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Jamie Mello

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:20 am
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I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:34 pm
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NO,, its not true.. it was proved on myth busters that you get better gas
milage with the tail-gate up.. there was a college that did a drag test as
well and found the same results.. tail-gate down = more vehicle drag.. more
drag = less gas milage..

troy

"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
> gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:34 pm
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boy this is one sure myth that never goes away!

"Troy" <tntroy1nospam RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message news:ArGdndcxIfF6uc7anZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@comcast.com...
: NO,, its not true.. it was proved on myth busters that you get better gas
: milage with the tail-gate up.. there was a college that did a drag test as
: well and found the same results.. tail-gate down = more vehicle drag.. more
: drag = less gas milage..
:
: troy
:
: "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
: news:8598515f-a4aa-4833-ad01-f7102f972fac@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
: >I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
: > gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie
:
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:38 pm
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In article <f8G4j.119$Fn6.79@newsfe14.phx>, qwerty.DeleteThis@cox.com says...
> boy this is one sure myth that never goes away!

They also showed that driving with the Windows Down and the AC off
provides better MPG than with them up and the AC on.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:54 pm
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"Leythos" <void.TakeThisOut@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.21bcfddfc58a9b9d989865@Adfree.usenet.com...
: In article <f8G4j.119$Fn6.79@newsfe14.phx>, qwerty.TakeThisOut@cox.com says...
: > boy this is one sure myth that never goes away!
:
: They also showed that driving with the Windows Down and the AC off
: provides better MPG than with them up and the AC on.
:


Never investigated that one. But who gives a fluck. I don't want exhaust dirt and our 115 degree summers infecting my commute.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:43 pm
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:20:32 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
<carkeyscc DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
>gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie

Wind tunnel tests with the tailgate up show that a slug of air sits in
the bed without much motion or air exchange. This causes any wind to
skim the surface of the slug that has a very low drag factor. Putting
the tailgate down causes the wind to come into contact with the bed's
sides and floor, along with the tailgate, a higher drag factor than
the slug of air has.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:07 am
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"Fuller Rath" <qwerty.TakeThisOut@cox.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Leythos" <void.TakeThisOut@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.21bcfddfc58a9b9d989865@Adfree.usenet.com...
> : In article <f8G4j.119$Fn6.79@newsfe14.phx>, qwerty.TakeThisOut@cox.com says...
> : > boy this is one sure myth that never goes away!
> :
> : They also showed that driving with the Windows Down and the AC off
> : provides better MPG than with them up and the AC on.

The firs time the "mythbusters" investigated this "myth," it was one of the
worst run experiments they ever did,. They drove two Expeditions in circles
on a short oval race track (1/4 mile?). They kept the speeds low (45 or 50)
becasue they were afraid of overheating the tires. They used two different
Expedition, neither one of which was broken in. In my opinion the results
were worthless. And I think the "Mythbuster" realized this, since they
re-invertigated the myth. The second invertigation was a little better,
although they still didn't drive as fast as I thought they should. The
second invertigation yielded more sensible results - at slow speeds you
achieve better gas mileage with the windows down and A/C off. At higher
speeds, windows up, A/C on was better. In the real world it is much more
complicated. I think we could all agree that windows up / AC off is the most
efficient method but leaving the car at home is even more fuel efficient.

Ed
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:28 am
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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|
| "Fuller Rath" <qwerty RemoveThis @cox.com> wrote in message
| news:_jJ4j.54$1C4.43@newsfe10.phx...
| >
| > "Leythos" <void RemoveThis @nowhere.lan> wrote in message
| > news:MPG.21bcfddfc58a9b9d989865@Adfree.usenet.com...
| > : In article <f8G4j.119$Fn6.79@newsfe14.phx>, qwerty RemoveThis @cox.com says...
| > : > boy this is one sure myth that never goes away!
| > :
| > : They also showed that driving with the Windows Down and the AC off
| > : provides better MPG than with them up and the AC on.
|
| The firs time the "mythbusters" investigated this "myth," it was one
of the
| worst run experiments they ever did,. They drove two Expeditions in
circles
| on a short oval race track (1/4 mile?). They kept the speeds low (45
or 50)
| becasue they were afraid of overheating the tires. They used two
different
| Expedition, neither one of which was broken in. In my opinion the
results
| were worthless. And I think the "Mythbuster" realized this, since they
| re-invertigated the myth. The second invertigation was a little
better,
| although they still didn't drive as fast as I thought they should. The
| second invertigation yielded more sensible results - at slow speeds
you
| achieve better gas mileage with the windows down and A/C off. At
higher
| speeds, windows up, A/C on was better. In the real world it is much
more
| complicated. I think we could all agree that windows up / AC off is
the most
| efficient method but leaving the car at home is even more fuel
efficient.
|
| Ed

A college study, which I can no longer find, found that the most
efficient truck was with a shell that was cab height but curved in the
back down to the top of the tailgate. It smoothed out the airflow
behind the truck according to their wind tunnel tests.

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Fuller Rath

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:05 pm
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Yeah Mythbusters isn't the last authority on anything... I think they need to find a real job. As for gas mileage, if people want
to save some $ another option would be to drive at a reasonable speed on the freeways. I doubt if 85+ mph speeds are conducive to
good gas mileage....


:
: The firs time the "mythbusters" investigated this "myth," it was one of the
: worst run experiments they ever did,. They drove two Expeditions in circles
: on a short oval race track (1/4 mile?). They kept the speeds low (45 or 50)
: becasue they were afraid of overheating the tires. They used two different
: Expedition, neither one of which was broken in. In my opinion the results
: were worthless. And I think the "Mythbuster" realized this, since they
: re-invertigated the myth. The second invertigation was a little better,
: although they still didn't drive as fast as I thought they should. The
: second invertigation yielded more sensible results - at slow speeds you
: achieve better gas mileage with the windows down and A/C off. At higher
: speeds, windows up, A/C on was better. In the real world it is much more
: complicated. I think we could all agree that windows up / AC off is the most
: efficient method but leaving the car at home is even more fuel efficient.
:
: Ed
:
:
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:59 am
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Fuller Rath wrote:
> Yeah Mythbusters isn't the last authority on anything... I think they need to find a real job.

They have a real job, as excellent entertainers. <G>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:00 pm
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point made. as long as they are regarded as such and not authorities on any topic


"B A R R Y" <beech23pilot.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Mec5j.4588$fl7.2778@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
: Fuller Rath wrote:
: > Yeah Mythbusters isn't the last authority on anything... I think they need to find a real job.
:
: They have a real job, as excellent entertainers. <G>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:31 pm
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nope, mythbusters proved that it doesn't make much difference what ya do.
up, down, replaced by net, etc...
"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
> gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:34 am
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I run mine with a tonneau cover and get beter than the estimates.
"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have herd that driving with your tailgate down will give you better
> gas mileage. Is this true?? Thanks Jamie
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:51 pm
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:10:16 -0700, "Fuller Rath" <qwerty.DeleteThis@cox.com>
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>and they get paid to do it

I'm so jealous!
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