small monkey.
All kidding aside, it was a heck of lot easier to work on.

>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
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Jim Yanik <jyanik DeleteThis @abuse.gov> wrote in
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> Tegger <tegger DeleteThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in
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>> "tww1491" <twaugh5 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in
>> news:EOUak.11986$F97.1919@newsfe18.lga:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>>> design of the front ends.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took
>> just four bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the
>> bumper was off. Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold
>> the skin to the rebar, then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the
>> body.
>>
>> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> you just need to remove the bumper COVER to get to the headlghts,I
> believe.
>



The OP will need a genuine Honda shop manual to be sure, eh?
www.helminc.com

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I've had this problem before and I found a quick, if only temporary fix.

Undo (or not) the clip holding the wiring on to the
rear of the bulb connector. Then take the bulb out from the rear of the
assembly
which requires a half turn to get it out and set it aside
being careful not to touch it or let it touch anything.
( I rest it on a clean, lint free microfiber cloth)

Then take a hair dryer and blow warm air into the opening
which clears the condensation after a short while.

Obviously this is only a quick/temporary fix
but it works well on my 8 yr. old TL and I have
only had to do it twice since I bought it new.

Ron Marraccini



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> "Tegger" <tegger.TakeThisOut@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>> "tww1491" <twaugh5.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in
>> news:EOUak.11986$F97.1919@newsfe18.lga:
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>>
>>>>
>>> Is bumper removal pretty much standard with Hondas today given the
>>> design of the front ends.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> In fact, it's even harder than it used to be. At one time it took just
>> four
>> bolts accessed through the signal light apertures and the bumper was off.
>> Now it takes about a dozen other fasteners that hold the skin to the
>> rebar,
>> then the fasteners that hold the rebar to the body.
>>
>> My dad's '70 Ford was so much simpler...
>>
> The 1965 Sunbeam Tiger I had some 40 + years ago came with a small monkey.
> All kidding aside, it was a heck of lot easier to work on.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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