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"Björn Helgason" wrote in message


Now that GM has found the formula how to keep on producing cars
without needing to get the customers to pay there is no stopping them.
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I love it. This is a wonderful summary of the situation at GM.

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The Volt does not need to be overpriced so it will certainly be very
competitive.
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Since few people want an electric car of this ilk, it will be competitive
with other similar electric cars that nobody wants.
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"Canuck57" wrote in message

> On 25/02/2010 8:17 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>> What makes you think that? One will be able to buy a Volt, which is a
>> true
>> electric, for around the same price as a Prius which is smaller and still
>> uses outdated technology. Nether of which car be classified as a golf
>> cart.
>
> Just because it is newer does not mean it is better. Volt has a lower
> range at highways speeds. A step backwards.
>
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"Canuck57" wrote in message

> On 25/02/2010 2:41 AM, Björn Helgason wrote:
>> On 24 Feb, 23:19, "Mike Hunter" wrote:
>>> There are a half dozen manufacture selling true electric cars today.
>>> If
>>> you want one you can buy one today or you can wait till the fall for the
>>> Volt.
>>>
>>
>> I am sure that the Volt is going to change a lot of peoples minds
>> about hybrids and electrical vehicles.
>>
>> GM still has a lot of impact and this may well be a turning point for
>> GM.
>
> Or the crashing point.
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Not likely. Some huge problems.

First up is the worlds supply of lithium, the most likely candidate.
But des nto really mater, because to scale up will take tens of billions
of dollars and time, maybe decades. In the mean time prices for the raw
materials will skyrocket.

Next huge problen is that lithium in this quantity is a hazardious
substance. Seriously. Both from explosions and as a carcegenic posion.
Add a little water... Read the basic junior high periodic table:
http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/li.htm

Then you will have expensive recycling of the spent batteries to be
concerned about. You might have to pay $1000 to get rid of the old one.
Especially when the laws catch up with them.

Finally, having even just 5% of America plug in and charge the things is
going to upset the power grid. Still needs fuel, just you are getting
it on a power grid. Many cars, expect rationing and brown outs.

LMAO.. Going to cos tthe early adopers a lot of money.

Better off with a Tata Nano. And save $35,000 or more on the purchase.


On 25/02/2010 8:50 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> They will when the economies of scale kick in.
>
>
> "Björn Helgason" wrote in message
>
> On 25 Feb, 15:23, "Mike Hunter" wrote:
>> True electrics are years ahead of hybrids. GM currently has a least five
>> other types of vehicles that will be build off the basic Volt chassis,
>> including an Luxury SUV and a truck.
>>
>> True electrics cost much less to build and certify under the federal
>> regulations. For the buyers true electrics will cost much less to maintain
>> and will last much longer than conventionally powered vehicles as well
>>
>> "Bj rn Helgason" wrote in message
>>
>>
>> On 24 Feb, 23:19, "Mike Hunter" wrote:
>>
>>> There are a half dozen manufacture selling true electric cars today. If
>>> you want one you can buy one today or you can wait till the fall for the
>>> Volt.
>>
>> I am sure that the Volt is going to change a lot of peoples minds
>> about hybrids and electrical vehicles.
>>
>> GM still has a lot of impact and this may well be a turning point for
>> GM.
>
> It is true that true electrics cost much less to build and maintain
> but the problem still is the high cost of batteries and that is
> basically what is holding the electrics back and has been over the
> years.
>
> The costs of the batteries are coming down and they are getting better
> but they are not there yet.
>
>
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On 26/02/2010 9:05 AM, Björn Helgason wrote:
> On 26 Feb, 14:05, Canuck57 wrote:
>> On 25/02/2010 2:41 AM, Bj rn Helgason wrote:
>>
>>> On 24 Feb, 23:19, "Mike Hunter" wrote:
>>>> There are a half dozen manufacture selling true electric cars today. If
>>>> you want one you can buy one today or you can wait till the fall for the
>>>> Volt.
>>
>>> I am sure that the Volt is going to change a lot of peoples minds
>>> about hybrids and electrical vehicles.
>>
>>> GM still has a lot of impact and this may well be a turning point for
>>> GM.
>>
>> Or the crashing point. So what if Volt goes south, then GM going to
>> pick our pockets for more?
>>
>> GM tarnished it's image and isn't working hard or fast enough. But then
>> it was never about fixing GM, it was about bailouts, shifting debt to
>> the taxpayers.
>>
>> It will catch up to GM....
>
> It is good for america to have a powerful and rich people who make
> cars.
> If the customers can not pay enough then it is necessary to get
> taxpayers money to support it.

Zero sum game, governments ahs to collect the money sooner or later from
the people, with interest. You must be a marxist. Why should you pay
for your neighbors car?

But with added waste and governemnt corruption, people will just give up
buying them at all.

> GM has good experience of using taxpayers money to line the pockets of
> the managers.

Agreed. Corrupt bunch of bastards.

> There have been some casualties along the way but they got a very good
> golden parachute so they do not suffer much.

Yep, GM lamers on the lamb. Sucking from other working Americans like
leachs.

> Now that GM has found the formula how to keep on producing cars
> without needing to get the customers to pay there is no stopping them.
> The Volt does not need to be overpriced so it will certainly be very
> competitive.

There is. If everyone refused to buy a GM going forward, it would not
be long before governemtn would have to close the socialist Government
Motors. We do vote with our money.
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"Canuck57" wrote in message

>
> Not likely. Some huge problems.
>
> First up is the worlds supply of lithium, the most likely candidate. But
> des nto really mater, because to scale up will take tens of billions of
> dollars and time, maybe decades. In the mean time prices for the raw
> materials will skyrocket.
>
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"Canuck57" wrote in message


>
>>
> There is. If everyone refused to buy a GM going forward, it would not be
> long before governemtn would have to close the socialist Government
> Motors. We do vote with our money.
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